Amal
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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مسلمان عورت کیلئے اس سے بڑی عزت و تکریم کیا ہوسکتی ہے
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knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ms. Amal, Just yesterday , we were discussing a news
to which you wrote that the woman and her parents are also responsible for the rape of the woman.
Remember this conversation
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"this is your opinion ! in this case culprit is molvi he should be punished and negligence of girl and her parents they leave her alone with na mehram ."
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I am still waiting for your answer, a poor girl got raped by a Molvi in a madrasa, you said that the girl and her parents are also responsible. I asked you their punishment. You didn't come back to me. I am still waiting to know the punishment of the girl who got raped in Islam from you. You had said that she was sitting there without a Mehram so she was equally responsible for being negligent.
راولپنڈی: مدرسہ کے معلم مفتی شاہنواز احمد کی 16 سالہ طالبہ سے مبینہ زیادتی
to which you wrote that the woman and her parents are also responsible for the rape of the woman.
Remember this conversation
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"this is your opinion ! in this case culprit is molvi he should be punished and negligence of girl and her parents they leave her alone with na mehram ."
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knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ms. Amal, I had to come here to counter you because there are many people like you who represent Islam here but have little knowledge about Islam.
Let me tell you about an incident of rape during Prophet Muhamad PBUH time. A lady was coming for Salat u fajar , in the dark, without a Mehram, and she got raped.
Prophet Muhammad PBUH
1) did not ask her , why she was without a mehram, also did not say that
2) She was also responsible for the rape because she was negligent to walk in the dark on her own.
Prophet Muhammad PBUH punished the rapist and there was no guilt for the woman. You are blaming the poor girl and her family who got raped because she was in Madersa without a Mehram and calling it Islam.
Watch this video and learn Islam
Let me tell you about an incident of rape during Prophet Muhamad PBUH time. A lady was coming for Salat u fajar , in the dark, without a Mehram, and she got raped.
Prophet Muhammad PBUH
1) did not ask her , why she was without a mehram, also did not say that
2) She was also responsible for the rape because she was negligent to walk in the dark on her own.
Prophet Muhammad PBUH punished the rapist and there was no guilt for the woman. You are blaming the poor girl and her family who got raped because she was in Madersa without a Mehram and calling it Islam.
Watch this video and learn Islam
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knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Also Ms. Amal , I want you to watch this part of the video again and again
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Dr Adam
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
جزاك الله خيراً كثيراً في الدنيا والآخرة
samkhan
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
MR ki jagha MS/ Miss ker do. Amal larki hay.
knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Thank for the correction. I was totally unaware. I will fix it.
Dr Adam
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Yes, eik nihait deen daar khatoon. Pehlay bhi logoun ko kai mertaba bataya hai.
knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
but misrepresenting Islam by blaming the victim of the rape for the rape.
Can you imagine a woman who gets raped and reads on social media by someone like Ms. Amal that it was also her fault, How would that victim of the rape feel? How heart broken such a girl would be? You must also have sympathy for such poor women.
Anything which is contrary to Islam and is represented as Islam is a grave sin.
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Dr Adam
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Brother! since I am not aware in which reference this was said, I would exercise my privilege to stay away from any such discussion.
I am not qualified to give judgement on "Deeni Issues" therefore, I try not to unnecessarily poke my nose in these delicate matters.
I hope you will appreciate my position.
Best.
انکا قصور نہیں، ایک بہت مشہور خاتون سکالر کو سننے کا اتفاق ہوا تو وہ خواتین کو "فرما بردار" بیوی بننے کے طریقے بتا رہی تھی اور بتا رہی تھی کہ مرد کا حق ہے کہ وہ بیوی کو مرحلہ وار سزا دے، پہلے ڈانٹے، اگر پھر بھی وہ "فرما بردار" نہ بنے تو وہ اس کو مارے ( جب تک اس کا خون نہ نکلے، اس کی مار پیٹ کرتا رہے، وہ جائز ہے).
اگر مذہب کر نام پر خواتین کو یہ سکھا رہی ہیں کہ وہ مرد سے مار کھاتی رہیں، وہ جائز ہے تو لوگ ایسے ہی سوچیں گے.
knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Un Khatoon scholar kah naam Dr Farhat Hashmi hay.
