Its remarkable how calm was the pilot - Ex RAF pilot on PK8303 crash

Masud Javed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is the 4th major plane crash in Pakistan since 2010 and compared that to Canada; It only had three fatal crashes in their history(around 5 million flights). Our aviation safety record is horrendous, to say the least! The primary reason for that is the lack of accountability. Every single time, they tell us there will be an investigation, and they only do it, just for the sake of it. You never hear anyone getting sacked or someone resigning. What else do you expect from such a system? This will keep happening until we start holding people accountable. Hoping for a better response this time around
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
This is the 4th major plane crash in Pakistan since 2010 and compared that to Canada; It only had three fatal crashes in their history(around 5 million flights). Our aviation safety record is horrendous, to say the least! The primary reason for that is the lack of accountability. Every single time, they tell us there will be an investigation, and they only do it, just for the sake of it. You never hear anyone getting sacked or someone resigning. What else do you expect from such a system? This will keep happening until we start holding people accountable. Hoping for a better response this time around
There is always an investigation and a result, because the manufacturers immediately get involved or they fear their plane can get grounded world wide, like in the case of the 737Max but aircraft crash investigations take time, several years is not uncommon. I'm pretty sure Airbus people from France are already in Pakistan by now or arriving shortly

And in almost all cases it is neglected maintenance or pilot error only a minority of cases its bad aircraft design like the MD DC 10 crashes that were later attributed to a faulty cargo bay hatch and the aforementioned 737 Max and its bad autopilot software.

PIA maintenance is substandard because it has been running on fumes for a couple of decades now.

Just as an example the Emirates crash at Dubai airport in 2016 the final report just came out earlier this year,

World over heads rarely roll over such incidents, and AFAIK this incident is concerned its starting to look like pilot error
 

FahadBhatti

Minister (2k+ posts)
There is always an investigation and a result, because the manufacturers immediately get involved or they fear their plane can get grounded world wide, like in the case of the 737Max but aircraft crash investigations take time, several years is not uncommon. I'm pretty sure Airbus people from France are already in Pakistan by now or arriving shortly

And in almost all cases it is neglected maintenance or pilot error only a minority of cases its bad aircraft design like the MD DC 10 crashes that were later attributed to a faulty cargo bay hatch and the aforementioned 737 Max and its bad autopilot software.

PIA maintenance is substandard because it has been running on fumes for a couple of decades now.

Just as an example the Emirates crash at Dubai airport in 2016 the final report just came out earlier this year,

World over heads rarely roll over such incidents, and AFAIK this incident is concerned its starting to look like pilot error

how its starting to look like a pilot error? care to elaborate?
 
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