A major effort to repair Iran Saudi relations will be underway in next few days . Good news

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
It seems that a major effort is underway to arrange the Saudi - Iran reconciliation in the next two weeks . Foreign ministers of two countries are in turn visiting Qatar . Saudi minister gave an "angry" response to Iranian comment on Bahrain . Which was worded in a manner that indicated that Bahrain cannot be discussed but it also hinted that these are not the statements of country desirous to move for better ties , meaning that better ties are after all possibe.

Time has come for Pakistan to help this reconciliation process , Nawaz should visit Iron to smell the strength of anti Saudi military lobby in Tehran , if that is not so strong then we should arrange meeting of foreign ministers next time in Pakistan . Malaysia and even Senegal who have helped Saudis are good sites for a meeting .


As mentioned earlier Turkey has decided to intervene militarily against All three , Assad, IS and Kurds , and Turkish have indicated yesterday in polite term that they have the ability to change things by force in Iraq, Syria.

Assad has been dropped and will fade away from the scene and may end up in France , Aden and part of Yemen will remain under thumb of Saudis , IS will have to share Damascus as minor partner , multinational force will enforce peace in Damascus .

Caliphate will have to make president of the Caliph as Arab rulers dislike this title , off course rightful for who controls Mecca and Medina. Baghdad too will be under multinational force . Iran will roll up Hezbollah Rockets , and learn to live normally .. Otherwise sanctions on Iran will stay .

Shias in future will have to show more interest in Quran , more adherence to Sunnah of prophet and more individual and deeper study of original sources of Islamic knowledge , that is if they want to improve ties with other Muslims , and enrich themselves spiritually , otherwise constant agitation , constant lamentation type interpretation will move it away it from Sunni world and trap them with ayatollahs type high priests for ever .They will have to move away from shrine based emphasis to basic tenets based interpretation . Mecca is the centre of Islam , this centre cannot be sunni Sufi saint shrines or shrines in Iraq or elsewhere . Islam was a religion where high priest is not needed , principles are needed .But that does not mean we demolish graves with bombs , that is very rude and very insulting to the dead , we can reduce their elaborateness slowly .


Iranians were historically good soldiers and nation given to finer things of culture ,but for it to dream to over power Sunnis, or Pakistanis or Turks or Arabs is not a valid or possible thought . After all even in Pakistan , all the time it is Sunni AC DC Police which assure that excessive shia processions remain safe and unmolested despite grave show of sometimes troublesome sectarian symbolism . Zia kept quiet even when Iranian revolutionary guards entered Quetta for a while , but that is unlikely now.
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Iran will return to international community that is all , if it tries to keep feet in Yemen and Syria , then it get ready for fighting war on three fronts .

My assessment is that if peace is not possible Turkey and Saudis are entering war theatre within three months , Saudis entering Yemen , Turkey entering Syria and then Iraq for a final showdown with Shiasm , Even Netanyahu might invade southern Lebanon to destroy Hezbollah . Iran has no choice , fake honour or real money , it will go for real money and that is going to be good for all of us , both Sunnis and the world .

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Saudi foreign minister holds key talks in Qatar



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DOHA: Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir paid a surprise visit to Qatar and met Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani on Sunday, local media reported.

Doha said brotherly relations between the two countries and ways to further improve them were discussed during the talks, in addition to regional and international issues. Al-Jubair’s visit assumes significance in light of regional developments, especially the Iran nuclear deal. Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif is scheduled to visit Qatar on Monday.

Zarif will meet Qatar’s leaders and discuss bilateral relations and regional issues, in addition to the nuclear deal.
Speaking in Kuwait City on Sunday, Zarif called for a united front among all Middle Eastern nations to fight militancy.
“Any threat to one country is a threat to all... No country can solve regional problems without the help of others,” Zarif said at a news conference.

Zarif earlier met Emir Sheikh Sabah Al-Ahmad Al-Sabah and his Kuwaiti counterpart, Sheikh Sabah Al-Khaled Al-Sabah, who was not present at the press conference.Zarif urged GCC states to cooperate against the common threat of “terrorism, extremism and sectarianism.”

On Saturday, Bahrain’s Interior Ministry said it had detained two men accused of trying to smuggle weapons from Iran.
That announcement came hours after Bahrain said it was recalling its envoy from Tehran in protest at hostile comments by Iranian leaders.Manama accuses Tehran of backing opposition demands in Bahrain.


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shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Post seem to be written by Pro Zion lobby.
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Saudi under Dog

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It seems you are still sticking to power equation of the 1970s , major strategic decisions are being made for the last five years in sunni World , wrich is 90% of the Muslim world .We feel that our strategy in coming decades will help Muslims generations not get rounded up or defeated by antagonistic forces . When a Sunni thinks of Muslims , he has in mind interests of Muslims from Liberia to Indonesia , from California to central Asia , from Mindanao to Moscow , while when post 1979 shia thinks he seems to think of imaginary inflated shia numbers , gives superimportan to Iran , a very local and focal thinking . Jews are just a few million , they do not even convert others that much .I hope 100 years from now they will be offering prayers in mosque , afterall this happened to their middleastern forefathers . The mission of muslim is to convert the entire world, but that is not possible without contact .
 
