Afghan Hezb-e-Islami 'may join Islamic State

Freemedia

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Fighters from a militant Islamic group in Afghanistan, allied to the Taliban, have told the BBC they are considering joining forces with Islamic State (IS).
Their commander also said they would still fight the Afghan government, even after Nato forces left in 2014.
Commander Mirwais said that if IS, which he called by its Arabic acronym Daish, proved a true Islamic caliphate, they would link up with it.
The news comes amid an ongoing row over Afghanistan's presidential poll.
The June election remains disputed, with no declared winner, while an audit of votes is taking place.
'Great mujahideen' "We know Daish and we have links with some Daish members. We are waiting to see if they meet the requirements for an Islamic caliphate," Commander Mirwais said.
"If we find they do, we are sure that our leadership will announce their allegiance to them. They are great mujahideen. We pray for them, and if we don't see a problem in the way they operate, we will join them."
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Islamic State has gained a reputation for brutal rule in the areas that it controls
The threat is a disturbing one. If the Taliban do link up with IS, it would add an entirely new dimension to the struggle.
Across Afghanistan, there are currently 14 different front lines where the Taliban are fighting government forces.
One of them is around Pul-e-Khumri, the capital of Baghlan province in northern Afghanistan. It is less than 200km (120 miles) from Kabul, but it takes seven hours to drive there, across the mountains and through the Salang Pass.
The roads are often atrocious thanks to the web of local corruption, despite the huge amounts of Western money that have been lavished on them.
Through an intermediary, we had made contact with Commander Mirais, whose group is fighting on the outskirts of Pul-e-Khumri.
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Much of Baghlan province is mountainous and remote, making travel to Pul-e-Khumri a time-consuming task
Commander Mirwais has moved from group to group in the past, but now he belongs to Hezb-e-Islami, a group with a good deal of blood on its hands.
Over the years, Hezb-e-Islami has become famous for its ferocity, which has sometimes alienated even the Taliban themselves.
Among Western journalists, the group has had a bad reputation ever since the 1980s, when it invited a freelance cameraman working for the BBC to join one of its operations, then killed him during the night in order to sell his equipment.
Now, though, a reliable intermediary told us that Commander Mirwais would meet us and would guarantee our safety. We decided that we could trust these assurances - and it turned out that we were right.
For a front-line town, Pul-e-Khumri is prosperous and reasonably secure. Local people can hear the shooting at night time, and they know that the Taliban are present on three sides of them.
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Pul-e-Khumri is a bustling agricultural centre but there is also an air of nervousness
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The city, a target for Taliban fighters, has seen several gun and bomb attacks
But the shops are full of goods, the streets are thronged with people, and the tea houses and kebab shops are doing good business.
We established ourselves in a small upstairs hotel in one of the main streets. It was uncomfortable and not overly clean, but it was run by a relative of our driver, which meant we were safe there.
In the end our Afghan cameraman had to go and see Commander Mirwais on his own.
At the appointed spot on a side road off the main northbound road out of Pul-e-Khumri, the commander emerged from the darkness, accompanied by a group of heavily armed bodyguards.
He turned out to be a rational figure, frank about his ideas and aims. But they were uncomfortable to Western ears.
"Our struggle was mainly against the Americans, and thank God they were forced to run away. But we will continue to fight until we establish an Islamic state," he said.
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Commander Mirwais says his group receives weapons from Afghan security forces
"Our operations are mostly guerrilla-style these days. The Kabul government is very weak now, like the Najibullah government after the Soviet withdrawal in 1989. We concentrate on explosions and targeted killings and ambushes.
"The government has no control beyond the tarmac roads. They can't go into the villages without massive force."
There was no suggestion from him, therefore, that once the Western troops have withdrawn, the Taliban and their allies would come to an agreement with the government in Kabul. Nothing short of an Islamic state run along Sharia lines will satisfy them, it seems.

Former Afghan National Security Adviser Amrullah Saleh: 'Surrender is not an option'

A leading politician and intelligence expert in Kabul, Amrullah Saleh, dismisses the idea that the Taliban and their extremist allies could take power in Afghanistan. He maintains that politics and society there have changed too greatly for that to be possible.
Yet there is no doubt that the Taliban do present a serious challenge to the Kabul government. Especially if they link up with the ultra-Islamists of IS in Iraq and Syria.
Afghanistan, surrounded by its mountains and deserts, has always been deeply cut off from the outside world. Now, for the first time, its insurgents are considering making common cause with groups far from their borders.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29009125
 

AbuDujana

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IRAN days are Numbered InshAllah now.Saudi US and Iran are in one trench against Islamic State.

