Aapas Ki Baat
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Aapas Ki Baat - 28th September 2011
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Thanks mr.sethi, just remember US is a Zionist country controlled by jews and how can you expect something better from them, their electronic and paper media is openly flowing poison against pakistan which is a total lie and we knew US's intentions that one day they are gonna make some lousy excuse like they did against Iraq ,then apologised later. Now they are cooking the story and making their people aware pak is a terrorist nation which is helping the haqqani group and their failure in afghanistan is because of pakistan whereas pak have captured hundreds of afghan army soldiers sent by US into pakistan to fight with our forces on the check posts. Such a big liar country,US is. Everyone knows you have soft corner for US but you tell the both sides of the story. Graham says US can send the bombers with drones ,let them try that and see what happen because pak was expecting this misfortunes from that zionist nation because our nukes are their heartache,this is the truth. How six people crossed the fortified Kabul and fight with US army for 20 hours ,that shows the strength of US in afghanistan. Haqqani group is in afghanistan why blaming pak for it,if they have any intelligence reports they should share with pak and at the same time i will tell the pak army establishment ,they should not allow anyone from pak soil to go into any country for attacks , pak army should stay in touch with US for more intelligence information . US itself is playing double game with pak and blaming pak for it . you described the situation just one sided and that is negative side for pakistan but you did't mention what will happen to americans in return who are depending 100% on pak help in afghanistan and their long term strategic plans.pak made the mistake of depending too much on US for its civilian and military aid and now learning its lesson,depending less on US.This step can be "blessing in disguise" for pak to stand on its feet, there is not end of the world if US dont make the strategic relationship with pak.Pak have other friends who are trustworthy and honest like China,saudi arabia and others.Iran is also coming in line to have good relations so dont be so negative,just think the relations also in positive perspective. If pakistan have real good and honest govt ,it will change the situation completely very soon ,right now the govt is not sincere and honest thats the problem.You said US gave $20 billion, thats not correct. Pak submitted $20 billion bills but out of that got only $11.5 altogether but pak lost $70 billion in economic and property loss.US still holding the funds for Nato support and nato supplies .The politicians rejected the GST, was right step because it was an indirect tax which was gonna be burden on poors. If govt wants to collect the money from rich ,put the direct taxes like other countries. Pak dont have to deteriorate the relations with US to the lowest level but can keep it to moderate level so no more internal interference from US which is the biggest problem .There are also other issues i could go into detail but time is not right now so I leave it for other time .
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Oh bhai samy99 - you watch so many programs and are a good, cool and calm guy who tries to understand in depth.... how do u expect Sethi to consider such things. He is trying hard right now to institute continued US slavery. He is giving example of 1990's. What he is preaching people (always) is to be pessimistic and look at the downside so that people always think US is a GOD. Yes, with the corrupt system of Pakistan, infiltration, people working for foreign powers, army intervening all the time, we have been needing assistance. But we can get rid of all that. Why does he think Pakistan can never go and can self sustain???
Now he is talking about the debts taken from US and mentioning about Osama incident - did we have any benefit when we continued to get aid?? Crap Sethi - full crap. So Sethi is trying to tell the public that Pakistan is destined to be poor and beggar. Sethi is the supporter of status quo in Pakistan and ghulami of America. People should be very careful watching and listening to him.....
He never sits in front of anyone who could just smash him....gets this bachha Muneeb and does a unilateral program.
He is not considering at all that US is super power not for a very long time...........maximum 8-9 years if not less.....
How can people be that stupid to believe that Sethi knows everything - he is an economist, he is a political expert, he knows about every country, he knows about every thing.... bika hua bas**rd.
Also saying that Hillary Clinton kah k gayee hai aap apna system theek karain... who instituted this corrupt government? USA.. how enforced NRO?... USA... with help of PakArmy. So that's why i always write our biggest problems are USA and PakArmy. USA doesn't want Pakistan to get well ... and if someone wants to ask why, i can tell the details but hopefully everyone on this forum knows. There are lots and lots of problems inside Pakistan - and i don't disagree - we have our inside people who are bad/corrupt mir jaffar, mir sadiq ... and we should blame ourselves but that doesn't mean we wouldn't blame outsiders.
See now he is saying US tau nahi kahta yeh, woh..... US is not afraid about money not reaching the public - they want to make sure money doesn't reach poor - otherwise can u imagine that US didn't know about Zardari? How corrupt he is?????
Bullshit Sethi.....
