Is The Quran Incomplete without Hadith?

[arifkarim]

So how can anyone be a Muslim without believing prophet Mohammad (pbuh) is the last of prophets

Because Kalima Shahadat or Kalima Tayyaba has no such clause / requirement to be considered a Muslim

 

[Nightcrawl]

hahahha....tu 8th century se pehle musalam namaz roaza hajj waghera kaise karte they?

Ahadith were available than to just not compiled

 

[arifkarim]

hahahha....tu 8th century se pehle musalam namaz roaza hajj waghera kaise karte they?

Exactly. ???

 

[arifkarim]

Ahadith were available than to just not compiled

Available how? Hadith Books were not written yet

 

[Nightcrawl]

Because Kalima Shahadat or Kalima Tayyaba has no such clause

Because Kalima Shahadat or Kalima Tayyaba has no such clause / requirement to be considered a Muslim

It's in the Quran Sahaba fought a war for khatme nabuwat battle of yamama against musaylima the fake prophet

 

[alis]

Ahadith were available than to just not compiled

hadith ka matlab hai 'zeitgeist' is mien islam nahein, balkay musalmano ki baatein hain... sunnah wo hai jo is zeitgeist mein shamil tu hai leken apni zaat mein ek jeeti jagti chez hai aur hadith ke baghair bhe qayam rehti hai, jaise quran ki tamam nuskhay khuda na kare zaya bhe ho jayein tu bhe lakhon/cororon logo ke dil mein har zamane mein quran zinda tha aur dobara likha ja sakta hai... leken mera khyal mein ap ka opion nae badlay ga tu jane he deta hain.

 

[Nightcrawl]

It's in the Quran Sahaba fought a war for khatme nabuwat battle of yamama against musaylima the fake prophet

Just quoted the Quranic verse above about khatme nabuwat and Mohammad (pbuh) being the last prophet.

 

[Nightcrawl]

hadith ka matlab hai 'zeitgeist' is mien islam nahein, balkay musalmano ki baatein hain... sunnah wo hai jo is zeitgeist mein shamil tu hai leken apni zaat mein ek jeeti jagti chez hai aur hadith ke baghair bhe qayam rehti hai, jaise quran ki tamam nuskhay khuda na kare zaya bhe ho jayein tu bhe lakhon/cororon logo ke dil mein har zamane mein quran zinda tha aur dobara likha ja sakta hai... leken mera khyal mein ap ka opion nae badlay ga tu jane he deta hain.

Bhai sahaba ki batain hain the companions of prophet Mohammad (pbuh)

 

[Nightcrawl]

dude qadiyani apni is bat per kafir nahein qarar diya jate ke wo rasool ko khatemun nabeen nae manate, asal waja Mirza maloon ki kitab mein is baat ka hona hai ke tamam muslaman jo mujhe nahein mante wo kafir hai.... quran ke mutabiq ek khuda or rasool ko manane waley ko kafir kehna kufr hai is liye qadiyani kafir kar diye gaye. warna islam mein kisi ko kafir qarar dena ka koi or tareka nahein.

Sahaba fought battle of yamama against a fake prophet musaylima kazab just like mirza garbage for khatme nabuwat

 

[arifkarim]

It's in the Quran Sahaba fought a war for khatme nabuwat battle of yamama against musaylima the fake prophet

So? Musailma was Inciting armed rebellion and had to be killed along with others rebels who didn't claim to be prophets. It was a political rebellion not religious

 

[arifkarim]

Sahaba fought battle of yamama against a fake prophet musaylima kazab just like mirza garbage for khatme nabuwat

They fought against a political rebellion. There were many rebels not just Musailma

 

[alis]

Bhai sahaba ki batain hain the companions of prophet Mohammad (pbuh)

bhai hamare rasool tu Muhammad PBUH he hain... un ki Sunnat or Quran kafi hai...baki sab history hai...in other words,
Quran=islam
Sunnah=living knowledge practice of Islam
Hadith=history of the time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and his companions.

