طالبان سے مذاکرات کا نقصان کیا؟

[such bolo]

بسم اللہ الرحمٰن الرحیم​

طالبان سے مذاکرات کے مخالفین سے ایک سوال

طالبان سے مذاکرات کرنے سے کیا نقصان ہوگا؟؟
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جدید تاریخ میں آج سے پہلےاسلحہ اٹھانے والے گروپس/باغی/دہشتگردوں سے جب بھی حکومتوں نے مذاکرات کیے ہیں وہ یا تو ناکام ہوتے ہیں یا کامیاب...مگر کیا کبھی ایسا ہوا ہے که مذاکرات کے بعد حالات مزید خراب ہووے ہوں اور وہ بھی مذاکرات کی وجہ سے؟؟

اگر مذاکرات کے بعد حالات کے درست ہونے کے تو امکانات ہوں اور مزید خرابی مذاکرات کے نتیجے میں نا هو...تو پھر مذاکرات کے نتیجے میں پیٹ میں مڑوڑ کس چیز کی ہے؟؟

ایک ضمنی تجزیہ بشکل سوال
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کیا مذاکراتی عمل کی طرف رتی بھر بھی پیش رفت نا ہونے سے پہلے دہشتگردانہ واقعات کی بنیاد پر یہ کہنا که مذاکرات کا فیصلہ غلط ہے کیا جائز ہے؟؟

جب سب یہ جانتےہیں که مذاکرات تو ہونے ہی دہشتگردوں سے ہیں اور ابھی تو سیاسی جماعتوں نے صرف مذاکرات کا ارادہ ظاہر کیا ہے، نا حکومت پاکستان نے آپریشن بند کیا ہے نا طالبان نے دہشتگردی بند کرنے کا کوئی وعدہ اور نا ہی مذاکرات کے خدو کھال سامنے آیے ہیں... تو پھر ابھی سے مذاکرات کی مخالفت کیوں؟؟

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[frootloops]

Ek ur Taliban supporter bhai ja kar wazirstan main kun nahee rahete.

 

[atensari]

پاکستان میں موجود مغربی ہمدرد پاکستان کو ان کے ذاتی مقاصد کے حصول کی جنگ میں مصروف رکھنا چاہتے ہیں

 

[rtabasum2]

Dollar anna band ho jain gay, diologue kar kay kyun rozi roti pay laat marni hai

 

[seekers]

Dollar anna band ho jain gay, diologue kar kay kyun rozi roti pay laat marni hai

army wale to pehli salary per guzara kar lain ge, talban becharey to bayrozgar ho jaein gae. un ko to aur koi kaam aata bhi nahin.

 

[Khuram Shehzad Jafri]

Moazakarat honay chaye lekin agar koi Pakistan ko he tasleem na karay aur kahy k yahan koi khilfat lani hai tu us ko danda dena chaye phr theek sy... kyun k yeh log paid agent hain inn men jo nahi chahty k pakistan bhi Pur-aman ho aur tariqi karay... PAkistan apna Oil extract kary , Apni Gas supply kary... Apni industry ko grow karay...

I support PTI , but dont support their too aggressive view about dialogue , we all should give chance to peace but not on their terms.

 

[barca]

جب جانوروں کے موں کو خون لگ جائے تو اس کا کوئی علاج نہیں
اسلام کا نام بلند کرنے کا آخری راستہ یہی ہے مارو
بچوں کو مارو عورتوں کو مارو بزرگوں کو مارو
مسلمان ہے یا نہیں سب کو مارو
جنت بھی ملی گی حوریں بھی ملیں گی ​

 

[Khanisback]

سوات میں مذاکرات ہی کی وجہ سے معاملات مزید خراب ہو گئے تھے اور طالبان بونیر پر قابض ہو گئے تھے ورنہ کم از کم بونیر کے لوگوں کو ہجرت نہ کرنی پرتی اب بھی کوئی فائدہ نہی ہو گا جاہل لوگ صرف طاقت کی زبان سمجھتے ہیں دلیل کے نہی دس سال سے ابھی تک کسی کو یہ بات سمجھ نہی آئی کہ ان لوگوں کو اب ختم کرنا چاہیے اچھا ور برا کوئی طالب نہی جو طاقت سے اپنی بات منواتا ہو وو سارے دہشت گرد ہیں

 

[rtabasum2]

army wale to pehli salary per guzara kar lain ge, talban becharey to bayrozgar ho jaein gae. un ko to aur koi kaam aata bhi nahin.

