یا علی مدد کہنا کیسا ہے

drkhan22

Senator (1k+ posts)
Shirk hay... Iyyaka Nah Budu Wa iyyaka Nastaeen ... Ay ALLAH teri he ibadat kerte hen or sirf tuje se madad mangte hen.
 

Ahud1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Shaheedon ki roohain Allah s.wt k pas Jannat may Zindah hain Qabron may nhi.

Quran-e-kreem me do muqamaat pe Allah s.wt farmata hai,

Or Allah ki rah may qatl kye gae shuhadaa ko murda na kaho, wo zinda hain magr tum nhi samajhtay.
[surah Al-Baqarah, surat 02, Ayat.154]


Jo log Allah ki rah may shaheed kye gae on ko hergiz murda na samjho, bul k wo zinda hain apne Rub k pas, rozian dye jatay hain. Allah s.wt nay jo apna fazl inhen de rakha hai is say bohat khush hain or khushian mana rahay hain on logo ki baabat jo ab tak insay nhi milay in k peechay hain, is per k inhain na koi khof hai or na wo ghamgeen hongay.
[surah Aali-Imran, surat 03, Ayat.169]
 

drkhan22

Senator (1k+ posts)
Problem ye hay ahud1 ke ALLAH kehte hen tum samjhte nahee unki hayaat kesi hay ... ye saray badbakht kehte hen nahee nahee ham smajhte hen. Phir uss ki ashkaal paish kerten hen. Jab ALLAH ne kehdia ke unki zindagi ki shakal tumharee samjh se balatar hay to koi kese dawa kersakta hay ke ussay sab samjh hay.
 

Sphere Manisfest

Senator (1k+ posts)
A personal point of view. Can be wrong. Friends can correct if they disagree.

Saying Ya Ali, Ya Hussain etc is ok, as being Shaheed they are alive... but...
Saying Ya Ali Madad, Ya Hussain Madad etc is not ok. Madad can be called from Allah only.

No doubt, Hazrat Ali RA and Hazrat Imam Hussain RA are greatest of human beings and martyrs. Their super-human contributions are unmatched. Their courage and wisdom are phenomenal that no human pen can describe. No other in history matches their valor and bravery. But both of them also seeked Allah's madad in every situation. The best way to follow Ali and Hussain is to follow Allah, as they did themselves.

Hazrat Ali RA himself said: Shirk is so thin like a black ant climbing a black tree in the pitch black darkness of the night of jungle. We must be careful about possibility of shirk in any manner.

Further: Are we 100% sure about saying Ya Ali Madad. I think there is a margin of doubt (Shak). Prophet Muhammad PBUH said "Jis cheez pe shak ho usey chor do". So its a matter of care that we don't say it. Rather, we can say, Ya Allah, help us like you helped Ali RA. Or Ya Allah, help us like Ali RA used to ask help from you. Or, Ya Allah, help us like you enabled Ali RA to help Prophet PBUH, Islam, and Muslims.
 

malikawan1

Citizen
Ya ali madad khena ka jo matlab ghamdi shab nain bola hay is tarah to phir sari pakistani army bhi ghalat hay jo har rooz yaa ali madad ka nara lagati hay pakistan ki sari tareekh mein fauji jawaan aur officer ya ali madad ka nara lagatay hain

aur wasay ali bhi khuda kay namon mein say ekk hay to asal mein to app khuda say madad mangtay hain
yaa ali madad
 

FahadBhatti

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Khud Hazrat Ali razi Allah bhi Allah se hee madad talab kerte the. Hazrat Ali ke Allah se madad talab kerein mere bhai.
 

Upset Pakistani

Senator (1k+ posts)
baray he koi zabardast molana saab hain....aik mint main mslay ka hal suna dia.....is maria ali kay peechay bhi lagta hay koi tahir ashrafi type banda betha hay
 

drkhan22

Senator (1k+ posts)
Aap ne ALi RA ko ALLAH ke sath milaa dia .. SHabash. this is very good example guys. Thats exactly why these things are forbidden. Caz it will ultimately lead to shirk. I have not seen any1 asking ALI madad and meant to ask ALLAH actually :)
Pak Army Ya Ali kehti hay jo ke ghalat hay mager Ya Ali madad nahee kehtee. Ye aisay he jese koi kahay.. Naara e risalat ... Ya rasooluLLAH. Which may not necessarily mean asking for help rather just rememebring them cause of there power and bravery. But if intention is asking for help or Madad then certainly its shirk no doubt.
 

paki-muslim

Minister (2k+ posts)
ghamdi ka maksad sirf fitna phelana aur inteshaar phelana hai. ye qadianio ki tarah aik fitna hai aur qadianio ko musalman bhi kehta hai (youtube pe video hai), kia pata ye khud bhi andar se qadiani ho.

Ghamdi fitney k aqaid :
fitnaeghamdiabykhanqahs.jpg
 
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QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
جو لوگ علی سے مدد طلب کرتے ہیں
وہ دراصل علی کو وہ ہی درجہ دیتے ہیں جو ہم مسلمان الله عز و جل کو دیتے ہیں
 

MAK-THE-ONE

MPA (400+ posts)
جو لوگ علی سے مدد طلب کرتے ہیں
وہ دراصل علی کو وہ ہی درجہ دیتے ہیں جو ہم مسلمان الله عز و جل کو دیتے ہیں


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