47 employees fired for issuing fake identity cards: Chairman NADRA

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
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  • NADRA employees are involved in issuing fake CNICs, alleges Senator Talha Mahmood.
  • Letter written to DG ISI on the issue of fake identity cards, informs chairman NADRA.
  • NADRA to launch a national verification and renewal drive.
Forty-Seven employees have been fired for creating fake identity cards, Chairman National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) Tariq Malik revealed Monday.

During a meeting of the Senate Standing Committee on Interior Affairs with Tariq Malik, Committee's chairman Senator Talha Mahmood raised the issue of fake identity cards.

Senator Mahmood said that he has a list of 45 people whose blocked Computerised National Identity Cards (CNICs) were unblocked. He alleged that a NADRA employee unblocked the cards in exchange for a house.

Mahmood added that previously, fake identity cards were issued to people of Al-Qaeda.

In response, Malik said that upon the directives of Prime Minister Imran Khan, NADRA has been reorganised.

He added that he has received 87 cases of NADRA employees issuing fake identity cards and 47 of those employees have been dismissed already.

"A letter has been written to DG ISI on the issue of fake identity cards," Malik said, adding that fake cards were blocked through the use of artificial intelligence (AI).

Malik added that NADRA is launching a national verification and renewal drive under which CNICs would be verified through artificial intelligence.

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The Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Tariq Sab, just let me know if you want a fake passport or CNIC for yourself. I will get it issued for you.
You must implement a life sentence for the corrupts if you want to correct the system.
 

Zainsha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Implement the software module that cross-checks a person's finger prints against records to see if a single person has multiple records in the system. AFAIK this was the module that was not implemented.
 

kaka4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
good job! most cards issued to afghanis.
also find out fake id card and deport from Pakistan
 

Curious_Mind

Senator (1k+ posts)
Just Got fired ??
What about accountability?

the proper action should involve following steps:

1. identify all fake ID cards
2. block/ cancel all these cards and book every individual in whose name a fake ID card was issued
3. Find every employees involved and perform a fast track independent inquiry which finds them guilty or not guilty.
4. Those found guilty should not only be dismissed but send to jail for long period so they become lesson for all in future.

but I am sure all this is not done because someone (untouchable) need to be protected
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Just Got fired ??
What about accountability?

the proper action should involve following steps:

1. identify all fake ID cards
2. block/ cancel all these cards and book every individual in whose name a fake ID card was issued
3. Find every employees involved and perform a fast track independent inquiry which finds them guilty or not guilty.
4. Those found guilty should not only be dismissed but send to jail for long period so they become lesson for all in future.

but I am sure all this is not done because someone (untouchable) need to be protected
It won't be easy to prove them guilty for sentencing in the courts- at least by NADRA. That'd put a huge burden on the department - financially, in terms of human resources and in capacity . Only parliament can make special laws in this regard and empower FIA to prosecute the charged, otherwise the courts will jump in with all nuisance.
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Shouldn't those have been put behind bars? Thy caused a security threat to Pakistan by making these fake cards
 

Haha

Minister (2k+ posts)
صرف نوکری سے نکالنا تو کوئی سزا نہیں ایسے حرام زادوں ملک دشمنوں کو پھانسی نہیں تو عمر قید تو ضرور ہونی چاہئے
 

Curious_Mind

Senator (1k+ posts)
It won't be easy to prove them guilty for sentencing in the courts- at least by NADRA. That'd put a huge burden on the department - financially, in terms of human resources and in capacity . Only parliament can make special laws in this regard and empower FIA to prosecute the charged, otherwise the courts will jump in with all nuisance.
If you can’t prove anything then why dismiss suspend ?
Only on the basis of suspicion?

remember Innocent until proven guilty?
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If you can’t prove anything then why dismiss suspend ?
Only on the basis of suspicion?

remember Innocent until proven guilty?
I agree with you that the culprits should be put in jail. But by whom and how?

For dismissal's or suspensions, there are departmental rules, agreements with the employee and an internal inquiry is set up by internal rules. Departments carries out inquiry to determine violations of rules and dismisses or suspends someone in accordance with mutual agreements. This all falls under Tort not criminal trials.

The employee may challenge the decision in the court but, for institution like NADRA, usually the court determines that a competent and legally constituted authority has made the decision without any malice. and no internal rule is breeched That is not about charging or sentencing but about breech of agreement or a rule only. IN cases related to Civil services, the courts are more keen and several standards have been set in past judgments. In certain cases, the court may invoke human rights issues but that is rarely about guilt - because, to find guilt the courts need investigations i

Trials and sentencing is a different matter altogether. There needs to be investigation in accordance with the rights of the accused + in-courts testimony +cross-examination for proofs without doubt during a criminal trial. For Civil trials (not involving jail terms) the nature of proof is quite lax.
Trials are held under penal codes, common laws and constitution. Proper constitution of courts + defense rights, + constitutional protection, + free and fair judges are considered more important than justice for the citizens. ad pre-requisites..
Surely, This is an expensive and lengthy process, but this is utmost necessary and the base of a society.

In my firm opinion, departments like Nadra or any department or individual cannot be given right for sentencing, charging or even investigating any citizen. This is the job of the courts only , and not even of administration. In principle, investigation is court's duty as well which is delegated to administration by court's own decisions. Thus an investigation can be dismissed, administered, constituted and supervised by the courts at will. It must be so for fair trial - investigate must be only under the supervision of courts and constitutional rights.
Nadra has only one option -i.e. to file a complain with FIA/police which may then investigate. There might be some internal rules regarding this because department such as NADRA might not directly file complaints but only through AG.

Whatever I'd like quick justice and punishment of a crime, these legal rights and rules are above all and more important for a just society. Solution to this situation is that parliament mat set up special courts for quick resolution and investigation with court's permission- although too many special courts and special laws is not a good idea - IMO special investigation units and police reforms is a better solution.
 
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