LOL donno ki salary US hi daita hai, yeh wiki leak parhain[TABLE="class: list issues"]
[TR="class: odd doc"]
[TD="class: date"]2011-06-13 03:38:03
[/TD]
[TD="class: subject"][alpha] INSIGHT - PAKISTAN - Pak army on U.S. aid to Islamabad

[/TD]
[TD="class: from"][email protected]
[/TD]
[TD="class: to"][email protected]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd bigdoc"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 6"] Sent by my colonel friend at GHQ. I didn't ask for this information. But
it comes as the army-intel complex is on the defensive big time on the
home front.
During last ten year US has allocated in principal $20.713 Billion but
pledged by US $18.74 Billion. So far US security related assistance
provided in cash (coalition support fund) as well as in Kind is $12.522
billion. This assistance to Pakistan include $8.647 billion on account of
Coalition Support Fund and $ 3.875 billion on account of security
assistance in kind (weapons, equipments, Expenditure of training by US
trainers , services, visits, pay of trainers etc for armed forces of
Pakistan, civil armed forces and even anti narcotics force). Out of this
$12.522 billion Pakistan Army has received $1.455 billion on account of
coalition support fund and $1.023 billion on account of security
assistance in kind ( as explained above). This way total received by Army
is $2.478 billion out of $12.522 billion receiv
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Politcs]

How you know government is not talking? Also media wants government to do talks with terrorist on tv.

Anyway IK said that "these people who attacked today are not human". Now give me one example where government talks with animals. Either I am mental or either IK is an idiot making me mental.

 

[Naveed Hasan]

جب بھی مذاکراتی عمل شروع ہوتا ہے تو دہشتگردی میں تیزی آجاتی ہے
اور لبرلز کی زبان سے اسلام کے خلاف زہر اگلنا بھی شروع ہو جا تا ہے۔
ذرا سوچیے ؟۔

 

[seekers]

Moazakarat honay chaye lekin agar koi Pakistan ko he tasleem na karay aur kahy k yahan koi khilfat wagera lani hai tu us ko danda dena chaye phr theek sy... kyun k yeh log paid agent hain inn men jo nahi chahty k pakistan bhi Pur-aman ho aur tariqi karay... PAkistan apna Oil extract kary , Apni Gas supply kary... Apni industry ko grow karay...

I support PTI , but dont support their too aggressive view about dialogue , we all should give chance to peace but not on their terms.

kya yeh khula tazaad nahin hai, jis main pti ki aksriat mubtla hai

 

[Khuram Shehzad Jafri]

LOL donno ki salary US hi daita hai, yeh wiki leak parhain[TABLE="class: list issues"]
[TR="class: odd doc"]
[TD="class: date"]2011-06-13 03:38:03[/TD]
[TD="class: subject"][alpha] INSIGHT - PAKISTAN - Pak army on U.S. aid to Islamabad
[/TD]
[TD="class: from"][email protected][/TD]
[TD="class: to"][email protected][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd bigdoc"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 6"] Sent by my colonel friend at GHQ. I didn't ask for this information. But
it comes as the army-intel complex is on the defensive big time on the
home front.
During last ten year US has allocated in principal $20.713 Billion but
pledged by US $18.74 Billion. So far US security related assistance
provided in cash (coalition support fund) as well as in Kind is $12.522
billion. This assistance to Pakistan include $8.647 billion on account of
Coalition Support Fund and $ 3.875 billion on account of security
assistance in kind (weapons, equipments, Expenditure of training by US
trainers , services, visits, pay of trainers etc for armed forces of
Pakistan, civil armed forces and even anti narcotics force). Out of this
$12.522 billion Pakistan Army has received $1.455 billion on account of
coalition support fund and $1.023 billion on account of security
assistance in kind ( as explained above). This way total received by Army
is $2.478 billion out of $12.522 billion receiv[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Taliban ko bhol gayi ap.. wo tu latest weapon USA made aur beqaida maps k sath planning kar k hamla karty hen... un ka support fund nahi dhekaya ap ney :D

 

[Believer12]

مزاکرات انسانوں سے کیے جاتے ھیں بندروں سے نھیں کبھی بندر سے کوی ڈیل کرنا پھر پتہ چلے گا کہ وھ کسی ایک شاخ پر بیٹھتا ھی نھین ٹپوسی مار کر کبھی یھاں اور کبھی وھاں

 

[Khuram Shehzad Jafri]

kya yeh khula tazaad nahin hai, jis main pti ki aksriat mubtla hai

Iss men koi Tazzad nahi hai... Mujey lagta hai jo men ney likh dia... Merey kayal sy bat honi chaye par un ki terms par nahi , hamari apni terms par honi chaye.. aur first hamen USA sy disengage karna chaye then dialogue karnay chaye - agar iss bar bhi na manen tu phr ek dafa full safaya he karna chaye. Sab Afghan ko registered kar k visa par rehna chaye un ko pakistan men... aur jo na ley visa wo deport hona chaye...