Chalo ACHAY TALIBAN aur BURAY TALIBAN ka dhoool bajany walay ab Sab taliban ko KHAWARIJ TAKFIRI TERRORIST kahna shuro kar dain gay.


Zaid Hamid ko koi yeh News dikhaaaay plzz Jaldi.
 
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AbuDujana

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Afghan Islamic militants linked to Taliban could ‘announce allegiance’ to Isis

Militant Islamic fighters in Afghanistan who are linked to the Taliban have said they would join forces with Isis, should it manage to create an Islamic caliphate.

Commander Mirwais, who belongs to the Afghani militant group Hezb-e-Islami, told the BBC that the group “will continue to fight until we establish an Islamic state”.


He called Isis by their Arabic name, Daish, stating this Hezb-e-Islami has links with some of its members. “We are waiting to see if they meet the requirements for an Islamic caliphate,” he said.


“If we find that they do, we are sure that our leadership will announce their allegiance to them. They are great mujahideen. We pray for them, and if we don’t see a problem in the way they operate, we will join them,” Mirwais added.


BBC world affairs editor John Simpson and his team made contact with Mirwais, whose group is currently fighting on the outskirts of Pul-e-Khumri, through an intermediary.


The group which Mirwais belongs to is known for its ferocity and its actions have reportedly alienated the Taliban at times.


Mirwais implied that once Western troops have left Afghanistan that the Taliban and its affiliated groups will not negotiate with the government in Kabul.


"Our struggle was mainly against the Americans, and thank God they were forced to run away. But we will continue to fight until we establish an Islamic state," he said.

"Our operations are mostly guerrilla-style these days. The Kabul government is very weak now, like the Najibullah government after the Soviet withdrawal in 1989. We concentrate on explosions and targeted killings and ambushes.

"The government has no control beyond the tarmac roads. They can't go into the villages without massive force."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ould-announce-allegiance-to-isis-9706580.html
 

اداس ساحل

MPA (400+ posts)
اگر حزب اسلامی اور طالبان اپنی وفاداریاں بدل رہے ہیں تو ملا عمر کی خلافت کا کیا ہوگا؟ ایک نیام میں دو تلواریں کیسے رہیں گی
 

AbuDujana

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اگر حزب اسلامی اور طالبان اپنی وفاداریاں بدل رہے ہیں تو ملا عمر کی خلافت کا کیا ہوگا؟ ایک نیام میں دو تلواریں کیسے رہیں گی

MULLAH Umer nay na Khilafat declare ki thi na hi Mullah Umer Khalifah hain woh Afghanistan kay Islami Emirate kay Ameer hain.
 

Freemedia

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
MULLAH Umer nay na Khilafat declare ki thi na hi Mullah Umer Khalifah hain woh Afghanistan kay Islami Emirate kay Ameer hain.

کفر کے اجنٹوں کو جاہل ہی رہنے دو ان کو خلافت اور امارت کا فرق بھی نہیں معلوم
 

اداس ساحل

MPA (400+ posts)
کفر کے اجنٹوں کو جاہل ہی رہنے دو ان کو خلافت اور امارت کا فرق بھی نہیں معلوم

اگر یہی رویــّہ نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم کا ہوتا تو کعبہ میں آج بھی تین سو بت ہوتے ۔ تم نے اپنی سوچ کی غمازی کر دی ہے اب کوئی حجت باقی نہیں رہتی ۔ جو چراغ لے کر دنیا کو روشن کرنے چلے ہیں ان کی اپنی ناک تلے اندھیرا دیکھو
 

اداس ساحل

MPA (400+ posts)
MULLAH Umer nay na Khilafat declare ki thi na hi Mullah Umer Khalifah hain woh Afghanistan kay Islami Emirate kay Ameer hain.

