JF-17 Manufacturer's Stock Soars After Pakistan Air Force's Success Against India

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
Squadron Leader Hasan Siddiqui of Pakistan Air Force (PAF), flying a Pakistan-made JF-17 Block 2 serial 15-201 fighter jet, shot down Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman of Indian Air Force (IAF) flying a Russia made MiG 21. Abhinandan was captured by Pakistan last week. The news has boosted the stock price of CAC (Chengdu Aircraft Corporation) which jointly developed JF-17 Thunder with Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC).

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JF-17 Thunder Fighter:

The development of JF-17, a modern highly capable and relatively inexpensive fighter jet, is the crowning achievement to-date of the Pakistan-China defense production cooperation. It's being deployed by Pakistan Air Force with Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC). The latest version is capable of launching a variety of nuclear and conventional weapons ranging from smart bombs and air-launched cruise missile Raad to anti-ship missiles.

Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) got its start decades ago by setting up maintenance facilities for advanced fighters like French Mirage and US F-16s and by manufacturing Mushshak and Super Mushshak trainer aircraft. It is now also building JF-17s as well as a variety of drones, including combat UAV Burraq being used in Pakistan's war against militants in Waziristan.

India-Pakistan Aerial Combat:

Squadron Leader Hasan Siddiqui of Pakistan Air Force (PAF), flying a Pakistan-made JF-17 Block 2 serial 15-201 fighter jet, shot down Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman of Indian Air Force (IAF) flying a Russia made MiG 21. Abhinandan was captured by Pakistan last week.

Indian officials have confirmed the loss of IAF's MiG 21, acknowledging that MiG-21 Bison, Su-30MKI and Mirage 2000 aircraft were all scrambled to head off the PAF strike squadrons over Kashmir.

The confirmation that JF-17 Thunder was used in successful aerial combat came in a tweet from Retired PAF Air Marshal Shahid Latif who tweeted: "Proud to announce, I was project director for JF-17 Thunder program jointly produced by Pakistan and China during the [2001-2008] tenure of general Pervez Musharraf. Today, same jets targeted and shot down Indian jets which entered Pakistani airspace."

Stock Market Reaction:

Within hours of the Pakistan Air Marshall's tweet, the publicly traded shares of Shenzhen-listed Sichuan Chengfei Integration Technology (CAC-SCIT), a sister company of JF-17 maker Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC), rose 10% five minutes on Wednesday - hitting the maximum daily increase allowed on the Chinese stock market, according to the South China Morning Post. The shares in CAC-SCIT, which makes car parts, rose a further 10% on Thursday. CAC is not publicly listed. CAC-SCIT shares had dropped back 5.57% by midday on Friday.

JF-17 Export Potential:

The JF-17 recently won an export order from Nigeria. Next possible customer is Myanmar where JF-17 was recently seen in an air force parade. The New York Times has reported that a joint China-Pakistan defense manufacturing hubs in Pakistan is being set up to win new export customers among Muslim countries. Pakistan is already in talks with Malaysia for sale of JF-17s to Malaysian Air Force. There is potential to export close to a billion dollars worth of JF-17 Thunders.

PAF's Tail Choppers:

Squadron Leader Hasan Siddiqui is a member of PAF's 14 Squadron called ‘Tail Choppers’ which was officially re-equipped with Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) JF-17 fighters on February 16, 2017, according to AirForces Monthly magazine. Here's an excerpt from the magazine:

"The initial batch of 16 JF-17s replaced some of the last remaining Chengdu F-7Ps that had been in service with the ‘Tail Choppers’ at PAF Base Minhas. The ‘Tail Choppers’ became the fifth PAF squadron to operate the type after 26 Squadron ‘Black Spiders’, 16 Squadron ‘Black Panthers’, the Combat Commanders School, and 2 Squadron ‘Minhas’. The squadron was the second to re-equip with Block 2 aircraft. However, it the first to fly the Block 2 operationally with the air-to-air refuelling probe fitted. On June 19, 2017, a JF-17 shot down an Iranian reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) over Panjgur, Balochistan, 28 miles (45km) inside Pakistani territory."

Summary:

Confirmation that PAF's Squadron Leader Hasan Siddiqui flying JF-17 Block 2 shot down an Indian fighter jet has boosted investor interest in the aircraft with double digit percentage increase in CAC's share price. It is likely to boost Pakistan's exports of this fighter jet to Nigeria, Myanmar and Malaysia.

Here's a music video featuring Squadron Leader Hasan Siddiqui:


https://www.southasiainvestor.com/2019/03/jf-17-manufacturers-stock-soars-after.html
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Just FYI the serial number of Hassan's JF-17 15-201 means that it was produced in 2015, its a block 2 and its the first one to be produced that year.

The JF-17 in the picture serial number 09-112 means that it was produced in 2009, its block 1 and its the 12th unit to be produced that year.
 

Shahid Abassi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Just FYI the serial number of Hassan's JF-17 15-201 means that it was produced in 2015, its a block 2 and its the first one to be produced that year.

The JF-17 in the picture serial number 09-112 means that it was produced in 2009, its block 1 and its the 12th unit to be produced that year.
As the time passes and India gets hold of Rafale, where do we stand then with these JF17s?
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We can only use them against Rafale & Su30 if they are used with Awac support as the Rafale is 4.5gen and uses AESA radar and both neither jf-17 nor F-16 has that radar, both being 4th gen fighters.

