Action Plan: What the army should do after recent attacks in Pakistan and the mass murder in Sehwan

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Perception of the international community:

Perception is very important in international politics and it can be used to make a positive or negative image in the minds of people all over the world. It can also decide the outcome of wars and sanctions, for example low support for Vietnam war caused Americas defeat, even though America was winning militarily. Similarly the war in Iraq ended sooner than the war in Afghanistan possibly due to negative perception of the international community over the former.

Since 9/11 Pakistans perception has fallen and people associate the country with terrorism, this works in favour of India which wants to isolate Pakistan and build a negative perception about the country as a terrorist state. Since 2009 and Pakistans Armed Forces operations against terrorist groups the perception of Pakistan has been changing to more positive. The more attacks the terrorists do in Pakistan, the more sympathy the international community will have for the country. After the attacks in Sehwan by ISIS, Pakistans image and perception as an ally in war on terror is very high and Pakistan should capitalize on this.

ISIS has the worst perception in people's minds. It is no doubt the most hated organization of the 21st century. Any country that will fight against ISIS will become an instant hero in the international community and their image will be greatly boosted. An example is the Kurds, who have gained support of many countries because of its stand against ISIS.


  1. Pakistan should cooperate, coordinate and negotiate with the US to send troops into Afghanistan border areas where ISIS exists. SSG commandos can be sent into the mountains to eliminate those who are responsible for the senseless killing of women and children in Sehwan. There should be no negotiation with Afghan government. The Army should give a long stick to the Afghans just like Raheel Sharif did.
  2. The border fence between Afghanistan and Pakistan should be completed on a high priority basis. Army has been cleaning up the terrorist hideouts in the north since almost a decade now. The gutter from where all this filth is coming should be sealed so it does not spread more. This should be the highest priority.
  3. Pakistan should cooperate with Turkey/Nato/US to send troops in Syria to take the fight directly to ISIS. With tanks, special forces and airforce.

The last step will be a very controversial one so here are the pros and cons:

Pros:

  1. ISIS has the most negative perception, fighting ISIS directly in its heartland will boost Pakistans public image as a fighter against terrorism and will severely derail Indias plans of creating a terrorist perception of Pakistan and Modis plans of isolating Pakistan will collapse overnight.
  2. It will increase Pakistans power projection. It will make Pakistan engaged with major powers in the region like Turkey, Iran, Saudi, USA, Russia and Germany. Countries will start taking Pakistan more seriously, allies such as China will want more closer ties and other countries will ask to form alliances such as GCC countries.
  3. It will damage Indias image in the global community. India has being trying to blame Pakistan as a terrorist country. Actions speak louder than words and this action by Pakistan will expose Indias lies to the world.
  4. Pakistan gained great experience from the operations and battles against terrorists in Northern Pakistan. Most soldiers on Pakistani side of LOC are very high on morale and confidence despite having lower numbers because they have direct experience from a conflict whereas there adversaries have never seen a war.
  5. The deployment in Syria would include infantry, tanks, airforce and air defence in a desert environment. This will be a great experience for Pakistan armed forces cooperation to counter cold start in the deserts of Bahawalpur. Pakistan can also test latest Chinese weapons such as the Al-Haider tank, the new attack helicopter and 5th generation fighter jets.
  6. It will improve the global security, preventing future attacks not only in Belgium, France, Germany but also in Pakistan.
  7. Chance for the COAS to take decisive action and to prove his worth. Send a message to the enemies that we have a strong leadership and we are not to be messed with.

Cons:

  1. It can be costly and require deployment of up to 10,000 troops.
  2. Pakistan is already in its own conflict with a new war starting against terrorists soon in Pakistan. Army is already stretched between Afghanistan, Balochistan, LOC and Western border. With the new addition of defending CPEC routes.
  3. May make us short on troops back home to defend against an Indian Cold Start attack.
  4. Repercussion or increase in suicide attacks.
  5. May turn into a prolonged deployment for example the Afghan war.

For number 2, 5000-10000 soldiers may not be a big problem. Pakistan has the highest number of contribution to UN mission and we are used to sending thousands of soldiers to help in conflicts abroad. It was Pakistan army that rescued US soldiers when their black hawks were shot down in Somalia.
For number 3, 10,000 troops and a few dozen tanks will not make a huge impact. Also if India attacks a country which is a major non-Nato ally currently in a war with ISIS. This will damage Indias image so bad that it will take them decades to recover, not to mention that many allies will be more willing to help such as Turkey, Saudi and China.

Not to mention that India will no longer have the justification to launch cold start after the world sees Pakistans resolve to fight terrorism and Indias cries of terrorist and failed state as a blinding cloud to fool the world. This will help Pakistan in case of war against India because we will get invaluable hands on experience in coordinated desert warfare and the ability to test latest Chinese high tech weapon systems. May even test missiles that are used to carry tactical nukes.