 

[rtabasum2]

Taliban ko bhol gayi ap.. wo tu latest weapon USA made aur beqaida maps k sath planning kar k hamla karty hen... un ka support fund nahi dhekaya ap ney :D

ghor say lafz parho ... dono....taliban ke tu pori qoum ko pata hey hamary muhafiz labada auray rakhtay hey

 

[Khuram Shehzad Jafri]

Khilafat waghera ? To kia Pakistan main MUTTAH WAGHERA lagoo kar denna chahiye ?

hahaha aur kia yahan Jihald-al-Nikah k aday khol kar dy den.. jo Syria men kar rahy ho.. masoom larkion ko wargila kar wahan un par janwaron ki tarah 5,5 jahadion ko chora how ahai.. yeh kon sy islam ki khidmat ho rahi hai... News parhooo Tunsia k Interior minister ney kaha hai k kafi pregenat larkian aye hain.. or kal kch Saudia men b wapis aye hain.... aur unhon ney bataya k koi nikah nahi karty thy hamary sath wahan.. phelay un k emaan ka faisla kar lo ..

2nd men ney sahi kaha k yahan khilfat nahi... insano ki zrorat hai... jo dosary insano ko izat etram sy rehnay den.. hewano ki nahi..

 

[KhanHaripur]

Pak fauj ko $$$$$$$ miltay nazar bhi attay hain yeh TALIBAN akhir $$$$$$$ ka kia kartey hain sardiyoun main agg laga k hath garam karty hain kia ?

LOL donno ki salary US hi daita hai, yeh wiki leak parhain[TABLE="class: list issues"]
[TR="class: odd doc"]
[TD="class: date"]2011-06-13 03:38:03
[/TD]
[TD="class: subject"][alpha] INSIGHT - PAKISTAN - Pak army on U.S. aid to Islamabad

[/TD]
[TD="class: from"][email protected]
[/TD]
[TD="class: to"][email protected]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd bigdoc"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 6"] Sent by my colonel friend at GHQ. I didn't ask for this information. But
it comes as the army-intel complex is on the defensive big time on the
home front.
During last ten year US has allocated in principal $20.713 Billion but
pledged by US $18.74 Billion. So far US security related assistance
provided in cash (coalition support fund) as well as in Kind is $12.522
billion. This assistance to Pakistan include $8.647 billion on account of
Coalition Support Fund and $ 3.875 billion on account of security
assistance in kind (weapons, equipments, Expenditure of training by US
trainers , services, visits, pay of trainers etc for armed forces of
Pakistan, civil armed forces and even anti narcotics force). Out of this
$12.522 billion Pakistan Army has received $1.455 billion on account of
coalition support fund and $1.023 billion on account of security
assistance in kind ( as explained above). This way total received by Army
is $2.478 billion out of $12.522 billion receiv
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Khuram Shehzad Jafri]

ghor say lafz parho ... dono....taliban ke tu pori qoum ko pata hey hamary muhafiz labada auray rakhtay hey

Hamary mufhaiz bhi sar-e-Aam karty hen.. Collection support fund har news men suna pechaly 5 sal.. so whats new in it ? Har army ko support milti hai.. phir yeh sirf hamari jung tu nahi ... Deshtgardi sy tu pori dunia affected hain...

lakin jo masoom logon k qatil men malwas hai aur iss mulk k tukray karnay men un ki funding ka zror idea hona chaye ..

 

[seekers]

LOL donno ki salary US hi daita hai, yeh wiki leak parhain[TABLE="class: list issues"]
[TR="class: odd doc"]
[TD="class: date"]2011-06-13 03:38:03[/TD]
[TD="class: subject"][alpha] INSIGHT - PAKISTAN - Pak army on U.S. aid to Islamabad
[/TD]
[TD="class: from"][email protected][/TD]
[TD="class: to"][email protected][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd bigdoc"]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="colspan: 6"] Sent by my colonel friend at GHQ. I didn't ask for this information. But
it comes as the army-intel complex is on the defensive big time on the
home front.
During last ten year US has allocated in principal $20.713 Billion but
pledged by US $18.74 Billion. So far US security related assistance
provided in cash (coalition support fund) as well as in Kind is $12.522
billion. This assistance to Pakistan include $8.647 billion on account of
Coalition Support Fund and $ 3.875 billion on account of security
assistance in kind (weapons, equipments, Expenditure of training by US
trainers , services, visits, pay of trainers etc for armed forces of
Pakistan, civil armed forces and even anti narcotics force). Out of this
$12.522 billion Pakistan Army has received $1.455 billion on account of
coalition support fund and $1.023 billion on account of security
assistance in kind ( as explained above). This way total received by Army
is $2.478 billion out of $12.522 billion receiv[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

talban ka package ka statistic be quote krain phir hi comparison ho ga kon bana hai crore patti