Jf-17 block 3 will be 4.5 gen and have AESA radar and will be a better match for Rafale on its own (defensively). But Rafale will perform better in offensive role as it has more engine power, greater range and payload. Its more expensive as well.

After block 3 PAF is acquiring J-31 5th gen stealth fighter jet. Neither Rafale nor Su-30 can compete with J-31.

As the time passes and India gets hold of Rafale, where do we stand then with these JF17s?
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
always great to see military industrial complex getting richer off of more violence, war and instability.
 

Nadir Bashir

Minister (2k+ posts)
Rafale has certain advantages over JF-17 or F-16. We need to upgrade JF-17.

I think we must not rely on America for our defence. All aging F-16 must be replaced by Chinese J-31 or J-21 or some other customer built platforms........................It will give a clear signal to America.

In any case, America is offering F-21 to India which is just an advanced Block of F-16. It means we are not going to get F-16 any further and even we shall not be interested in it........
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
f-16 is a waste of money... world is moving to 5th gen fighters, all these 4th gen fighters will be out dated in 10-15 years like mig 21s are outdated today.

Rafale has certain advantages over JF-17 or F-16. We need to upgrade JF-17.

I think we must not rely on America for our defence. All aging F-16 must be replaced by Chinese J-31 or J-21 or some other customer built platforms........................It will give a clear signal to America.

In any case, America is offering F-21 to India which is just an advanced Block of F-16. It means we are not going to get F-16 any further and even we shall not be interested in it........
 

Nadir Bashir

Minister (2k+ posts)
f-16 is a waste of money... world is moving to 5th gen fighters, all these 4th gen fighters will be out dated in 10-15 years like mig 21s are outdated today.

I agree......Thats why our government did not agree to pay full for 08 planes when we have some better or compatible replacement..............
But we should be ready...................We shall be looking towards PL-15 as Mateor will provide India with some certain advantages....................Also AWACS capabilities need to be enhanced with Meteor in operation...............But professionals know better
 
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بگ باس

MPA (400+ posts)
او پائی جی۔۔۔ میک 1.6 میک 1.8 ۔۔۔ فورتھ جنریش ففتھ جنریشن۔۔۔ دو انجن والا جہاز چھ انجن والا جہاز یہ سب دنیاوی باتیں ہیں یہاں سوزوکی خیبر ہونڈا سِوک کو ساتھ نہی لگنے دیتی ۔۔۔ نہی یقین تو یو ٹیوب پہ دیکھ لیں

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RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
After #India Loses Dogfight to #Pakistan, Questions Arise About Its #Military. Its loss of a plane last week to a country whose military is about half the size and receives a quarter of the funding is telling. #Kashmir #PakistanStrikesBack https://nyti.ms/2VwWjmz

India’s armed forces are in alarming shape.

It was an inauspicious moment for a military the United States is banking on to help keep an expanding China in check.

An Indian Air Force pilot found himself in a dogfight last week with a warplane from the Pakistani Air Force, and ended up a prisoner behind enemy lines for a brief time.

The pilot made it home in one piece, however bruised and shaken, but the plane, an aging Soviet-era MiG-21, was less lucky.

The aerial clash, the first by the South Asian rivals in nearly five decades, was a rare test for the Indian military — and it left observers a bit dumbfounded. While the challenges faced by the India’s armed forces are no secret, its loss of a plane last week to a country whose military is about half the size and receives a quarter of the funding was still telling.

India’s armed forces are in alarming shape.

If intense warfare broke out tomorrow, India could supply its troops with only 10 days of ammunition, according to government estimates. And 68 percent of the army’s equipment is so old, it is officially considered “vintage.”

“Our troops lack modern equipment, but they have to conduct 21st-century military operations,” said Gaurav Gogoi, a lawmaker and member of the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defense.

American officials tasked with strengthening the alliance talk about their mission with frustration: a swollen bureaucracy makes arms sales and joint training exercises cumbersome; Indian forces are vastly underfunded; and the country’s navy, army and air force tend to compete rather than work together.

Whatever the problems, the United States is determined to make the country a key ally in the coming years to hedge against China’s growing regional ambition.

Last year, when Defense Secretary Jim Mattis announced that the Pentagon was renaming its Pacific Command — to Indo-Pacific — he emphasized India’s importance in a shifting world order.
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
News from India: Pakistan eyes 62 JF-17 jets from China as Rafale dogfight continues in India

While the Indian Air Force requires a total of 126 new Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) plane, it will only be getting 36 Rafale jets by 2020.




While the opposition is targeting the NDA government on the Rafal fighter plane deal, neighbouring Pakistan is engaged in taking full advantage of the opportunity. The Pakistani government has approached China to make the JF-17 (Block 3) Jet fighter plane available for the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) as soon as possible.

According to the Indian Air Force (IAF) intelligence report accessed by Zee News, the Pakistani Air Force is in the process of adding 62 JF-17 jets before India gets the 36 Rafale jets . As per the agreement with Dassault Aviation of France, the delivery of Rafale jets will commence from 2020.

Pakistan's JF-17 is a Multi Combat Aircraft which is jointly developed by Pakistan's Aeronautical Complex and China's Chengdu Aircraft Corporation. The Pakistani government is keen to induct most advanced version of JF-17 series -- the new JF-17 Block-3 -- to make its air force match its Indian counterpart.