My two cents on Sugar scandal - What are your thoughts?

Adnan Amjad

Senator (1k+ posts)
*Sugar Barons have made a remarkable name when it comes to making & minting money, advancing in & controlling politics, expanding empires, buying assets overseas and ensured their interests are commonly shielded and mutually beneficial. From Sharifs to Zardari, from Tareens to Makhdooms, from Khans to Chaudharies, they have all been in the same boat, or Yacht to be more precise, and no matter what the regime their power has been unflinching and unquestioned.

They were not alone as this smooth journey was only made possible by adequate and timely support by the judiciary, media and bureaucracy. There were obviously no free lunches.* *The current report/findings are undoubtedly a brave and daring step and must be appreciated and applied. Game plan by _the accused_ will be to hire expensive and hi-wired lawyers, find a suitable court, malign the report, spend lavishly on media and put a halt to any action by any authority.

The stage is set and they are likely to succeed.* *Irrespective of the outcome of sugar scandal report’s findings, if just two objectives are met, it would be a victory for our Nation. First, growers and farmers who’s blood and sweat has gone into enriching these few must not bleed further and get an equitable and fair share of their inputs and hard work. Second the consumers of Pakistan should not be fleeced by expensive sugar and it should be made available at reasonable prices throughout the year, like wheat and rice.* *The looted money should be recovered which seems a long drawn process but at least the above two objectives are met as a priority.*
 
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ARSHAD2011

Minister (2k+ posts)
PM is doing a very good job may Allah give him more strength. ??? Ameen.

Just one point wants to add, PMIK should change the history this time only punished the beneficiary also punished who took this decision. After an export of the handsome quantity, the sugar price increase in Pakistan so people paid more price and again sugar mills making more profit.
 

CAPTAIN SOLO

MPA (400+ posts)
I think trials and enquiry's should be public. All crimes areagainst the people of Pakistan. put everything on TV. and the people will know if judges or NAB are incompetant.
 

2hopeful

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Every body on media is spending time discusing govt role and wants some heads to roll.
No one is asking sugar barons if the facts stated in the report are correct or not.
1. 68% sugar was exported by their documents. Where as Afganistan says imported 30 and they say 40000. No proper record of payments some recd by fake TTs from Dubai USA UK
2 According to their document showing trucks numbers and certified by customs at border trucks that could only carry 15 tons was carrying 70 tons. How is that possible.
3. Mills investigated so far have increased their manufacturing capacity with out permission by 20 to 65%. In JKT case equals to 6 extra sugar mills.
4. Billions of sugar sold to minos working for them such as drivers clerks etc
5. Sugar cane they say they used to produce sugar is 30% less then what was produced What happend to it.
6. Why some of them keeping two records one for reporting (understated) one factual.
All attention is being paid to JKT. The fact is commission has looked into 9 mills and has suggested that all 88 mills should be investigated.
The answers to above questions are more important then diverting people attention to politics Why JKT being targeted why others are not. Report only mentions Companies that own sugar mills not their share holders. The cases will be against companies and their directors who have been signing various documents. Empolyees of State Bank FBR Customs and other govt department who helped then to carry out fraud will also face the music.
Media shoud be naming and shaming people indulge in this scam and made billions rather then on politics.
 

ahameed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PM is doing a very good job may Allah give him more strength. ??? Ameen.

Just one point wants to add, PMIK should change the history this time only punished the beneficiary also punished who took this decision. After an export of the handsome quantity, the sugar price increase in Pakistan so people paid more price and again sugar mills making more profit.
پاکستان کی سالانہ کھپت 52 ملین میٹرک ٹن ھے جبکہ ایکسپورٹ کرنے کے بعد بھی 70 ملین میٹرک ٹن چینی موجود تھی