Paradigm Shift

Birinci Ferik

Voter (50+ posts)
Hahahahahahahahaha

Itni oonchi mat choro please
F16 downed the mig... American technology did 99% of the job, yeh brilliant mind of Pakisan kidher sai aagaya.. thora sa kam please
Thats the "script" Pro-West pseudo professionals wants to bring into the picture. Here I would refer to the out-cry by the US claiming that Stinger (SAM) and US suport played vital and decisive role in Russian retreat from Afghanistan. What happend to their all arsenal wen they invaded Afghanistan with at least 45 countries including NATO.

Actually West cant accept and wont ever accept our supermacy.
 

disgusted

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This was a miracle of Allah. No JF-17 or F16 or whatever will protect Pakistan until and unless Allah will's.
If we try to go away from the path of Allah, even the stealth would not be able to save the honor of Pakistan. These technologies are of course important but what the decider is, is not having greater technology.

See the example in our neighbourhood. It was un-imaginable.
We had aging Sabres against MiG-21 on the western front in 1971. Although we also had other aircraftt also but it was not the Sabres ability but our pilots' faith in Allah that gave them the bravado and confidence that they were remarkable. We put our faith in technology and often then regret our lapse in the faith which gives victory which is faith in the power of the Creator. Afghans proved this and US and it's 40 allies are still wondering what happened. The Battle of Badr and the 313 faithful is the first example.
 

Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Russia fighters are far inferior to what the west has.Even China has better fighter jets than Russia.The Indians know this that is why they are buying French Rafales.A Russia SU-24M attack plane was shot by Turkish F-16 within minutes when it entered Turkish airspace in 2015.There is a lot of hype about Su-30.Not many countries buy Russia fighter planes so Russia often exaggerates the capability of its planes.
 

fawad ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I know the Commanding officer of F16 in Pakistan. He is the one who sent those pilots. Ab ziada detail na poochna coz i cant share it here.
 

Eigle

Senator (1k+ posts)
This was a miracle of Allah. No JF-17 or F16 or whatever will protect Pakistan until and unless Allah will's.
If we try to go away from the path of Allah, even the stealth would not be able to save the honor of Pakistan. These technologies are of course important but what the decider is, is not having greater technology.

See the example in our neighbourhood. It was un-imaginable.
Yes nothing can be done but with Allah SWT will.
Allah command to be prepare to avoid war.
What was the reason which hold back indians form aggression?
 

tahirkheli74

MPA (400+ posts)
PAF took down two IAF planes and that's the bottom line. Tumhara Baap Rifle se marey ya machine Gun say, would it make any difference to you?
bhai jan ap mojh par tanz kar rahay hain ya jis ne original post ki hai oss ko jawab de rahay hain??? ....
 

jani1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I know the Commanding officer of F16 in Pakistan. He is the one who sent those pilots. Ab ziada detail na poochna coz i cant share it here.

آئی ایم ناٹ سپوز ٹو ٹیل یو دیٹ۔۔۔
واہ رے چُنے۔۔تیری چلاکیاں۔۔۔

 

Khan125

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The PAF may not have intended for it to have happened like it did---but the results of that day's---day light strike and skirmish over kashmir has many a powers shook up---concerned---and looking for answers---answers that may not be easy to find and consequences no easy to confront---.

The first major combat of two equally well equipped air forces of the world has some shocking results for the major powers to analyze and assess---.

The myth of the Israeli / French / Russian technology on one side---and on the other side---Chinese technology with ruthless and brutally efficient PAF brains behind that technology in operation.

The PAF ---after living all thru those years on sanctions---and as Air Marshall Latif quoted Gen Mushhy " we went with pockets full of money and no one would sell us the fighter aircraft---"---the PAF had a grudge against the claimed powers to be---they were mad as hell---mad as a hornets nest disturbed in the dark of the night---continuously being blamed for every wrong that was done in India by the Indians themselves on their own---.

The Indians came by choice---at a time and place of their choosing---openly threatening the Pakistan military---and yet they had to trun tail.

In return---Pakistan's response of retaliation at a time and place of their own choosing was not taken seriously---and there were many who had reservations about it---.

But when Pakistan struck back---the strike was made in the light of the day---for the world and the public to see---it was masterful---it was tactful---it was ruthless and it was brutal---.

Nobody in the world---no military power in the world expected that kind of retaliation by the pak military---.

And as they say---" success has many fathers---and defeat is an orphan---"---suddenly the Indian air force felt like it had been orphaned by its very own---. Indian Prime minister after reviewing the losses---had the realization dawn on him that his aircraft were not capable of defending the motherland until and unless he did not have the most modern Rafales---.


that was just one small part of the picture---. The bigger and the larger part of the picture was the Pakistan / China fighter / China EW package and china weapons broke the spell of the modern Israeli / Russian / French EW package---made it go to sleep and spun their own magic in Chinese and Pakistani and made the enemy fall from the skies---.

This was unexpected---was not a part of the picture---was not supposed to happen---was not allowed to happen---but it did---.

The unexpected successful exposure of the unknown newer weaponry into the air combat field by the PAFhas had an eye popping effect in many a leading nations of the world---. The weapons system that was known to be below par and docile turned out to be a monster---.

I would not be surprised if mother China was equally surprised by the effectiveness of its weapons---
Vert well written. Is it copied? If not, i would like you to think about regularly writing such articles.
 

FarrukhCH

Councller (250+ posts)
JF-17 shot down Mig (which is called a flying coffin)

It was not the defeat of old tech from the hands of more modern tech. And IAF was idot that it sent Migs to fight JF-17

As far as Russian tech is concerned then please keep in mind that JF-17 has russian engine.