Aapas Ki Baat - 23rd August 2013 - By-Elections: Why didn't PTI get the much desired results?

PakGem

Minister (2k+ posts)
Good Analysis. We should now be open to criticism and learn from mistakes, otherwise we will be moving in circles without moving forward.
 

S.A.Z

MPA (400+ posts)
سیکھنا نہیں تو آگے بڑھنا نہیں

لیکن اس گفتگو میں کچھ مزید باتیں ہیں جن پر توجہ دیتے ہوئے اب الیکشن میں دھاندلی ہوئی تھی کا راگ الاپنے سے پرہیز کرنا پڑے گا کیونکہ جب جب یہ راگ شروع کیا جائے گا تب تب دوسرا فریق یہ پوچھے گا کہ جو الیکشن فوج کی
نگرانی میں ہوا اُس میں آپ نے کونسا تیر مار لیا؟؟؟

شہباز شریف کی سیٹ ہارنے سے حکومتی ارکان واضح طور پر کہہ سکتے ہیں کہ اگر ہم لوگوں نے نگران سیٹ اپ میں دھاندلی کروائی تو پھر اپنی حکومت کےہوتے ہوئے شہباز کی سیٹ کس طرح ہار جاتے؟؟؟

زرا سوچئے اب دھاندلی کے خود ساختہ سانپ کو پٹاری میں رکھنا ہی بہتر ہے۔
 

Phantu

MPA (400+ posts)
- Army can somehow gurantee that there is no rigging during the polling (no in-poll rigging).
- Pre-poll rigging can somehow be managed with active, experienced party members and election candidates.
- New aspect in these elections is post-poll rigging. RO didn`t issue results on official forms, without signatures of polling agents of different political parties. Under influence/pressure they issued the manipulated results. EC didn`t take any notice and still not giving public the official-forms of these results. Adalia issue stay-order if you want recounting etc. Next 5-10 years you will fight to get transparent results till there will be next elections.

Result for PTI: Focus on fixing post-poll rigging.
 

Muskerahat

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I agree with you. now pti must learn. Imran khan need to learn. I could not eat when pti lost 2 seats from Peshawar and mainawali . Imran khan need to change CM of KP need to do some thing. pti gave wrong peoples ticket like they did in gernral election. now pti losing worker. but there is still time. do some thing khan if you don't then pti will go away
Good Analysis. We should now be open to criticism and learn from mistakes, otherwise we will be moving in circles without moving forward.
 
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zeeshan_xt

Councller (250+ posts)
سیکھنا نہیں تو آگے بڑھنا نہیں

لیکن اس گفتگو میں کچھ مزید باتیں ہیں جن پر توجہ دیتے ہوئے اب الیکشن میں دھاندلی ہوئی تھی کا راگ الاپنے سے پرہیز کرنا پڑے گا کیونکہ جب جب یہ راگ شروع کیا جائے گا تب تب دوسرا فریق یہ پوچھے گا کہ جو الیکشن فوج کی
نگرانی میں ہوا اُس میں آپ نے کونسا تیر مار لیا؟؟؟

شہباز شریف کی سیٹ ہارنے سے حکومتی ارکان واضح طور پر کہہ سکتے ہیں کہ اگر ہم لوگوں نے نگران سیٹ اپ میں دھاندلی کروائی تو پھر اپنی حکومت کےہوتے ہوئے شہباز کی سیٹ کس طرح ہار جاتے؟؟؟

زرا سوچئے اب دھاندلی کے خود ساختہ سانپ کو پٹاری میں رکھنا ہی بہتر ہے۔



bhai dhaandli ka election haarnay say koi taaluq nahi...
i think both things still need to be done.
any election rigging must be investigated to ensure free and fair elections happen.
at the same time PTI has to learn from their mistakes...has to perform...and deliver.
 

PakGem

Minister (2k+ posts)
I agree with you. now pti must learn. Imran khan need to learn. I could not eat when pti lost 2 seats from Peshawar and mainawali . Imran khan need to change CM of KP need to do some thing. pti gave wrong peoples ticket like they did in gernral election. now pti losing worker. but there is still time. do some thing khan if you don't then pti will go away

Agreed on Tickets part but as for CM part i was also bit annoyed in begining and was preffering Asad Qaiser but to be honest Khatak is conducting well. KP is very difficult province and
experience man at top required. I would give Imran's choice atleast couple of years but if he doesn't deliver and on ground perception is not changed than he should be changed.
But for now we should stick and give him proper chance.

Two months are nothing to judge performance, on the other hand Imran is also getting more and more active of late in KP and that will also make a difference.

One thing for sure, Imran will have to learn from mistakes NOW and Khatak will have to show governence in a year or two otherwise change him but should
be given proper chance.

 
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