Jamaet-e-Islami is unpopular, Conservative , scared party & it always stand with establishment :- Mo
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Afaq Chaudhry
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
In this country only seculars are popular,what a logic,he is not feeling shame as a muslim.
This is the mentality of Pakistani journalists, and they will change Pakistan with their western visions.
They feel shame talking about Islam as a Deen, as a way of Life.
This is the mentality of Pakistani journalists, and they will change Pakistan with their western visions.
They feel shame talking about Islam as a Deen, as a way of Life.
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Afaq Chaudhry
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Afaq Chaudhry
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اور تحریک انصاف نے گدھے پر لائینیں لگا کر اس کو زیبرا سمجھ لیا ہے ،بلکہ ثابت کر دیا ہے
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ConcernedPaki
Minister (2k+ posts)
اگر جماعت اسلامی حقیقی طور پہ اسلام کا نفاذ چاہتی تو اسے ضرور عوامی حمایت حاصل ہوتی- مگر یہ جماعت تو کئی دہایوں سے اسلام کے نام پر معصوم لوگوں کو بیوقوف بنا رہی ہے- فکر نہ کرو جب تک ہم جیسے آرٹیکل ٦٢ ٦٣ پر پورا نہ اترنے والے عام پاکستانی موجود ہیں جماعت اسلامی بس ملین مارچ ہی کرتی رہے گی اور اقتدار کے لئے تڑپتی رہے گی- میں نے پہلے بھی کہا تھا کہ سراج الحق وکٹ کے دونوں طرف کھیلنا والا انسان ہے- آج ہو بہو وہی بات عمران کہ رہا ہے باوجود اس کے کہ وہ جماعت اسلامی کے لئے نرم گوشہ رکھتا ہے
Believer12
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
موید پیرزادہ بالکل ٹھیک کہہ رہا ہے جماعت اسلامی سرحد میں جس شاخ پر بیٹھی ہوئی ہے اسی کو کاٹ رہی ہے عمران کے خلاف بیان دینے کے بعد اس بیان سے مکر جانا لیکن اخبار کے خلاف کوی لیگل سٹیپ نہ لینا اس بات کی عکاسی کرتا ہے کہ امیر جماعت نے یو ٹرن لیا ہے
لوگوں کو معلوم ہے کہ دین کے نام پر ووٹ لینے والے ہمیشہ اپنے مفاد کی سیاست کرتے ہیں
لوگوں کو معلوم ہے کہ دین کے نام پر ووٹ لینے والے ہمیشہ اپنے مفاد کی سیاست کرتے ہیں
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Mansoor964
Voter (50+ posts)
In dono ko waisay he JI fobia ho gaya hai ,,,,, imran khan ko agar waqe election reforms karni the to army cheif k granter honay par kar daitay ,,,,,,, i support imran khan but not sheikh rasheed or mehmood qureshi or other chamchay.
Believer12
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is also apply on Jammat Islami.
Pakistani to the core
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
i have to agree with what Moeed is saying; that JI is a conservative old timer and it can NOT stand beside Imran Khan.
However, considering the "self-proclaimed" intellectual that Moeed Pirzada is, he thinks that all the youth of Pakistan (which Moeed claims are 65% and are supporting IK) - are behind PTI, which is entirely untrue. The young generation that is supporting him is more selfish than the youth of the previous generation. Yes PTI has played a good role in creating Political awareness in the masses; however, contrary to the beliefs of PTI supporters, they are not the only ones who have played this role. Media's role for such awareness is greater than that of PTI. The same educated young class of Pakistanis also understand that Imran Khan's rigidity is the reason why PTI will ultimately fail in the face of the status quo. In order to bring about change, you have to adopt change first, and then organize, and then train your party members, strengthen them emotionally, morally, patriotically and ideologically.
PTI may have made good statements about change, but it is in no way capable of bringing about change through the persistence of one man. This man may be genuine in his thoughts, statements and imagination, however, his lack of vision shows by the people he has chosen as advisers of the core committee, who at best are unable to bring PTI out of the quagmire it has jumped in to. Remaining in denial of realities and rejecting everyone shows that PTI is headed on a path of self-destruction. Throwing out MNAs, disgracing the ex Party President for his differences with the party, throwing out an MPA, and putting the entire party's political future at stake is what its leadership has been able to do at best. If this was the only path IK believes would bring about change, then he should have remained outside the Political circles of Pakistan. Once you form a "Political" Party, you become a part of the same status quo that you wish to change. Imran Khan has turned his Political force into a personal pressure group which has to function by his will or will cease to exist. The misadventures that IK has led his party through are not only deplorable but are condemnable as well.
