قوم چراغ رگڑ بیٹھی

PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI

Minister (2k+ posts)
قوم چراغ رگڑ بیٹھی

پاکستان بننے سے لے کر موجودہ دور تک ہمارا معاشرہ اور ملک سیاسی بھوتوں کی بھینٹ چڑھا رہا.. ہتا کے پوری قوم کو اپاہج ارر قومے میں مبتلا کر دیا نہ ابّ سوچنے سمجنے کی صلاحیت رہی اور نہ ہی کوئی مسیحا آیا . الله بھلا کرے محترمہ شوکت خانم کا الله انکو اپنے جوار اے رحمت میں جگہ عطا فرمائیں کے الہ دین کا چراغ رغر گئی اور ان سیاسی بھوتوں کی دھلائی کے لیے انکے نفسوں پر سوار ایک جن چھوڑ گیں ...جب سے یہ جن نکلا ہے ان سیاسی آقاوں اور انکے درباریوں میں خدا جانے کسی کھلبلی مچی ہے .کوئی لیپ ٹاپ بانٹے جا رہا ہے اور کوئی غیر ضروری بھرتیاں کییے جا رہا ہے . مطلب یہ ک اس سیاسی شعور رکھتی نوجوان نسل کی سیل لگ گی ہے .. ترسے ہوے آوارہ پتنگے موسمی پھولوں کے گلستانوں کا رخ تو کرتے ہیں پر نہی جانتے کے وہ پھول موسمی ہوتے ہیں اور ایسے پتنگے انہی موسمی پھولوں کے غایب ہونے کے ساتھ اپنی رنگین موسمی زندگی بھی کھو بیٹھتے ہیں . الله جانے کے انکے قلب اور بصارت کہاں گی پر دل کو تسلی ملتی ہے سوچ کے کہ کیا فرعونوں کے غلام نہی تھے کیا ؟ . یزید نے الله اور معاشرے کی بھلائی کے بجاے سیاسی فائدے کو ترجیح نہ دی اور اسکے برعکس حضرت علی نے حق کا ساتھ نہ دیا ؟ ہماری جو نوجوان نسل نیٹ کیفے میں بیتھ کے برائیاں کرے ، ہر لچوں لفنگوں والا کام کرے ، ہم انسے امید بھی کیا کر سکتے ہیں انکو ایسے ہی سیاسی لیڈر چاہیے جو انکے کرتوتوں کے بعد انکو تھانے کچہری کے معاملات میں مدد دے سکیں .. بہرحال ابّ یہ بیدار نوجوان نسل جو کے تبدیلی کی خوان ہے چراغ رغرتی چلی جاۓگی ابّ یہ جن تمام سیاسی بھوتوں کا پیچھا کرے گی . گو کے عمران مسیحا تو نہی پر خدا جانتا ھے ان باکی سیاسی لنگوروں سے بہتر ہے اور اپنی گذشتہ پشاوارانہ صلاحیتوں کے سببت امید کا واحد راستہ نظر آتا ہے . غریتمند نوجوانوں کو نہی خریدا جا سکتا جو مرضی کر لیں یہ بےغیرت بریگیڈ کے غیرتمند لیڈران کے ابّ یہ لہو بیدار ہے

پیٹریاٹک پاکستان

 
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Hope4Change

MPA (400+ posts)
جو باشعور طبقہ ہے سمجھدار ہے وہ تو ووٹ ہی نہیں ڈالتے اب جو ووٹ ڈالنے آتے ہیں ان کو بھیڑ بکریوں کی طرح بسوں اور ویگنوں میں میں لا کر ووٹ ڈلوایا جاتا ہے آپ چاروں صوبوں میں نظر دوڑا ئیں آپ کو قطاروں میں کھڑے جو ووٹر نظر آتے ہیں ان میں کتنے لوگوں کو اپنے بیلٹ باکس کی اہمیت کا پتا ہوتا ہےکتنے لوگوں کو پتا ہوتا ہے کہ ان کا ووٹ کیا تبدیلی لائے گا : ڈاکٹر محمد طاہر القادری
Must watch:
http://tune.pk/video/11354/syh
 

PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI

Minister (2k+ posts)
جو باشعور طبقہ ہے سمجھدار ہے وہ تو ووٹ ہی نہیں ڈالتے اب جو ووٹ ڈالنے آتے ہیں ان کو بھیڑ بکریوں کی طرح بسوں اور ویگنوں میں میں لا کر ووٹ ڈلوایا جاتا ہے آپ چاروں صوبوں میں نظر دوڑا ئیں آپ کو قطاروں میں کھڑے جو ووٹر نظر آتے ہیں ان میں کتنے لوگوں کو اپنے بیلٹ باکس کی اہمیت کا پتا ہوتا ہےکتنے لوگوں کو پتا ہوتا ہے کہ ان کا ووٹ کیا تبدیلی لائے گا : ڈاکٹر محمد طاہر القادری
Must watch: http://tune.pk/video/11354/syh