کیا اسلامی تاریخ میں امیر المومنین کا لقب صرف خلفاء کے لئے استعمال نہیں ہوا؟
کیا ملا عمر ، البغدادی کے ہاتھ پر بیعت کرلیں گے ؟
 

AbuDujana

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کیا اسلامی تاریخ میں امیر المومنین کا لقب صرف خلفاء کے لئے استعمال نہیں ہوا؟
کیا ملا عمر ، البغدادی کے ہاتھ پر بیعت کرلیں گے ؟

kuch loog ko Ameer Al Momineen King Abdullah aur nawaz shareef ko bhi kahnay say na rahay.

Ap Afghanistan ki Soviet time say laykar abhi tak ki tamamm khabrain parh lain Kabhi bhi Mullah Umer R.H ko kisi nay bhi KHALIFAH na kaha na kisi nay claim kia haaan lakin afghanistan main Mullah Umer Islamic emirate kay ameer hain.

Mullah Umer ka latest Eid Message parh lain jis main Unho nay saff saff kaha hay k un ki struggle sirf afghanistan say ghair mulki dushmano say hay Un ka koi international agenda nahi.
 

اداس ساحل

MPA (400+ posts)
Mullah Umer ka latest Eid Message parh lain jis main Unho nay saff saff kaha hay k un ki struggle sirf afghanistan say ghair mulki dushmano say hay Un ka koi international agenda nahi.

تو پھر آپ مجاہد بھائیوں کے اپنے نقطہ نظر کے مطابق، ملا عمر کی جدوجہد نیشنلسٹ اور وطن پرستی پر مبنی ہے اور وطن پرستی آپ کے بقول اسلام میں حرام ہے ۔
 

AbuDujana

Banned
تو پھر آپ مجاہد بھائیوں کے اپنے نقطہ نظر کے مطابق، ملا عمر کی جدوجہد نیشنلسٹ اور وطن پرستی پر مبنی ہے اور وطن پرستی آپ کے بقول اسلام میں حرام ہے ۔
Qoh afghanistan main SHARIAT ki khatir lar rahay hain is liyeh ap issey WATANIYAT ki larai nahi kah saktey.
 

Rooh-e-Safar

Senator (1k+ posts)
تو پھر آپ مجاہد بھائیوں کے اپنے نقطہ نظر کے مطابق، ملا عمر کی جدوجہد نیشنلسٹ اور وطن پرستی پر مبنی ہے اور وطن پرستی آپ کے بقول اسلام میں حرام ہے ۔
Nahi.. Mullah Omar ka pehla focus USA ko kick-out ker k Shariat implement kerna hey.. baqi us k baad k haalaat k mutabiq. Watan parsti tu us waqt hoti jab woh watan k naam per sharia k against hathyar uthate
 

اداس ساحل

MPA (400+ posts)
Nahi.. Mullah Omar ka pehla focus USA ko kick-out ker k Shariat implement kerna hey.. baqi us k baad k haalaat k mutabiq. Watan parsti tu us waqt hoti jab woh watan k naam per sharia k against hathyar uthate

Qoh afghanistan main SHARIAT ki khatir lar rahay hain is liyeh ap issey WATANIYAT ki larai nahi kah saktey.

غیر ملکی فوجی تو ایک دن چلے جائیں گے
رہی بات شریعت کی تو افغانستان کا آئین پہلے ہی اسلامی ہے مگر ملا عمر کے لئے اس لئے قابل قبول نہیں کیونکہ یہ آئین انہیں حکومت طشتری میں رکھ کر نہیں دیتا ۔
کیا اسلام کی رو سے کوئی امیر لوگوں کی مرضی کے بغیر حکومت کرسکتا ہے؟ اور اگر نہیں تو ملا عمر رائے شماری کی خلاف کیوں ہیں؟

 

AbuDujana

Banned

غیر ملکی فوجی تو ایک دن چلے جائیں گے
رہی بات شریعت کی تو افغانستان کا آئین پہلے ہی اسلامی ہے مگر ملا عمر کے لئے اس لئے قابل قبول نہیں کیونکہ یہ آئین انہیں حکومت طشتری میں رکھ کر نہیں دیتا ۔
کیا اسلام کی رو سے کوئی امیر لوگوں کی مرضی کے بغیر حکومت کرسکتا ہے؟ اور اگر نہیں تو ملا عمر رائے شماری کی خلاف کیوں ہیں؟