For number 4 and 5. So what if they retaliate, does not mean we will make decisions from fear tie our own hands and sit quietly when they kill women and children just because we are afraid of their so called retaliation. We should act decisively and do it right the first time to cripple them so bad that they cannot even think of doing something like that again. The territories controlled by ISIS are sparsely populated and in the desert, except for the city of Ar-Raqqah. The reason why they seem so strong is that no one has challenged them yet except for the Kurds. Assad is forced to chose his battles and he ignored ISIS because they do not control many urban areas. The main fight was between Rebels and Assad while ISIS took over what they left behind or do not care to take control of. Most of it is waste desert lands, villages and one major city.

Let me know what you guys think. Discuss.
 
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nepali.nationalist

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Your plans and strategies can be thought upon and some can even be acted upon. But my friend the main issue at hand is the present government who is at best most interested in saving itself from the numerous corruption scandals they have gotten themselves into rather than working on a strategy to redeem Pakistan's image and security.

This is the main issue at hand.
 

dingdong

Banned
Bajway ki jaggah koi competent aur Muhib wattan bandaa lao jo Profeesion ke naam parr Nooray Button aur Corruption ko bachanay ki bajaiy Mulk ko bachaa a Bajway jaisay logon saay aap kiya expect karr saktay hain ??? jiss naay Punjab mai operation naa honay diyaa ho ??
 

farooqak

Minister (2k+ posts)
the army should not waste time over these democratic leaders
our politicians are clueless about security and don't even care

army should make the plan, execute the plan and then inform the govt of the results they achieve against these terrorists
treat afghanistan the same way india treats us
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Raheel Sharif never asked the govt. He sent JF-17 to attack targets inside Afghanistan. In one raid the SSG chased terrorists deep inside Afghan territory, when the Afghan army attacked the SSG, the SSG retaliated and killed 7 soldiers, they walked back to Pakistan with no injuries and the dead body of an Afghan army major. This is how to take action, not making statements, no ***** rona of handing over 76 terrorist and showing public by killing random terrorists or allegedly terrorists here and there in the country. If Raheel Sharif wanted the 76 terrorists he would go and get them.

the army should not waste time over these democratic leaders
our politicians are clueless about security and don't even care

army should make the plan, execute the plan and then inform the govt of the results they achieve against these terrorists
treat afghanistan the same way india treats us
 

Amna Rizvi

MPA (400+ posts)
How can the people be so stupid? Everyone I see is praising Raheel Sharif! What did he do, you all forgot?? You got boot polished by ISPR machine. Let me remind you the number of terrorist attacks during Raheel Sharif.

1. Not the first, but lets start with the worst. APS... 144 innocent kids... You still want Raheel Sharif Back?? Idiots. He did same thing.. took people out of missing people camps and killed them in fake encounters just like now Bajwa has done.. Kaddooo theek hoga mulk aisay

2. November, 2016
Daesh claims a deadly suicide attack at a Sufi shrine in the Khuzdar area of Balochistan. 52 people were killed and upward to a 100 wounded.

3. October, 2016 The Daesh says it was behind the storming of a police training college in Quetta, Balochistan that killed 60 cadets

4. August, 2016 The president of Quetta Bar Association is targeted and killed. When his body is brought to a hospital in Quetta, Balochistan, hundreds of lawyers gathered to pay homage. A suicide bomber blows himself up amidst the gathering, killing 93 people, mostly lawyers.

Should I keep going? This is just tip of the iceberg! Only solution is to make rule of law strong. Make police strong. Courts Strong. Protect Witnesses, Protect Evidence (proper evidence, not Dhulaii), Give EDUCATION to ALL etc! These 100 fake encounters will create more terrorists!


Raheel Sharif never asked the govt. He sent JF-17 to attack targets inside Afghanistan. In one raid the SSG chased terrorists deep inside Afghan territory, when the Afghan army attacked the SSG, the SSG retaliated and killed 7 soldiers, they walked back to Pakistan with no injuries and the dead body of an Afghan army major. This is how to take action, not making statements, no ***** rona of handing over 76 terrorist and showing public by killing random terrorists or allegedly terrorists here and there in the country. If Raheel Sharif wanted the 76 terrorists he would go and get them.
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We cannot give education to all because if we do, currently rulers will be out of power. If we had working institutions we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. Look at Israel its in the middle of a **** hole how many attacks happen there as compared to Pakistan? What rule of law. The laws here are not based on thinking or reasoning its based on old scriptures written by people in the deserts of Arabia thousands of years ago which no one here understands but everyone believes to be the absolute truth. Millions of kids going to madrassas made to memorize Quran, in a digital age where memory is cheap. What will these kids grow up to contribute to rapidly changing world? What will these kids do with extremely low standard of education and a country with no jobs? They will be easy recruits for terrorists, and either end up in pieces or killed in fake encounters. This country was progressing but the ship started to sink decades ago after Bhutto and Zia policies which polarized the country.
 

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