تحریک ے انصاف کا جو جلسہ لاہور میں ہوا اسمے وہ لوگ زیادہ تھے جنہوں نے نہ کبھی جلسے جلوسوں میں شرکت کی تھی اور نہ کبھی ووٹ دیا تھا .. ابّ وہ قوم نکلے گی . انشااللہ
 

Hope4Change

MPA (400+ posts)
Can any candidate of PTI contest election in this current electoral system without spending 10 to 15 Crore rupees in one seat ??????

Irrespective of getting changed the corrupt system before or after elections, we have to see when is it ideal time to get reforms done before or after election....if we are first reached on consensus then remaining question of who will do this become easy......

First question needs to be answered by "who" belongs to us / every one... we being "who" are main decision makers either we want change / reforms in electoral system BEFORE or AFTER ..???




تحریک ے انصاف کا جو جلسہ لاہور میں ہوا اسمے وہ لوگ زیادہ تھے جنہوں نے نہ کبھی جلسے جلوسوں میں شرکت کی تھی اور نہ کبھی ووٹ دیا تھا .. ابّ وہ قوم نکلے گی . انشااللہ
 

PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI

Minister (2k+ posts)
Can any candidate of PTI contest election in this current electoral system without spending 10 to 15 Crore rupees in one seat ??????

Irrespective of getting changed the corrupt system before or after elections, we have to see when is it ideal time to get reforms done before or after election....if we are first reached on consensus then remaining question of who will do this become easy......

First question needs to be answered by "who" belongs to us / every one... we being "who" are main decision makers either we want change / reforms in electoral system BEFORE or AFTER ..???

buddy in a democratic system one has got to spend some money for election compaign or who would know in the remotest areas what PTI stands for ..it requires funds.. look at all the democracies around the globe .. in a mature democratic system party funds (donated by paid members) are used for election compaigns.. so "Yes" you will have to spend some money first to get in... and off-course a limit can be imposed by a credible and enforceable goverment not to spend on elections more then one particular amount... THERE IS NO CHANGE POSSIBLE BEFORE THE ELECTION... me, you ,everyone here wants change ? who cares what we want at the moment as we dont have any representative in the parliament . the fact is that in an ideal situation "Parliament" makes and implements the rules so WE through our REPRESENTATIVES will change the system
 
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Hope4Change

MPA (400+ posts)
You are talking about democracy and comparing with rest of world...first listen this then will come up with our situation of where we fall in world ranking of democracy definitions....whether only electoral system means the democracy ??? what are flaws in current electoral system and why there is no hope in this current electoral system until it is changed before conducting elections for hope and true democracy.....
http://tune.pk/video/11354/syh

buddy in a democratic system one has got to spend some money for election compaign or who would know in the remotest areas what PTI stands for ..it requires funds.. look at all the democracies around the globe .. in a mature democratic system party funds (donated by paid members) are used for election compaigns.. so "Yes" you will have to spend some money first to get in... and off-course a limit can be imposed by a credible and enforceable goverment not to spend on elections more then one particular amount... THERE IS NO CHANGE POSSIBLE BEFORE THE ELECTION... me, you ,everyone here wants change ? who cares what we want at the moment as we dont have any representative in the parliament . the fact is that in an ideal situation "Parliament" makes and implements the rules so WE through our REPRESENTATIVES will change the system
 

PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI

Minister (2k+ posts)
You are talking about democracy and comparing with rest of world...first listen this then will come up with our situation of where we fall in world ranking of democracy definitions....whether only electoral system means the democracy ??? what are flaws in current electoral system and why there is no hope in this current electoral system until it is changed before conducting elections for hope and true democracy.....
http://tune.pk/video/11354/syh

Agreed it's one point of view - that of Mr Qadri.. A country that is messed up with the diseases so deep where evil pertains in every particle of wind that we breath we have to get first thing right first.. and can't day dream about a khalifa comming to wash the dirt off this land... I said in my above article that imran is not Maseeha, but can help change the downfall curve ..I wish we have khalafat e rashida kind of system in place but looking for a man who wil do that would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.. It's not possible to change the whole system with just voice and noise... at the moment we just have to Cast a vote to get our tongue in the parliament ... then sure and off-course other things as Mr Qadri or any other suggest are do-able..

even in all change management laws and theories you have to do change gradually.. so get first thing right first... PUT THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE PARLIAMENT BOX..
 
