A Christine can be Prime Minister, if Bilawal wants to become Christine - Moeed mumbles

[ZenoInTheZoo]

Re: Moeed Pirzada calling bilawal zardari .. bhutto is an option for bilawal

I am talking this because of their so much negative stance towards Terrorism and War of Terrors.........

Do you know Pak Army doesn't deploy Sunni Army personals in FATA? Because they are obeying in the way Pak Army $$$ hungry generals want. They can't kill people blindly. For this very reason, now Shia army personals are usually deployed in FATA to kill innocent people without thinking for a second.....We have seen very recently where more than 50 people were killed indiscriminately. This is the situation on ground and you are here to teach me lesson about sectarianism.

These Shia, including these anchors & journalist, hate Sunnies (and so the Taliban) and the those who don't want war in the country because they think we (people like IK and us who want peace in the country) want to protect Taliban by demanding dialogue with Taliban.

Can you name any Shia Anchor or Journalist or Columnist who are the supporter of Dialogues with Taliban? All are against it.

First, when we say something about someone or some org, it means we are giving an honest testimony (Shahadah). I am saying this in reference to what u have written about Pak Army and I have no reason not to believe u.

Second, if u r to be believed and Army is using this deployment tactics as a matter of policy. Believe me in that case this country and nation are doomed, IK or no IK, if the only institution which historically has been known for working professionally without take sides has come to this pass. In other words u mean to say that there is some kind of Shia regiment or corp which is deployed in FATA. This really is news for me.

Third, I was born into a Sunni family but thanks to my learning process now Alhamdulillah I am above all this sectarian crap. I have issues with some Shia beliefs but that is not for me or anybody else to judge. Now u need to look at what this TTP and other Takfiri groups or doing to Shias and other minorities in this country. In this context, their opposition to them is understandable. So, if they are advocating for operation and war with TTP, then a great majority is also opposing them. Why the majority have to give their argument a sectarian color? Won't they be weakening their argument by giving it a sectarian bent?

Fourth, frankly I don't see any of my countrymen/women thru sectarian glasses. For me they all r Pakis as long as they r loyal to the motherland. Are Abdul Malik or Najm Sethi also Shia? Is Talat Hussain Sunni? He is not advocating operation or war. What about Patafi and likes of Fawad Chaudary? Please learn to respect difference of opinion in a society. Some people genuinely have left leanings and they oppose TTP out of that. But this group also should not become liberal extremists or fascists. They need to keep the interest of the country supreme.

Finally, I cant teach anyone who has already been schooled and converted into an expert. We learn only when we keep our mind open to reasoning. I just gave u a sincere advice in my last post and u became angry/annoyed with me. This is not a how a learned person would behave........

 

[Nice2MU]

Re: Moeed Pirzada calling bilawal zardari .. bhutto is an option for bilawal

First, when we say something about someone or some org, it means we are giving an honest testimony (Shahadah). I am saying this in reference to what u have written about Pak Army and I have no reason not to believe u.

Second, if u r to be believed and Army is using this deployment tactics as a matter of policy. Believe me in that case this country and nation are doomed, IK or no IK, if the only institution which historically has been known for working professionally without take sides has come to this pass. In other words u mean to say that there is some kind of Shia regiment or corp which is deployed in FATA. This really is news for me.

Third, I was born into a Sunni family but thanks to my learning process now Alhamdulillah I am above all this sectarian crap. I have issues with some Shia beliefs but that is not for me or anybody else to judge. Now u need to look at what this TTP and other Takfiri groups or doing to Shias and other minorities in this country. In this context, their opposition to them is understandable. So, if they are advocating for operation and war with TTP, then a great majority is also opposing them. Why the majority have to give their argument a sectarian color? Won't they be weakening their argument by giving it a sectarian bent?

