PakPatriot1
Senator (1k+ posts)
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McUvRHfzAJU[/video]
Altaf Hussain was wrong - Where?
- Thread starter PakPatriot1
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no he was not wrong anywhere i ve watched his interview twice....what he says is totally true but the ancors thinking about peoples republic of pakistan is bullshit...we can show the world that we are muslims living in Islamic rebublich of pakistan and we can save and live with our minorities peacefully.
Alsadeeqalameen
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: MQM haters ka phr Muu kala
Altaf Hussein ka bih muu **** ha ****** nahi ha.
Altaf Hussein ka bih muu **** ha ****** nahi ha.
such bolo
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I would just advice all of you to listen altaf husein carefully from 2:24 till 04:25 in the following clip... I am not here to call Altaf Husein Ahmedi.. but just listen how impresed he is with qadyanis.....and what actually he wants for Qadyanis....
Here is the transcription of his interview for your further comments:
Luqman:
Hamara 73 ka aain tu kehta hai k aqliyaton ko apna mazhab preach kerney ki ijaazet honee chahiye tu kiya phir Jamat Ahmediya ko bhi ye ijazat honee chahiye?
Altaf Husein:
Bilkul honee chahiye. Meree nazer mien honee chahiye. Her kisi ko honee chahiye.
Luqman:
Thats a very bold statement
Altaf:
Her kisi ko honee chahiye. tu fascisam ka ilzam mujh pe nahi lagey ga tu kis pe lagega???... acha phir aisey hee nahi keh raha. aisey hee nahi keh raha... mien ne ahmediyo ka litreture bhi perha hai.. mien ne ahmadiyo k programs bhi dekhey.. mien ne dekha wohee kalma hai inka... wohee aap (sallal laahu alahi wasallam) ko akhree nabi maantey hie woh... ab jhagra jo aata hai os ki behes mien nahi jaana chahta... is ko jo nahi maney naa maaney... aap inko musalman nahi maantey na nahi maaney... jo hindu hai os ka bhi apna Allah Rasool hai...os ko tu aap tasleem kertey hien tu Ahmediyo ko bhi tasleem kijiye........yeh jurret pakistan mien kisi mien nahi hai... ahmediyo pe zulam nahi hona chahiye. woh insaan hien pakistani hien...
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk7yRdOnI4[/video]
Here is the transcription of his interview for your further comments:
Luqman:
Hamara 73 ka aain tu kehta hai k aqliyaton ko apna mazhab preach kerney ki ijaazet honee chahiye tu kiya phir Jamat Ahmediya ko bhi ye ijazat honee chahiye?
Altaf Husein:
Bilkul honee chahiye. Meree nazer mien honee chahiye. Her kisi ko honee chahiye.
Luqman:
Thats a very bold statement
Altaf:
Her kisi ko honee chahiye. tu fascisam ka ilzam mujh pe nahi lagey ga tu kis pe lagega???... acha phir aisey hee nahi keh raha. aisey hee nahi keh raha... mien ne ahmediyo ka litreture bhi perha hai.. mien ne ahmadiyo k programs bhi dekhey.. mien ne dekha wohee kalma hai inka... wohee aap (sallal laahu alahi wasallam) ko akhree nabi maantey hie woh... ab jhagra jo aata hai os ki behes mien nahi jaana chahta... is ko jo nahi maney naa maaney... aap inko musalman nahi maantey na nahi maaney... jo hindu hai os ka bhi apna Allah Rasool hai...os ko tu aap tasleem kertey hien tu Ahmediyo ko bhi tasleem kijiye........yeh jurret pakistan mien kisi mien nahi hai... ahmediyo pe zulam nahi hona chahiye. woh insaan hien pakistani hien...
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bk7yRdOnI4[/video]
PakPatriot1
Senator (1k+ posts)
[/quote]such bolo said:
1-If you believe that Qadyanis are non believers of Hazrat Muhammed (PBUH) as a last prophet and if Altaf Hussain says that a non believer of Hazrat Muhammed (PBUH) can not be a Muslim then it is clear enough that he thinks Qadyanis are Kafirs and non-muslims.
