The most stupid argument on tv 'is sai India ko faida hoga'

Iconoclast

Minister (2k+ posts)
They learned this art from only the best, the western overlords in the west and US. The transgressions initiated in the name of National Security if probed will land Bush and Blair in jails along with plenty of businessmen.
These are the fruits of democracy. Deal with it.
Whenever you want raise an issue or question the government or any of its institutions, which is publics right in democracy, the answer these days is ' is sai India ko faida hoga'.
Most stupid argument.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Whenever you want raise an issue or question the government or any of its institutions, which is publics right in democracy, the answer these days is ' is sai India ko faida hoga'.
Most stupid argument.
ویسے تو آپ کے اس اشو کو یوں اٹھانے سے بھی
انڈیا کو اس سے مزید فایدہ ہوگا؟....... 😃
 

HimSar

Minister (2k+ posts)
They learned this art from only the best, the western overlords in the west and US. The transgressions initiated in the name of National Security if probed will land Bush and Blair in jails along with plenty of businessmen.
These are the fruits of democracy. Deal with it.
The transgressions at home or even abroad. Pity we aren't that powerful yet. Spot on.
 

Iconoclast

Minister (2k+ posts)
The transgressions at home or even abroad. Pity we aren't that powerful yet. Spot on.
And I was only pointing to their offshore crimes. If we're to take their domestic crimes then most of their politicians will go to jail. The Flint water fiasco happened right under Obama's nose. It's funny no liberal democrip is talking about it. They don't mention his Uturn on protecting whistle blowers and instead persecuting Snowden making his life a living hell.
Goes to show how powerful he was against the CIA.
"That however is Kosher since it's America" says every Pakistani liberal, the illuminated fool.
 

HimSar

Minister (2k+ posts)
And I was only pointing to their offshore crimes. If we're to take their domestic crimes then most of their politicians will go to jail. The Flint water fiasco happened right under Obama's nose. It's funny no liberal democrip is talking about it. They don't mention his Uturn on protecting whistle blowers and instead persecuting Snowden making his life a living hell.
Goes to show how powerful he was against the CIA.
"That however is Kosher since it's America" says every Pakistani liberal, the illuminated fool.
Precisely. One, the inefficiency, two, corruption/ulterior motives, three, the real seat of power. Except a few young, rather un-American voices, these old dogs cover for each other. Like elsewhere. And dance to certain tunes, be it corporate mafia or certain institutions. Like elsewhere. And then get peace prize nominations. The history of usurping minority rights be it the real American natives or else, blatant. Where is real people representation? Or interest, at heart? I'm almost inclined to approve of some of Drump's callous moves just because of that orange unguided missile's unpredictability, adding to the chagrin of their institutions, okay CIA, Pentagon, etc. Although, he's all tame with voting rounds and all. The way he backed out of his unified Korea initiative, the trilateral talks among the real players in Afghan situation, etc.. The mess that is created and covered abroad and at home under this blanket term 'national security', is a crisis in itself, them fooling fellow Americans as well. Who'd like it if Snowden or Assange or else, live and blow their covers? Prob the one thing that unites USA, Russia and China is their animosity towards people who refuse to be bribed. The mini models we have of these undeclared dictatorships are making their role models proud. The only difference being, the establishment tunes the local poticians want to dance to, is the foreign establishment. As soon as our institutions beg to differ from the foreign agendas, these corrupt politicians and well-aided, scolarshipped lifafis and libturds wag tails and jump up to prove loyalty to masters, never mind national interests. If army and politicians are both following instructions, spring cleaning is postponed there. Not otherwise. What happened in Bolovia clearly shows that no matter how beloved a leader is, poor people can only support so much in the face of hurdles.. And pretend enlightened fakers have the audacity to call attempts at autonomy, conspiracies against people or democracy, all the while trumpeteering, colouring the real conspiracies, kosher, as you say. In my limited understanding.
 

Steyn

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Whenever you want raise an issue or question the government or any of its institutions, which is publics right in democracy, the answer these days is ' is sai India ko faida hoga'.
Most stupid argument.
Don't you know that questioning IK is blasphemy and you automatically become an Indian RAW agent?

There is only one patriot in Pakistan and that's Imran Khan and his youthiyas. Rest of the population is on payroll of RAW, NDS.
 

khipk

Senator (1k+ posts)
And I was only pointing to their offshore crimes. If we're to take their domestic crimes then most of their politicians will go to jail. The Flint water fiasco happened right under Obama's nose. It's funny no liberal democrip is talking about it. They don't mention his Uturn on protecting whistle blowers and instead persecuting Snowden making his life a living hell.
Goes to show how powerful he was against the CIA.
"That however is Kosher since it's America" says every Pakistani liberal, the illuminated fool.
They learned this art from only the best, the western overlords in the west and US. The transgressions initiated in the name of National Security if probed will land Bush and Blair in jails along with plenty of businessmen.
These are the fruits of democracy. Deal with it.
Saying the term every liberal, is same is saying that people who are not liberal are followers of JUI and TLP like groups.
While you are right about crimes that take place there. But if you take ratio of rule of law and shady activities in USA and compare that with countries like Pakistan you will see the difference. Secondly crimes like these in USA are generally hushed up, not defended by general public like here. (Generally I think, USA is a cesspool of organised capitalist mafias compared to rest of the developed countries)

There a difference between a positive and negative approach, a positive person would look for positive attributes in other to inspire themselves and contribute to personal growth. A negative person would only pay attention to the negative attributes of others and justify his own negative actions. (time for retrospective, where do you see yourself on this scale ?? )

The positive attitude is also an attribute associated with a good Muslim, look are you, and look at the conservatives (people who are referred to be as religious) how many percentage of them would you say have positive attitude?
https://www.soundvision.com/article/11-sayings-of-the-prophet-to-inspire-optimism

Comming to the point on the liberals, the vocal ones are usually snowflakes, and you consider them as representatives of all liberals. (as I said its same as considering Fazlurrehman and Khadim Hussain Rizvi as representative of all conservative views.)
 

Iconoclast

Minister (2k+ posts)
Lol comparing the bastions of freedom and truth with a country like Pakistan?
They all try to hush it up and when the cat is out of the bag, start defending it.
How many republicans are in pro impeachment? Didn't Obama first try to downplay the flint incident and then defend the governor?
Which liberal spoke up? The likes of jimmy kimmel, seth mayer etc were mum.
How many are speaking up for the victims of Epstein?
As soon as you identify yourself as a liberal or otherwise, you become a programmed zombie. The followers of diesel and khadim rizvi are buffoons, no better.
Your scale doesn't work on me so save your breath. I'm neither, I call a spade a spade.
Too much optimism leads to delusions and the opposite of it will make your own life miserable.
There is nothing to their political landscape to cheer about either.
Any sane person with a brain capable of having some degree of insight and foresight would hate to label himself as a liberal or anything.
 
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