I have and I have read the same argument many times before. But you fail to understand that morality and good deeds have nothing to do with religion.
The Piraha tribe of Brazil is the only Godless tribe on the planet and many missionaries went there to convert them to Christianity. Until they realized there is no need because they are the happiest people on the planet.
One missionay saw a strong young man feeding an older disabled man with his hands. (Piraha do not even know who their father is because they have open sex freedom)
So the missionary asked him why he is taking the trouble to care of this man when there is no bible or God to tell him to do so?
The young man replied: When old man was young he took care of me, and now old man is old so I take care of him.
That one sentence sums it up. Human beings have in innate nature to do good and keep others around them happy because they want to be happy. Religion only makes things worse and brings misery.
There is a beautiful quote from a blind Arab Poet during Abbasid period which goes like this:
Dear vitamin c, you have not bothered to read my this post or for that matter any other posts for your understanding of things from my point of view. I am not arguing with you over religion. I am arguing with you over way of life and my claim is way of life explained in the quran is better than all other ways of life people will ever come across or bring about all by themselves.
You need to read my explanations about things before you could respond to my point of view. Had you read even my this post, you could not have responded the way you have. In your post you are arguing with me over religion and secularism and that is after my saying that I agree with you over your remarks about religion. Had you bothered to read my other posts you will have come across my anti religion and anti secularism stance and the reasons I pointed out for that.
Genes don't do anything the information they contain matters and the question is, where did that info come from. You are explaining the info genes contain but gene themselves do not talk. It is the interpretation of the facts that you are relying upon yet you are ignoring my interpretation of things. We already had an exchange over nature of proof and proving. I explained for you the fact that it is an explanation of any set of facts that cannot be refuted is in fact the proof. Not the facts themselves. Just like objects are only objects they themselves are not explanations. For explanations and their understandings there has to be an intelligent being to make sense of them.
I also explained for you in detail, why scientists and philosophers are anti quraan ie because they themselves have never bothered to study the quran as it aught to be studied just like yourself. You also use mullaan interpretation of the quran to justify your nonsense. You do not try to understand that mullaan themselves may be enemies of deen of islam for their own reasons just like you.
I stand with the quran not mullaans and their mental slaves. I stand against all those who accept or reject the quran for their own willy nilly or baseless reasons due to their own ignorance. This includes you as well, as you already know full well. Not because I am against your person but against your mindset, attitude and behaviour. It is because you are anti God and anti humanity without any good reason that you could defend.
So I suggest that you go back to threads and posts in which we already has some exchanges and see why you are wrong and I am right about the quran and deen of islam. To prove me wrong you will have to know the quran much better than me as well as real world realities. But I am very sure the day you come to know the quran and real world realities you will also come and join me. I wish you do that before it is too late for you.
Remember, the real world is the bundle of facts and the quraan is its best possible explanation. This is how people need to look at the quran and the creation. This is how the quran proves itself as the word of the creator.
Mean while regards and all the best.