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Mawali

Voter (50+ posts)
we are such hypocrites, half of our society has already modernised, they do everything which mullas dislike, but they do it discretely

it really isnt Govt's job to tell grownups how to live
Thank you for speaking the truth. Not only its not the Govt.'s job to tell me how I should live or play, its no body's business. Men and women are opposites that attract and need to mingle and socialize this is what modern science is telling us and frankly the way I live. I am not going to have Saudi Arabian type moral police tell me or my woman how to dress and behave. I will cut their fucking bearded heads off!
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
عوام جیسی بھی زندگی گزارتے ہیں حکومت کی اجازت دیتی ہے تبھی ممکن ہے
 

Diabetes

MPA (400+ posts)
we are such hypocrites, half of our society has already modernised, they do everything which mullas dislike, but they do it discretely

it really isnt Govt's job to tell grownups how to live
Mullas are also doing what they like to do. Mullahs has opened different centres for Halala services, where molvi marries for 1 night to make divorced couple Halal. They are also engaged in the actions (e.g. molvi abdul aziz activities) prohibited in any society.
 

The Sane

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
we are such hypocrites, half of our society has already modernised, they do everything which mullas dislike, but they do it discretely

it really isnt Govt's job to tell grownups how to live
I am afraid I concur with you on this. The state has no business inside the perimeter of ones bedroom.
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
عوام جیسی بھی زندگی گزارتے ہیں حکومت کی اجازت دیتی ہے تبھی ممکن ہے
That's not true in all social affairs - is all of family and societal violence going on due to permission by governments or by society as a whole. IMO, no.

Anyway, Ansar Abbasi is exaggerating here and selling his own manjan.
However this legislation should be as clear as possible and include concrete words and procedures. The notion of 'psychological harassment" is too vague in the hands of police and even judges and may be ill-used, It should be expressed in clear terms and procedures involving experts in the field. For example Family Courts may be the first place after such charges which may, then, recommend for further action under criminal law, if needed.
 
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atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
That's not true in all social affairs - is all of family and societal violence going on due to permission by governments or by society as a whole. IMO, no.

Anyway, Ansar Abbasi is exaggerating here and selling his own manjan.
However this legislation should be as clear as possible and include concrete words and procedures. The notion of 'psychological harassment" is too vague in the hands of police and even judges and may be ill-used, It should be expressed in clear terms and procedures involving experts in the field. For example Family Courts may be the first place after such charges which may, then, recommend for further action under criminal law, if needed.
!!!کیا گھریلو تشدد زندگی گزارنے کا طریقہ ہے​
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
!!!کیا گھریلو تشدد زندگی گزارنے کا طریقہ ہے​
Don't get what you are trying to say! family violence/torture is under discussion - isn't it.?

Anyhow your statement is over the top in general as well.
There are good people and there are bad people - that has nothing to do with permission by government. Even the law has limited control over criminals and crimes. You are a religious person - you must know that one of impetuous for religion is such a human condition where justice is often illusionary and tainted., facts are partial and self-serving
Of course. every society sets standards, roles and limits on social behavior but I don't know any "chirya" like "zindagi guzarney ka tariqa". In the real word , there is diversity of human acts; society and government has to deal with it in concrete terms, not in vague slogans or in accordance with predilute/standards of a small (or a big) group. IMO Compassion and empathy for the victims should be the guide - not social engineering by either side of the debate
 

Resilient

Minister (2k+ posts)
مجھے اس بل میں ایسا کچھ نہیں نظر آیا ، یہ بل پچھلے تین سال سے سندھ پنجاب اور اس سال سے خیبر پختونخوا میں نافظ العمل ہے جس سے وہان کوئی قیامت نہیں آگئی جو اسلامآباد میں نافظ ہوجانے سے آجائے گی