Fourth, frankly I don't see any of my countrymen/women thru sectarian glasses. For me they all r Pakis as long as they r loyal to the motherland. Are Abdul Malik or Najm Sethi also Shia? Is Talat Hussain Sunni? He is not advocating operation or war. What about Patafi and likes of Fawad Chaudary? Please learn to respect difference of opinion in a society. Some people genuinely have left leanings and they oppose TTP out of that. But this group also should not become liberal extremists or fascists. They need to keep the interest of the country supreme.

Finally, I cant teach anyone who has already been schooled and converted into an expert. We learn only when we keep our mind open to reasoning. I just gave u a sincere advice in my last post and u became angry/annoyed with me. This is not a how a learned person would behave........

Not might be the whole regiment, but majority of Deployed in difficult areas are Shias.......This was also a shocking news for me when I visited my village some two years ago in Mohmand Agency. And you still believe that Army is so sincere to this country? I think you forget that who had created this SSP and Lashkar-e-Jangvi in early eighties? Not you or me, it was Army who did it. Very recently I was watching an interview of IK in which he stated that SSP people told him that how Army use them against Shias?

2nd My question was that "Name any Shia Anchor who are pro-dialogue" but you took this discussion to somewhere else.

Forget about Fawad Chaudhry and Najam Sethi because FC is in PPP and PPP has an agenda whereas is Najam Sethi is a also know for his anti Islam views. I don't know but people say that he is Qadiani (God knows the best).

Talat Hussain, Moeed Jafri, Asma Sherazi etc. are Shai and they are very much against dialogue.......

$$$ influence is so much in our society that I can't give any room to anyone (specially in the media) that he/ she thinks with his/ her own brain or with sincerely. Most of them are working on some special agenda.... You would also heard this statement of a US Lawyer that " Pakistanis can sell their mother for 10 $$$" and this tells the whole story whether you agree or not.

If you close your eyes, it doesn't mean that someone is not watching you..... If we even think in positive way, Shia wouldn't think in the same way. In this situation, what have we do to then. If we don't want to harm them, at least we have to safeguard ourselves from themselves along exposing their agenda.

 

[ZenoInTheZoo]

Re: Moeed Pirzada calling bilawal zardari .. bhutto is an option for bilawal

Not might be the whole regiment, but majority of Deployed in difficult areas are Shias.......This was also a shocking news for me when I visited my village some two years ago in Mohmand Agency. And you still believe that Army is so sincere to this country? I think you forget that who had created this SSP and Lashkar-e-Jangvi in early eighties? Not you or me, it was Army who did it. Very recently I was watching an interview of IK in which he stated that SSP people told him that how Army use them against Shias?

2nd My question was that "Name any Shia Anchor who are pro-dialogue" but you took this discussion to somewhere else.

Forget about Fawad Chaudhry and Najam Sethi because FC is in PPP and PPP has an agenda whereas is Najam Sethi is a also know for his anti Islam views. I don't know but people say that he is Qadiani (God knows the best).

Talat Hussain, Moeed Jafri, Asma Sherazi etc. are Shai and they are very much against dialogue.......

$$$ influence is so much in our society that I can't give any room to anyone (specially in the media) that he/ she thinks with his/ her own brain or with sincerely. Most of them are working on some special agenda.... You would also heard this statement of a US Lawyer that " Pakistanis can sell their mother for 10 $$$" and this tells the whole story whether you agree or not.

If you close your eyes, it doesn't mean that someone is not watching you..... If we even think in positive way, Shia wouldn't think in the same way. In this situation, what have we do to then. If we don't want to harm them, at least we have to safeguard ourselves from themselves along exposing their agenda.

Well.......appearance can be deceptive! I take back the last sentence of my previous post.........

Good Day!

 

[Nice2MU]

Re: Moeed Pirzada calling bilawal zardari .. bhutto is an option for bilawal

Well.......appearance can be deceptive! I take back the last sentence of my previous post.........

Good Day!

No, mate I don't get angry for reasonable arguments.

Have a Good day and new year