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Hope4Change

MPA (400+ posts)
Brother I have no reservations on your article, I respect your true & sincere feelings and desire for Change but as you said that first we want true representatives in parliment but tell me how true representative will enter in parliment , especially ..do you think ...is there any chance for a honest, capable, effecient, educated , middle class person to participate in this electoral system and then win the seats ..without investinting millions of rupees.....be practical not imaginary ...check the ground realities of current electoral process, its requisites, its culture..how people are compelled to vote to elite, feudal, corrupt,exploitative,capitalist & monoploistic persons who fulfill all requirements of current corrupt electraol system and have been enjoying this system for a long time but a common educated, qualified and honest person can not even think of particiapting & contesting election......winning is very far to imagine......????? Since 65 years we have been using this electoral system resulting in a shape of worst to worst situations ...why dont we think of changing this electoral system making it reachable for a common man to not only contest & participate in elections but enter in parliment without any wrong means but on merit and character.....!!

Agreed it's one point of view - that of Mr Qadri.. A country that is messed up with the diseases so deep where evil pertains in every particle of wind that we breath we have to get first thing right first.. and can't day dream about a khalifa comming to wash the dirt off this land... I said in my above article that imran is not Maseeha, but can help change the downfall curve ..I wish we have khalafat e rashida kind of system in place but looking for a man who wil do that would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.. It's not possible to change the whole system with just voice and noise... at the moment we just have to Cast a vote to get our tongue in the parliament ... then sure and off-course other things as Mr Qadri or any other suggest are do-able..
 

PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI

Minister (2k+ posts)
Brother I have no reservations on your article, I respect your true & sincere feelings and desire for Change but as you said that first we want true representatives in parliment but tell me how true representative will enter in parliment , especially ..do you think ...is there any chance for a honest, capable, effecient, educated , middle class person to participate in this electoral system and then win the seats ..without investinting millions of rupees.....be practical not imaginary ...check the ground realities of current electoral process, its requisites, its culture..how people are compelled to vote to elite, feudal, corrupt,exploitative,capitalist & monoploistic persons who fulfill all requirements of current corrupt electraol system and have been enjoying this system for a long time but a common educated, qualified and honest person can not even think of particiapting & contesting election......winning is very far to imagine......????? Since 65 years we have been using this electoral system resulting in a shape of worst to worst situations ...why dont we think of changing this electoral system making it reachable for a common man to not only contest & participate in elections but enter in parliment without any wrong means but on merit and character.....!!

We have examples of systems that are pragmatic and somehow have evolved themselves into a reasonable governing system today.. A women had no right to vote in the UK some 50 years ago and now half of the ministers are womens.. A state that was originated with the blood of red-indians and where blackmen had no right to use whitemen's toilet some 4 decade ago has a blackmen president today.. Things do evolve...things get done sorted one by one... Disease is not voting system but the ruling elite ...me and you would deny voting system, would sit on our eggs on a voting day dreaming about Khalifas and these lunatics will again be in the parliament for next 5 Years.. There is some hope that people have seen in the recent past i want that hope to help stop the downfall of the state... We do have practical examples where this system has evolved with the time...not arguing that this is the best system as Allama Iqbal said

ہے وہی سازِ کہن مغرب کا جمہوری نظام
جس کے پردوں میں نہیں غیر از نوائے قیصری
دیو اِستبداد جمہوری قبا ٰمٰیں پائے کوب
تو سمجھتا ہے یہ آزادی کی ہے نیلم پری
مجلسِ آئین و اصلاح و رعایات و حقوق
طب مغرب میں مزے میٹھے اثر خواب آوری
گرمی گفتار اعضائے مجالس الاماں!
یہ بھی اک سرمایہ داروں کی ہے جنگ زرگری


but in a current situation it's impractical to think about the ideal situations we just need a change in the curve.. a Vote for a credible leadership is the only solution
 
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tariisb

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


قوم کا شعور کوئی جسمانی بیماری نہیں ، جس کے لیے اس کا آپریشن کیا جاۓ اور درست کر دیا جاۓ


قوم کا اخلاق اور سیاسی شعور درست کرنا ، ایک ارتقا کا نام ہے ، جس میں وقت لگتا ہے


مجھے یہی امید ہے ، کہ اب آہستہ آہستہ سوچ اور فکر بیدار ہو رہی ہے ، دعا یہی ہے کہ ، یہ عمل تیزی سے بڑھتا رہے ، آمین
 

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