Afghanistan ka constitution shahid ap kay nazdeek Islamic nazar atta hoo lakin Islamic Law kay Mutabic is waqt Afghanistan ki Hakoomat aur Fauj MURTAD hay q k woh Musalmano k Moqablay main is waqt KAFIRON ki madad kara rahy hain jin ki hi wajha say woh is waqt Govt aur Fauj main hain.
 

khan27

Minister (2k+ posts)
Afghanistan ka constitution shahid ap kay nazdeek Islamic nazar atta hoo lakin Islamic Law kay Mutabic is waqt Afghanistan ki Hakoomat aur Fauj MURTAD hay q k woh Musalmano k Moqablay main is waqt KAFIRON ki madad kara rahy hain jin ki hi wajha say woh is waqt Govt aur Fauj main hain.

tum tu takfiri hi ho tumhe tu wajib ul qatal karar de dena chahe
 

AbuDujana

Banned
tum tu takfiri hi ho tumhe tu wajib ul qatal karar de dena chahe

yeh main nahi yeh ALLAH SWT ki nazil karda Qurani Ayat kahti hay.ab tum agar Quran ki Ayat ka inkar kar kay KUFR karna chahtey ho to tumhari marzi.

"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. (The Noble Quran, 5:51)"

"O ye who believe! Take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport - whether among those who received the Scripture (i.e., the Bible) before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have Faith (indeed). (The Noble Quran, 5:57)"

"Yea, to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay,- all honour is with God. (The Noble Quran, 4:139)"

"O ye who believe! Turn not (for friendship) To people on whom Is the Wrath of Allah. Of the Hereafter they are Already in despair, just as The Unbelievers are In despair about those (Buried) in graves. (The Noble Quran, 60:13)"
 

khan27

Minister (2k+ posts)
yeh main nahi yeh ALLAH SWT ki nazil karda Qurani Ayat kahti hay.ab tum agar Quran ki Ayat ka inkar kar kay KUFR karna chahtey ho to tumhari marzi.

"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. (The Noble Quran, 5:51)"

"O ye who believe! Take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport - whether among those who received the Scripture (i.e., the Bible) before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have Faith (indeed). (The Noble Quran, 5:57)"

"Yea, to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay,- all honour is with God. (The Noble Quran, 4:139)"

"O ye who believe! Turn not (for friendship) To people on whom Is the Wrath of Allah. Of the Hereafter they are Already in despair, just as The Unbelievers are In despair about those (Buried) in graves. (The Noble Quran, 60:13)"

kis gande mun se ALLAH ka naam lete ho
 

allahkebande

Minister (2k+ posts)
MULLAH Umer nay na Khilafat declare ki thi na hi Mullah Umer Khalifah hain woh Afghanistan kay Islami Emirate kay Ameer hain.

کفر کے اجنٹوں کو جاہل ہی رہنے دو ان کو خلافت اور امارت کا فرق بھی نہیں معلوم

طالبان نے افغانستان پر چار سال سے زیادہ حکومت کی ۔ اگر مملکت کو صحیح طریقے سے چلایا ہوتا تو آج افغانستان میں جنگ ہی نا ہوتی ۔ امارت اسلامیہ کا افغانستان چار سال میں بھی کھنڈر کا کھنڈر رہا ۔ کوئی ترقیاتی کام نہیں ہوا ۔ طالبان اگر چار سال میں افغانوں کو کچھ نہ دے سکے تو مستقبل میں کیسے دیں گے؟ کیا شریعت سے لوگوں کے پیٹ بھر جاتے ہیں؟
حضرت علی رضی اللہ عنہا نے کیا کہا تھا کہ غربت کفر کی طرف لے جاتی ہے ۔ غربت اور افلاس کے معاشرے میں اسلام رائج ہو ہی نہیں سکتا ۔ کیا ملا عمر حضرت علی رضی اللہ عنہا سے بہتر اسلام کو سمھجتے ہیں جو غربت کے خاتمے سے پہلے شریعت نافذ کرنے چلے ہیں ؟
طالبان کی چار سالہ حکومت میں جب کوئی ترقی نہیں ہوئی تو آگے کون سی دودھ کی نہریں بہیں گی