Please stopping using word Lawatat.

jee_nee_us

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hazrat Loot PBUH Allah ke jalil ul qadar nabi thay aur aaj iss forum mein him iss had tak gir chukay hein ke bagher sochay samjhay word lawatat ka istemaal ker rehay hain ye sochay samjhay bagher ke Hazrat Loot AS ke naam ki tazlil ho rahee he.
Apne aap ko apni zaban ko qabu mein rakhain.
 
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Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Man we get up everyday thinking of new ways to get offended. It's like saying if there is a murderer and rapist by the name of Mohammed we cannot say anything bad to him because he is named after our beloved Prophet s.a.w. This reasonng is absolutely non-sensical.

The word Looti is a very common slur in the middle east and lot of other Arab countries. By this no one intends to slur any holy figure but it is understood to mean what it means.

So yeah can we stop getting offended all the time about everything?
 

arifkarim

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Premium Member
Hazrat Loot PBUH Allah ke jalil ul qadar nabi thay aur aaj iss forum mein him iss had tak gir chukay hein ke bagher sochay samjhay word lawatat ka istemaal ker rehay hain ye sochay samjhay bagher ke Hazrat Loot AS ke naam ki tazlil ho rahee he.
Apne aap ko apni zaban ko qabu mein rakhain.
Lawatat is not derived from prophet Lut but people of Lut
 

jee_nee_us

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Lawatat is not derived from prophet Lut but people of Lut
Why not use word sodomy instead?

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Man we get up everyday thinking of new ways to get offended. It's like saying if there is a murderer and rapist by the name of Mohammed we cannot say anything bad to him because he is named after our beloved Prophet s.a.w. This reasonng is absolutely non-sensical.

The word Looti is a very common slur in the middle east and lot of other Arab countries. By this no one intends to slur any holy figure but it is understood to mean what it means.

So yeah can we stop getting offended all the time about everything?
Wow thats new. A prophets name is being specifically associated with a disgusting thing and we are so happy to use it.

Why not call it what it is , hum jins parasti ya sodomy. Buhat asaani se kisi bhi cheez ko ignore nahin kia ja sakta.
 

Baadshaah

MPA (400+ posts)
لواطت اردو میں معروف مستعمل لفظ ہے۔ اور اس عمل میں ملوث مولوی کو لوطی مولوی کہا جاتا ہے۔۔ اس میں اعتراض کی کیا بات ہے؟ تم لوگوں کو غوروفکر کیلئے اور کوئی نکتہ نہیں ملتا کیا؟ اتنی بڑی وسیع کائنات میں غوروخوض کیلئے بے شمار چیزیں ہیں، ان پر دماغ لڑاؤ تاکہ تمہارے دماغ کا کچھ فائدہ تو ہو۔

ایک بندے کا میسج آیا وٹس ایپ پر کہ جی یہ جو وٹس ایپ کا ڈیفالٹ بیک گراؤنڈ ہے اس میں کتے کی چھوٹی سی تصویر ہے اور چونکہ وٹس ایپ پر گفت و شنید میں اللہ کا نام بھی آجاتا ہے تو اس لئے اس بیک گراؤنڈ کو بدل لیں تاکہ گستاخی سے بچا جاسکے۔۔ اندازہ کریں ان جاہل لوگوں کے اندازِ فکر کا۔۔ یہ دنیا کی پست ترین قوم کے رتبے پر ایسے ہی فائز نہیں ہوگئئے۔۔
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Why not use word sodomy instead?
Homosexuality and Sodomy are two different things


A prophets name is being specifically associated with a disgusting thing and we are so happy to use it.
I already gave you the example of the murderer and rapist and like I also said there is no intention to slur any holy personality.

Where does this slippery slope of getting offended at everything end?

And by your logic maybe we should stop using names like Adam, Nuh, Musa, Esa, Ibrahim, Saleh, Younus, Mohammed and similar. Because these were all Prophets of Allah s.w.t and try as we may we cannot even reach 0.0000001% the piety of these holy figures and of course we are all sinners so we are insulting all of them.

