PAF is Getting Mirage 5 Aircraft from Egypt

naveed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


Alan Warne from Asian Military Review has revealed on Twitter that PAF is getting a batch of Mirage 5 (or Mirage V) fighter aircraft from the Egyptian Air force. He tweeted:


He interviewed the PAF Chief ACM Mujahid Anwar Khan on Wednesday at Air Head Quarters Islamabad.

PAF’s JF-17 Block 3 and the dogfight of 27th February came under discussion during the meeting. He also tweeted about the downing of SU-30MKI and the MI-17 helicopter shot down by IAF itself


Alan Warne is a military aviation enthusiast and has traveled more than 60 countries to experience diverse cultures. He is a regular visitor of Pakistan and has written two books about PAF as well.

Why are The Mirages so Important to PAF

Mirage 5 is a supersonic attack fighter aircraft manufactured by French Company Dassault Aviation. It was developed from Dassault Mirage III in the late 1960s. It’s a single jet aircraft with a delta wing design and can carry a maximum load of 4000 kg.

PAF’s Mirage fleet consists of 90 Mirage III and 90 Mirage-5 aircraft for interceptor and attack roles respectively. PAF modernized its Mirage jets in an MLU (Mid Life Upgrade) program named Project ROSE (Retro Fit of Strike Element) at Aeronautical Complex in Kamra. Some of the birds have been modified to carry out night missions and carry other sophisticated systems like Forward-looking infrared (FLIR) imaging sensors and an integrated Electronic Warfare suite.

Pakistan Navy also operates specially upgraded Mirage aircraft for its maritime missions, equipped with French-made Exocet anti-Ship Missiles. The procured Egyptian Mirages will be utilized for the maintenance of airframes and spares for the existing fleet. These jets were also modernized under the Egyptian Horus Program around 2010. Some of the jets may even become operational after inspection and review by the PAFs engineering wing.

Although Mirage is an old aircraft, it’s still better in terms of range and weapons load as compared to the JF-17 and thus PAF wants them to remain operational as long as it can.

 
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hawkinthesky111

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mirage 5 is better than JF17 ? Did I read that correct ?
as is aid earlier uranay walay ki baat hai.. jet tu jet hota hai...
i duno if its better or not but i believe the heads of my PAF .. if they r buying this jet im sure there would be some good reason...
may be the pilots who already had a taste of flying rafeal in Qatar told them that there is no difference between mirage 5 and rafael.. just branding LOL...
 

Nadir Bashir

Senator (1k+ posts)
Mirage 5 is better than JF17 ? Did I read that correct ?
Every plane has mission advantages and disadvantages...................Mirage V is a typical aircraft designed for attack purposes....................What i understand that PAF wants to keep its mirage fleet operational until JF-17 Block III is available or project azm produce some good results for PAF...............................Secondly PAF wants these planes for spare parts only which might not be available in the market anymore since france might have stopped producing anymore mirage IIIs or Vs...........................

Also PAF must upgrade mirages and all of its aircrafts not subject to end to end user agreements with chinese radar avoiding synthetic coating for deep penetration.................................
 

hawkinthesky111

Minister (2k+ posts)
Every plane has mission advantages and disadvantages...................Mirage V is a typical aircraft designed for attack purposes....................What i understand that PAF wants to keep its mirage fleet operational until JF-17 Block III is available or project azm produce some good results for PAF...............................Secondly PAF wants these planes for spare parts only which might not be available in the market anymore since france might have stopped producing anymore mirage IIIs or Vs...........................

Also PAF must upgrade mirages and all of its aircrafts not subject to end to end user agreements with chinese radar avoiding synthetic coating for deep penetration.................................
true.. thats why i said let them do what they r doing. they are the best to decide...
im sure they r having somthing in mind....
 

insouciant

Minister (2k+ posts)
No, you didn't. There is no single Jet that has BEST specification on every measure. Because of Engineering limitations, there are always trade-offs. JF-17 is a Light combat aircraft perfect for interceptions, escorts and dog-fights. But if you want to Nuke Delhi, you'll use Mirage V. Clear?

Mirage 5 is better than JF17 ? Did I read that correct ?
 

hawkinthesky111

Minister (2k+ posts)
No, you didn't. There is no single Jet that has BEST specification on every measure. Because of Engineering limitations, there are always trade-offs. JF-17 is a Light combat aircraft perfect for interceptions, escorts and dog-fights. But if you want to Nuke Delhi, you'll use Mirage V. Clear?
lol i dunno about the technicalities. good info...
 

insouciant

Minister (2k+ posts)
Problem with India is that they prefer buying new jets because every new Jet purchase means more commission for politicians. So they don't MAINTAIN their jets too to justify new purchase! Rafael will be good as long as their first maintenance comes due!

Infront of Rafel aircraft Miraj is nothing
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Not all 4th gen and 5th gen fighters are the same. It’s not a very descriptive classification. Rafale is much more advance fighter compared to SU30. Head to head Rafale will destroy SU30 in combat.

You didn't get my point. How come they both are the same Gen. then if one is better than the other. They must balance each other overall for it to happen!
 

ARSHAD2011

MPA (400+ posts)
but its old one
The Dassault Mirage 5 is a supersonic attack aircraft designed in France by Dassault Aviation during the 1960s and manufactured in France and a number of other countries. It was derived from Dassault's popular Mirage III fighter and spawned several variants of its own,
 
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