 

[alis]

Sahaba fought battle of yamama against a fake prophet musaylima kazab just like mirza garbage for khatme nabuwat

mein ap ko quran ka bata raha hon....Allah ne kafir aur musalman declare karne ki authority apne pass rakhi hai...Rasool PBUH ne bhe kabhi kisi munafiq ko khul ke kafir nahein kar aur us ka mamla Allah per chora.... Islam mein takfir haram hai aur takfir ka amal kufr hai..... Mirza ne ek khuda ko manane walon ko kafir kaha tha...is waja se wo kuft ka murtaqib howa ...or jo jo us ke kitab ko ilhami mane ga wo bhe is kufr ka murtaqib ho ga.

 

[Mughal1]

Problem is not much with sources of information but with objectivity of people who try to produce or interpret them. Real discussion should be about islam vs islam or mazhab vs islam. For better understanding of what knowledge is and where it comes from see HERE. For better understanding of deen of islam from the quran see HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE.

In my view even the quran only muslims are wrong because they believe islam to be a mazhab, which it is not. The whole terminology used by all sects is coined by those who have no real sense of purpose of existence in their sight.

 

[Nightcrawl]

mein ap ko quran ka bata raha hon....Allah ne kafir aur musalman declare karne ki authority apne pass rakhi hai...Rasool PBUH ne bhe kabhi kisi munafiq ko khul ke kafir nahein kar aur us ka mamla Allah per chora.... Islam mein takfir haram hai aur takfir ka amal kufr hai..... Mirza ne ek khuda ko manane walon ko kafir kaha tha...is waja se wo kuft ka murtaqib howa ...or jo jo us ke kitab ko ilhami mane ga wo bhe is kufr ka murtaqib ho ga.

Bhai we have to believe our prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to be a Muslim that's all he was the last messenger there's no doubt end of the debate

 

[Nightcrawl]

Musaylima declared false prophethood and caused diversions that was the reason even in the end if you read about that battle his followers asked him where are the miracles that you promised

They fought against a political rebellion. There were many rebels not just Musailma

 

[alis]

Musaylima declared false prophethood and caused diversions that was the reason even in the end if you read about that battle his followers asked him where are the miracles that you promised

first and foremost it was an armed rebellion, he used 'prophethood' as a mantle of authority for worldly gains but in its essence, it was just an armed rebellion within the Islamic state and in that instance, jihad was compulsory to safeguard the interests of Muslims in those regions.

 

[Nightcrawl]

first and foremost it was an armed rebellion, he used 'prophethood' as a mantle of authority for worldly gains but in its essence, it was just an armed rebellion within the Islamic state and in that instance, jihad was compulsory to safeguard the interests of Muslims in those regions

first and foremost it was an armed rebellion, he used 'prophethood' as a mantle of authority for worldly gains but in its essence, it was just an armed rebellion within the Islamic state and in that instance, jihad was compulsory to safeguard the interests of Muslims in those regions.

You should listen to dr israr on that battle instead of wiki

 

[Nightcrawl]

first and foremost it was an armed rebellion, he used 'prophethood' as a mantle of authority for worldly gains but in its essence, it was just an armed rebellion within the Islamic state and in that instance, jihad was compulsory to safeguard the interests of Muslims in those regions.

What's your point actually do you think if someone denies prophet Mohammad (pbuh) we should consider him Muslim??

 

[arifkarim]

Musaylima declared false prophethood and caused diversions that was the reason even in the end if you read about that battle his followers asked him where are the miracles that you promised

Musailma used his prophethood claim to get followers for his armed rebellion against Muslims. Mirza Qadiani used his prophethood claim to get followers for his reform movement in Islam. Qadianis never rebelled against the interests of Muslims. Qadianis supported Khilafat movement, Pakistan movement, Kashmir liberation war. Founder of Pakistan Jinnah named Ch Zafrullah Khan as Pakistan's first foreign minister, a Qadiani. Qadianis provided their own militia to Pakistan army for Kashmir liberation called Furqan Force. Comparing Musailma followers who were anti Muslim rebels with Qadianis is nothing more than Bughaz Qadianiat. Qadianis have always sided with interests of Muslims and Pakistan.

Muhammad Zafarullah Khan - Wikipedia

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Furqan Force - Wikipedia

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