So where do we stop?
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Agar middle east mein bhi loge looti word use kerte hen to ghalat he
Dude the answer is simple, if you find it offensive then don't use it.

I'll give you an example. I had a south Indian ( malabari ) colleague who's name was Abu Bakr. Everybody made fun of the guy and his name. Called him Abu ____ker which in Arabic is not really offensive in the sense because Abu XYZ just means father of XYZ. But I would never partake in this because of my respect for the name of Abu Bakr r.a even though I knew full well the guys did not mean any respect towards this sacred personality.
 

Rambler

Minister (2k+ posts)
Homosexuality and Sodomy are two different things



I already gave you the example of the murderer and rapist and like I also said there is no intention to slur any holy personality.

Where does this slippery slope of getting offended at everything end?

And by your logic maybe we should stop using names like Adam, Nuh, Musa, Esa, Ibrahim, Saleh, Younus, Mohammed and similar. Because these were all Prophets of Allah s.w.t and try as we may we cannot even reach 0.0000001% the piety of these holy figures and of course we are all sinners so we are insulting all of them.

So where do we stop?

You stop when you see something inappropriate. It's common sense. Hazrat Luut (Lot) was a prophet - Does it require a very high IQ to not associate an abominable act with him. Your example is totally irrelevant in which a person by the same name of a prophet does something bad.

It is not a matter of taking offence. It just does not seem appropriate to derive a word for a disgusting act from the name of a Prophet.
 

Rambler

Minister (2k+ posts)
لواطت اردو میں معروف مستعمل لفظ ہے۔ اور اس عمل میں ملوث مولوی کو لوطی مولوی کہا جاتا ہے۔۔ اس میں اعتراض کی کیا بات ہے؟ تم لوگوں کو غوروفکر کیلئے اور کوئی نکتہ نہیں ملتا کیا؟ اتنی بڑی وسیع کائنات میں غوروخوض کیلئے بے شمار چیزیں ہیں، ان پر دماغ لڑاؤ تاکہ تمہارے دماغ کا کچھ فائدہ تو ہو۔

ایک بندے کا میسج آیا وٹس ایپ پر کہ جی یہ جو وٹس ایپ کا ڈیفالٹ بیک گراؤنڈ ہے اس میں کتے کی چھوٹی سی تصویر ہے اور چونکہ وٹس ایپ پر گفت و شنید میں اللہ کا نام بھی آجاتا ہے تو اس لئے اس بیک گراؤنڈ کو بدل لیں تاکہ گستاخی سے بچا جاسکے۔۔ اندازہ کریں ان جاہل لوگوں کے اندازِ فکر کا۔۔ یہ دنیا کی پست ترین قوم کے رتبے پر ایسے ہی فائز نہیں ہوگئئے۔۔

Tell me what high ideas you have been thinking about - How to get the most of digested Nihari from Nawaz's backside?

Amazing how Shah Dola's Rats try to behave intellectual.
 

Rambler

Minister (2k+ posts)
Thats exactly what I said, if you find it offensive then stop using it. Don't try to force your POV down other peoples throats.

OP has just raised an issue and no body is forcing it down anybody's throat. Even though I find it quite basic common sense to a reasonable mind but everybody's free to do what they like. I just gave a rebuttal to your arguments. People still believe Earth is flat (at the cost of marketing their stupidity) and no one can force them to believe otherwise.
 

samkhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
لواطت کا لفظ صرف پاکستان میں ہی استمعال کیا جاتا ہے. حالانکہ پاکستان میں لفظ 'بلاوت' استمعال ہونا چاہئے اس سے بلاول بھٹو کو خراج تحسین بھی پیش ہوجائیگا کیونکہ بلاول بھٹو بہت جلد اسلامی دنیا کہ پہلے گے مطلب گانڈو پرائم منسٹر بننے جارہے ہیں
 
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