2- What Qadyanis are not getting and Altaf Hussain is worried about is exactly what all ulema are saying now that Qadyanis are non muslims and are minorities in Pakistan, and they should be given all minority's rights in Pakistan. All Ulema and also constitution of Pakistan are endorsing Altaf Hussain's stand point.
3- If you need special treatment for Qadyanis, you need to amend the constitution of Pakistan. You have to include a clause that will say that Qadyanis are special kind of minority and they need to be expelled from Pakistan. But until that amendment is done, Pakistani estate has to give them full rights of minorities.
I think you should be satisfied now, but for that you need to set aside your hate for MQM and Altaf Hussain. It seems difficult for you, right?
Muttahaida
Councller (250+ posts)
munafiqo or intishar pehlanay walo per allah ki lanat wo log jo altaf bhai kai biyan ko jhota banaker paish kerraahay tha un per bhi lanat jeye altaf bhai jeye sada jeye and plzzzz dun talk shir about altaf bhai u have a right to criticize but dun get personal i dunno how ur elders look like
Agar reaction kuch na hota ya acha hota Altaf Hussain k first interview ka then Altaf hussain nay kabhie b yeh deniel statments nahin deni thi, lakin becharay ko kiya pata tha k woh biyan galay per jai and phir sub Molvi's ko ifftari per bula ker un ko convince ker rha hai, Banda aisa kaam karay hi nahin jis ki baad main wazahatain deni parain. Sada jiay Altaf Hussain takay aisi foolish statments deta rahay jo Lucman k sath interview main di thi.
MQM was created by the miliitary dictators to divide and uphold the corrupt system and they are still success in their aim due to the negative attitude of the foolish peopes of karachi who support MQM.
In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:
- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organise a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centres particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).
- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centres and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.
- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. they financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.
- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organise to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centres. They worked on different peoples to creates that group and many seasonal and patriotic urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic urdu speaking party. The first training of these group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning pakistan flag.
- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organisation. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.
_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in karachi and hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.
- as far as the so-called operation against MQM by the establishment is concerned it is on the record that there were a fight in between the MQM on the distribution of the "BHatta" and Altaf want to get rid of some of them. He with the collobration with establishment launched operation against him opponent and left Pakistan just before the operation direct from the Abbasi Hospital as per his planning of the operation. From that day he never visited back on the instruction of the establishment and the foreign powers who want him to be alive to achieve their objectives.
- most of the poor peoples are now the hostages of the brutal force of MQM and they live like slaves there. From the creation till now the real face of MQM is exposed to everyone and no sincere element in the county support them.
- as far the murders of the peoples in the operation 1992 against MQM is concerned, it is noted that they never launched any FIR or conducted any enquiry for that while they were and are in the government all the times. It is enough to establish that the operation 1992 was carried out by the establishment and ALtaf together.
In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:
- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organise a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centres particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).
- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centres and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.
- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. they financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.
- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organise to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centres. They worked on different peoples to creates that group and many seasonal and patriotic urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic urdu speaking party. The first training of these group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning pakistan flag.
- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organisation. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.
_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in karachi and hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.
- as far as the so-called operation against MQM by the establishment is concerned it is on the record that there were a fight in between the MQM on the distribution of the "BHatta" and Altaf want to get rid of some of them. He with the collobration with establishment launched operation against him opponent and left Pakistan just before the operation direct from the Abbasi Hospital as per his planning of the operation. From that day he never visited back on the instruction of the establishment and the foreign powers who want him to be alive to achieve their objectives.
- most of the poor peoples are now the hostages of the brutal force of MQM and they live like slaves there. From the creation till now the real face of MQM is exposed to everyone and no sincere element in the county support them.
- as far the murders of the peoples in the operation 1992 against MQM is concerned, it is noted that they never launched any FIR or conducted any enquiry for that while they were and are in the government all the times. It is enough to establish that the operation 1992 was carried out by the establishment and ALtaf together.