Previously she wrote that 400 men who sexually assaulted the woman at Minar-e-Pakistan are not to be blamed. It was the woman's fault to go to Minar-e-Pakistan without a Mehram. It was a reaction.
That's what she wrote.
Dr. Farhat Hashmi is well known for putting "Bahooda " videos on her YouTube channel
Videos like these
Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza requested her to remove such Bahooda videos from her channel but she didn't do it.
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Un Khatoon scholar kah naam Dr Farhat Hashmi hay.
Previously she wrote that 400 men who sexually assaulted the woman at Minar-e-Pakistan are not to be blamed. It was the woman's fault to go to Minar-e-Pakistan without a Mehram. It was a reaction.
That's what she wrote.
Dr. Farhat Hashmi is well known for putting "Bahooda " videos on her YouTube channel
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صرف یو ٹیوب ہی نہیں، ان کا پاکستان میں سکولوں اور مدرسوں کا بہت بڑا نیٹ ورک ہے. وہاں بھی یہی کچھ سکھاتی ہوں گی.
یو ٹیوب پر یہ اور اس طرح کی اور اسکالرز اس طرح کی ویڈیوز اس لئے بناتے ہیں کیوں کہ اس سے ان کی بہت مشہوری ہوتی ہے، جو لوگ اس فورم پر اور یو ٹیوب پر سارا دن گالیاں دیتے ہیں وہ اس طرح کی ویڈیوز سن کر جزاک اللہ که کر اطمنان محسوس کرتے ہیں کہ وہ بہت بہترین مسلمان ہیں.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
And then we wonder why the situation in Pakistan is so messed up. When you have ninja bitch dishing out garbage like that and passing it out as deen! Where is the facepalm emoji when you need it!Un Khatoon scholar kah naam Dr Farhat Hashmi hay.
Previously she wrote that 400 men who sexually assaulted the woman at Minar-e-Pakistan are not to be blamed. It was the woman's fault to go to Minar-e-Pakistan without a Mehram. It was a reaction.
That's what she wrote.
Dr. Farhat Hashmi is well known for putting "Bahooda " videos on her YouTube channel
Videos like these
Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza requested her to remove such Bahooda videos from her channel but she didn't do it.
.
Amal
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
plz you read my comments on these threads and point out where i was wrong ?
بے حیائی برائی کو ہی جنم دیتی ہے
راولپنڈی: مدرسہ کے معلم مفتی شاہنواز احمد کی 16 سالہ طالبہ سے مبینہ زیادتی
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
These misogynistic moulvies justify keeping their women wrapped up like a carpet locked away in their homes by quoting out of context verses. The very act which the Quran describe the yahood doing with their holy scripture where they would hide the parts of their books and only recite parts that favored their decisions when it came to edicts and jurisprudence
Here is a short sweet and to the point video on the complete ayat from Surah Azab
knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Good Idea, Mr Adam could answer this.
But you should have been specific. Let me tell him what the problem is.
16 years old is at Madersa to get some Islamic education. She is raped by the Molvi.
You said that the Molvi should be punished AND the girl who got raped and her parents were also negligent because they sent her without a Mehram. This means the girl and her parents are also responsible for the act of rape. I asked you their punishment to which you never came back to me. Here is exactly what you wrote.
I also gave you a Hadees information, where a Sahibia was coming for a Fajar prayer without a Mehram and got raped and Prophet Muhammad PBUH never blamed the Sahabia , why she was coming in the dark without a Mehram, In your assessment the Sahabia also was negligent? Because she was without a Mehram. Even a Hadees could not change your mind and you are still persistent in blaming the rape victim who was in Madersa to get Islamic education.
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knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I wouldn't call her names but She uses Islamic problems to titillate the audience to get hits on her youtube videos. Nobody can find a single Hadees out of thousands of strong and weak hadees where prophet Muhamad PBUH ever blamed victim on the rape and punished the woman at the same time or forgave the rapist. But here many so-called Islamic warriors are desperate to prove that the victim is as much responsible because of being without a Na-Mahram.
knowledge88
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Wish we had more Islamic scholars like him.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Unfortunately moulvies and their mureeds cannot tolerate such people with real knowledge that's why he now has to live in exile.