Now he is talking about the debts taken from US and mentioning about Osama incident - did we have any benefit when we continued to get aid?? Crap Sethi - full crap. So Sethi is trying to tell the public that Pakistan is destined to be poor and beggar. Sethi is the supporter of status quo in Pakistan and ghulami of America. People should be very careful watching and listening to him.....
He never sits in front of anyone who could just smash him....gets this bachha Muneeb and does a unilateral program.
He is not considering at all that US is super power not for a very long time...........maximum 8-9 years if not less.....
How can people be that stupid to believe that Sethi knows everything - he is an economist, he is a political expert, he knows about every country, he knows about every thing.... bika hua bas**rd.
Also saying that Hillary Clinton kah k gayee hai aap apna system theek karain... who instituted this corrupt government? USA.. how enforced NRO?... USA... with help of PakArmy. So that's why i always write our biggest problems are USA and PakArmy. USA doesn't want Pakistan to get well ... and if someone wants to ask why, i can tell the details but hopefully everyone on this forum knows. There are lots and lots of problems inside Pakistan - and i don't disagree - we have our inside people who are bad/corrupt mir jaffar, mir sadiq ... and we should blame ourselves but that doesn't mean we wouldn't blame outsiders.
See now he is saying US tau nahi kahta yeh, woh..... US is not afraid about money not reaching the public - they want to make sure money doesn't reach poor - otherwise can u imagine that US didn't know about Zardari? How corrupt he is?????
Bullshit Sethi.....
Who you think is responsible to make pakistan get so deep into this crapy policies? Just let me know if it was army, parliament or the dictator? Cause i believe no dictator is pakistan works with out approval from core commanders.
And secondly am i correct if i say it was the wrong policy that made us bear the 70billion $ loss and not the americans?
Am i right if i say no matter what the heck american say but haqanis does not have the right to stay in pakistan and then attack another country?
And secondly am i correct if i say it was the wrong policy that made us bear the 70billion $ loss and not the americans?
Am i right if i say no matter what the heck american say but haqanis does not have the right to stay in pakistan and then attack another country?
Who forsced paksitan to take that aid or 9 billion from imf?? did they forcefully gave you everything? Did they forcefully gave you military aid?
Let us be honest about our own weakness before we start blaming any one else.
And for heaven sake dont put a lbael on anyone just because you have a difference of opinion. Grow up . Live and let live
Let us be honest about our own weakness before we start blaming any one else.
And for heaven sake dont put a lbael on anyone just because you have a difference of opinion. Grow up . Live and let live
Open your eyes again and read my comment - then if you have any embarrassment then edit your own comment on mine. This is an extract from my comment:
There are lots and lots of problems inside Pakistan - and i don't disagree - we have our inside people who are bad/corrupt mir jaffar, mir sadiq ... and we should blame ourselves but that doesn't mean we wouldn't blame outsiders.
You can clearly see what i wrote - or probably you need better reading glasses. Did I not write that we are responsible from inside as well? For me that's always very important but you just can't focus on one end only. If you don't understand where Sethi comes from, then you clearly have no idea. If you consider him an honest and good analyst, then there is no point in talking about any politics in this world, with you. Everyone can have a certain opinion but at the same time it is important to protect your interests. Sethi, has capacity of an opinion maker, just like some/many other journalists and that is why we have all the rights to criticize him as well as bringing up truth about him. Why do you get twists in your stomach if I express anything about Sethi? It would be interesting to hear. By the way, if you have a good network in Pakistan, then try to check out about Najam Sethi and then you won't ever respond to anyone's comment like that.
Just on a lighter note and for fun: I guess you love him just because his initials are NS .... just like wadda ***** ;)
mjzafar, Thanks for your compliments, I wanted to mention about China who is our best and tested friend at all times,China transferred technology of all sorts ,working hundreds of projects at this time and stood by pakistan at this crucial time and warned India and USA not to touch pak soil whereas US just give us aid or military hardware but ,never transfer technology, pak had to pay back from its nose. mr.sethi gave the impression that china is nothing but did't mention China's contribution to pak success in making JF-17 ,Taxela heavy industry and other projects.Look what happened when pak joined the war on terror ,lost $70 billion and 35000 people and army 6532 personnel and still pak is the culprit in their eyes.Money they suppose to pay for Nato support fund and Nato supplies still not paid,thats what pak got from US for its friendship? Pak will be better to get out of that damn war on terror which is actually war on muslims ?
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