The_Choice
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shahidsaqi
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ustaad badlo ya parhne ka tareeqa badlo... in ma se aik ya dono theek nae hai
Alpha Charlie
MPA (400+ posts)
JazakAllah Kher
May Allah SWT guide us to right path and
Accept the effort of Iqbal Salfi
Ameen
May Allah SWT guide us to right path and
Accept the effort of Iqbal Salfi
Ameen
khud ko musalmaan kehlwaane waalun ne khudaa ke bhaije huwe deen ka mazaaq banaa diya hai. For a detailed explanation of things about the quran and deen of islam see HERE and HERE
Stop attributing nonsense to Allah and his messenger in their names. The quran is consistent in its claims so start learning how to understand the quran properly by learning the right way of understanding the quran properly.
Think about the process how God created things including human beings. Not only that think also about how human beings learn things. Things were evolved from things including human beings. Human beings learn to be sensible by interacting with things as well as with each other in the provided universal environment.
Only when some human beings became capable of thinking at a higher level due to really bad life experiences with each other which forced them to look for external help God started sending them his guidance to teach them how to live in this world properly. Before this guidance whole of mankind lived worst than other animals due to being born without knowing a thing and trying to survive. This is how they ended up with a way of life based upon personal gains at the expense of each other.
This is what the quran talks about in the story of Aadam and Iblees ie about development and progress of humanity from that stage of existence to what it became thereafter due to guidance from God. God advised mankind to live by way of life based upon ensuring well being of each other with full help and support of each other as a proper human community. However people became divided because some decided to live as God advised them but others rejected the God advised way of life and continued living by way of life based upon personal gains at the expense of each other because they assumed due to their ignorance about reality of existence they have advantage over others so they have been taking advantages of the lesser fortunate always.
That struggle between two parties ie party of God and party of iblees continued always and is still there and will continue till deen of Allah becomes fully established worldwide by hands of mankind themselves after going through a lot bad life experiences by hands of each other and a lot of soul searching. Once deen of Allah becomes fully established in this world all will live by rule of law of God. This is the proper context of message in the quran. Deen of Allah will become established finally because mankind by then will have tried living by every way of life that will have come to their minds but all of them will have failed them badly in living as a single family that is at peace with itself which develops and progresses as fast as possible and prospers.
In the quranic context there is no room from religious nonsense and made up stories that cannot have any basis in reality. The quran is a book about actual facts and their proper explanations. Mullaans have turned the quran into a book of nonsense due to their ignorance and stupidities. Think about it, why God created people as babies knowing nothing at all and put them through the process of growth to struggle through? Moreover why he created things from each other instead of creating each and everything directly? Stupidity of mullaans is not only obvious in science and philosophy but in almost all walks of life. What do they really know about the ideology called deen of islam? What do they really know about ummah concept of deen of islam? What do they really know about politics, culture or economics in deen of islam? They have no real ideas about systems, structures, procedures and practices in deen of islam. They have no idea how all these things are interconnected perfectly in an inseparable way.
Deen of islam does not tell people all things in a fully worked out detail, that people must work out by themselves. Deen of islam to put it simply sets goals for humanity to accomplish and sets limits within which goals must be achieved. To achieve those goals and to work out ways to achieve them is left to people themselves. This is why people must educate themselves to be able to all that. Moreover things which God has left for people to do will only be done by people not God. It is because God created things and people according to his plan for his purpose. So waiting for God to do this or that or the other is not the teaching of the real deen of islam. Masaajid are supposed to be fully equipped places for carrying out God set tasks for mankind that is how they are supposed to be part of the God assigned mission.
Stop attributing nonsense to Allah and his messenger in their names. The quran is consistent in its claims so start learning how to understand the quran properly by learning the right way of understanding the quran properly.
Think about the process how God created things including human beings. Not only that think also about how human beings learn things. Things were evolved from things including human beings. Human beings learn to be sensible by interacting with things as well as with each other in the provided universal environment.
Only when some human beings became capable of thinking at a higher level due to really bad life experiences with each other which forced them to look for external help God started sending them his guidance to teach them how to live in this world properly. Before this guidance whole of mankind lived worst than other animals due to being born without knowing a thing and trying to survive. This is how they ended up with a way of life based upon personal gains at the expense of each other.
This is what the quran talks about in the story of Aadam and Iblees ie about development and progress of humanity from that stage of existence to what it became thereafter due to guidance from God. God advised mankind to live by way of life based upon ensuring well being of each other with full help and support of each other as a proper human community. However people became divided because some decided to live as God advised them but others rejected the God advised way of life and continued living by way of life based upon personal gains at the expense of each other because they assumed due to their ignorance about reality of existence they have advantage over others so they have been taking advantages of the lesser fortunate always.
That struggle between two parties ie party of God and party of iblees continued always and is still there and will continue till deen of Allah becomes fully established worldwide by hands of mankind themselves after going through a lot bad life experiences by hands of each other and a lot of soul searching. Once deen of Allah becomes fully established in this world all will live by rule of law of God. This is the proper context of message in the quran. Deen of Allah will become established finally because mankind by then will have tried living by every way of life that will have come to their minds but all of them will have failed them badly in living as a single family that is at peace with itself which develops and progresses as fast as possible and prospers.
In the quranic context there is no room from religious nonsense and made up stories that cannot have any basis in reality. The quran is a book about actual facts and their proper explanations. Mullaans have turned the quran into a book of nonsense due to their ignorance and stupidities. Think about it, why God created people as babies knowing nothing at all and put them through the process of growth to struggle through? Moreover why he created things from each other instead of creating each and everything directly? Stupidity of mullaans is not only obvious in science and philosophy but in almost all walks of life. What do they really know about the ideology called deen of islam? What do they really know about ummah concept of deen of islam? What do they really know about politics, culture or economics in deen of islam? They have no real ideas about systems, structures, procedures and practices in deen of islam. They have no idea how all these things are interconnected perfectly in an inseparable way.
Deen of islam does not tell people all things in a fully worked out detail, that people must work out by themselves. Deen of islam to put it simply sets goals for humanity to accomplish and sets limits within which goals must be achieved. To achieve those goals and to work out ways to achieve them is left to people themselves. This is why people must educate themselves to be able to all that. Moreover things which God has left for people to do will only be done by people not God. It is because God created things and people according to his plan for his purpose. So waiting for God to do this or that or the other is not the teaching of the real deen of islam. Masaajid are supposed to be fully equipped places for carrying out God set tasks for mankind that is how they are supposed to be part of the God assigned mission.
azeezan the choice sb, ye bhai sb to bahot hi ziyaada bebunyaad baatun main phanse huwe hen. ye deene islam ki her saaf baat ko ujhaa ker pesh ker rahe hen. kia aap itne naasamajh hen keh aap 2+2=4 nahin samajh sakte? kyun aap aise naadaan logoon ki baaten share ker ke deene islam ko islam hi ke naam per badnaam ker rahe hen? baraaye mehrbaani apne afaaro nazriyaat per nazarsaani karen.
regards and all the best.