He has exhausted "Political funding" of the party to a major extent, and after speaking to overseas PTI supporters, I can see regret and desperation creeping up into their high hopes in Imran Khan, and they have realized themselves that bringing about a short-cut-change is not really as simple as it sounds, especially when you have greatly underestimated your "Political" opponents. and last but not the least, when PTI is seeing that it has lost the glory that it had in the few early days of the Azadi march with Tahir ul Qadri the great, it has started to blame JI for its failures - typical side effects.... A bad work man, blames his tools. But a bad politician, has to blame his only political alliance for the heat that he is facing. In order to survive in the political arena of Pakistan, you need to be either ideologically strong, or else you have to be financially strong. Unfortunately, PTI lacks ideology, and financially they're exhausted. Only a miracle, like IK falling off a fork-lift or falling of the stage and breaking a bone or two might save him some face. otherwise, he will no longer remain a Politician. Instead, he'll have to join TTP as a rebel.
However, considering the "self-proclaimed" intellectual that Moeed Pirzada is, he thinks that all the youth of Pakistan (which Moeed claims are 65% and are supporting IK) - are behind PTI, which is entirely untrue. The young generation that is supporting him is more selfish than the youth of the previous generation. Yes PTI has played a good role in creating Political awareness in the masses; however, contrary to the beliefs of PTI supporters, they are not the only ones who have played this role. Media's role for such awareness is greater than that of PTI. The same educated young class of Pakistanis also understand that Imran Khan's rigidity is the reason why PTI will ultimately fail in the face of the status quo. In order to bring about change, you have to adopt change first, and then organize, and then train your party members, strengthen them emotionally, morally, patriotically and ideologically.
PTI may have made good statements about change, but it is in no way capable of bringing about change through the persistence of one man. This man may be genuine in his thoughts, statements and imagination, however, his lack of vision shows by the people he has chosen as advisers of the core committee, who at best are unable to bring PTI out of the quagmire it has jumped in to. Remaining in denial of realities and rejecting everyone shows that PTI is headed on a path of self-destruction. Throwing out MNAs, disgracing the ex Party President for his differences with the party, throwing out an MPA, and putting the entire party's political future at stake is what its leadership has been able to do at best. If this was the only path IK believes would bring about change, then he should have remained outside the Political circles of Pakistan. Once you form a "Political" Party, you become a part of the same status quo that you wish to change. Imran Khan has turned his Political force into a personal pressure group which has to function by his will or will cease to exist. The misadventures that IK has led his party through are not only deplorable but are condemnable as well.
He has exhausted "Political funding" of the party to a major extent, and after speaking to overseas PTI supporters, I can see regret and desperation creeping up into their high hopes in Imran Khan, and they have realized themselves that bringing about a short-cut-change is not really as simple as it sounds, especially when you have greatly underestimated your "Political" opponents. and last but not the least, when PTI is seeing that it has lost the glory that it had in the few early days of the Azadi march with Tahir ul Qadri the great, it has started to blame JI for its failures - typical side effects.... A bad work man, blames his tools. But a bad politician, has to blame his only political alliance for the heat that he is facing. In order to survive in the political arena of Pakistan, you need to be either ideologically strong, or else you have to be financially strong. Unfortunately, PTI lacks ideology, and financially they're exhausted. Only a miracle, like IK falling off a fork-lift or falling of the stage and breaking a bone or two might save him some face. otherwise, he will no longer remain a Politician. Instead, he'll have to join TTP as a rebel.
Pakistani to the core
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
a. I have checked in the media. Nowhere has Siraj said what DAWN has alleged he said. And therefore accusing him of a U-turn is simply hypocrisy.
b. JI is not cutting the branch that they're sitting on. Imran Khan has been doing it himself. He's the one finishing off whatever is left of PTI.
c. since you're a PTI supporter, its only natural you will reject anyone and anything against PTI. So I don't expect common sense any way.
Pakistani to the core
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
btw, i dare every PTI supporter on the forum to justify why PTI has been deliberately delaying NA resignations...
Afaq Chaudhry
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Afaq Chaudhry
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yes , you have proved yourself after this comment, this is the real mentality, and main hurdle not applying Islam in our lives. and Moeed Peerzada is one of them, al least he should not call himself Peerzada....better Deen-bezarzada.
Res1Pect
Minister (2k+ posts)
Jamat Islami is not ISALMI at all...Their ghunda grdi in universities is not a secret. I've been saying this since the start of Dhrna that JI is not reliable at all. They are 'dead in Pakistan Politics' and got some 'life' by joining hands with PTI. However, they showed their 'Black Ingratitude' and tried to stab PTI in the back. By doing so, they themselves committed a suicide, and are completely dead in Politics insha Allah.
desan
President (40k+ posts)
Afaq Chaudhry
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
desan
President (40k+ posts)
No amount of justification will quench your thirst...
Now, go and try to convince Fake Speaker and PM to take the bold step of accepting PTI resignation.
Saeed4Truth
Minister (2k+ posts)
Caudhry sahab plz apnay rahnamaaon ko samjhaen k ye defining moments hain in main apnay ap ko choron dakuon ki safon main na khara karen aur na wo khamoshi ikhtiar karen jo buzdili lagay, waqt k taqazon ko samjhen
meri tanqeed JI ki behtri k liye hai agar bura lagay ko mazrat lekin baat such kar raha hoon