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Diriyah

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oh sir jeee.... first lower your English language... I am more in to Desi English standard.

Secondly, your post is solid jali propaganda, some one may have paid you $$ to write this post. Its very high level English for common Pakistani.

Rule #1, try not to be speculative in your post. This is not Wall street, you need to backtrack your words with what on the ground.
Rule #2 Be subjective, like coming out clear about what you want to say. Do not wrap your words with fancy lawyer like English.

So go back write what you want and make sure you do not accept any money from Saudi King. The Fatwa making factory.







It seems you are still sticking to power equation of the 1970s , major strategic decisions are being made for the last five years in sunni World , wrich is 90% of the Muslim world .We feel that our strategy in coming decades will help Muslims generations not get rounded up or defeated by antagonistic forces . When a Sunni thinks of Muslims , he has in mind interests of Muslims from Liberia to Indonesia , from California to central Asia , from Mindanao to Moscow , while when post 1979 shia thinks he seems to think of imaginary inflated shia numbers , gives superimportan to Iran , a very local and focal thinking . Jews are just a few million , they do not even convert others that much .I hope 100 years from now they will be offering prayers in mosque , afterall this happened to their middleastern forefathers . The mission of muslim is to convert the entire world, but that is not possible without contact .
 
It seems you are still sticking to power equation of the 1970s , major strategic decisions are being made for the last five years in sunni World , wrich is 90% of the Muslim world .We feel that our strategy in coming decades will help Muslims generations not get rounded up or defeated by antagonistic forces . When a Sunni thinks of Muslims , he has in mind interests of Muslims from Liberia to Indonesia , from California to central Asia , from Mindanao to Moscow , while when post 1979 shia thinks he seems to think of imaginary inflated shia numbers , gives superimportan to Iran , a very local and focal thinking . Jews are just a few million , they do not even convert others that much .I hope 100 years from now they will be offering prayers in mosque , afterall this happened to their middleastern forefathers . The mission of muslim is to convert the entire world, but that is not possible without contact .

You are wrong about Jews....... Jews never accepted Islam in Arabia .... They accepted butchery instead of leaving their religion

Even after the creation of Israel ....... One million Jews migrated to Israel from Arab countries

Now Jewish population is 13 million worldwide and 6 millions in Israel .... Till the end of this century Jewish Population will reach 160 million alone in Israel!

The birth rate of Jewish population of Israel is higher than the Muslim Populations of Malaysia , Iran and UAE!

Even in West Bank Palestinian Muslim birth rate in 3.1 child per women and Jewish birth rate in West Bank is 5.5 child per women!

Jews are here to stay and they are expanding despite higher Education and Prosperity while Muslim Population and Birth rate is also falling drastically like Christians in prosperous Muslim States!

Indeed at the end of this century Israel will be exporting Jews to Western Countries instead of Importing!
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Muslims have to get rid of this Jewish conspiracy thing , offcourse they are conspirators , but so are all the rest . Russia , Britain , France , India , USA , even China are all good conspirators . There is no comparison between Islam and Jews . Islam is a global religion with 2000 million adherents in all countries of the world, large numbers in non Muslim EU and in India , China , Russia etc . Half the Africa is Muslim , About a quarter to half of Asia is Muslim. Islam is a multicontinental religion whereas Jews are in insignificant number. They do not have a global doctrine for humanity , theirs is a small remit . Offcourse they stopped Islam in Early days of Medina and got punished too , offcourse they have even after conversion to Islam sometimes tried to derail interpretation of religion of Islam , but they also remained as Muslim taxpayers , they facilitated entry of Muslim in Spain and suffered for it too and were exiled. Vast majority of jews in history have converted to Christianity and Islam otherwise the jews which crossed Nile during Moses should now have multiplied to atleast 500 million by now.

No doctrine in the world is so much open for all humanity and so powerful logically and so military attractive that 1400 years on , even progeny of Genghis fought for it.

A Muslim accepts the reality of Man messengers Jesus and Moses and conversion to Islam does not involve repudiation of these and this is very troubling for Jews and Christians and conversion mostly requires additional belief in Muhamme the final man prophet , which is easy . only in the last two hundred plus years have these conversions slowed.

Jews are nothing doctrinally in comparison , but they have a certain economic power and certain intellectual power , I do not think they are very keen in fighting Arabs if a compromise could be found.

It is my view that some Arabs regimes to continue ruling their own people did try to act hawkish on the issue of Israel for decades and at the same time neither gave land or succour to palestinians . If Sinai would not have been in Israeli hands Egypt would not have fought 1973 war.

Time of decisions has arrived. Sunnis and shias have to make a decision , Israel and Turkey has to make a decision.

There can be no peace with Israel unless it allows atleast 1.5 million Palestinians to settle in Israel proper.

Arabs got independence from Turkey by helping west , they were not trained for wars and therefore could not win 1948 and 1967 wars . They gradually learned , what they did to USA , I mean the Sunnis of Iraq as Iran was collaborator of USA in Iraq as is now.

There is more danger to Sunni Islam from Iran - USA- France alliance than Israel at this time and this is a ground fact .
 

atensari

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