Investigators stumble on Hakim Said murder clues (Letter recovered from Dr. Imran Farooq's House by

mohib

Senator (1k+ posts)
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LAHORE: A letter likely to point to the murderers of former Sindh governor Hakim Said has been allegedly recovered by Scotland Yard from the house of slain Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) leader Dr Imran Farooq.

Earlier, several MQM workers, allegedly involved in Saids murder on October 17, 1998, were arrested and subsequently sentenced to death by an anti-terrorism court. However, on May 31, 2001, the Sindh High Court acquitted all the accused in the case.
The letter, said to have been written to Dr Farooq by one Javed Turk, is part of a number of documents impounded from the MQM leaders house as part of the ongoing investigations into his murder.
The investigating agency is translating the letter from Urdu to English for possible clues, sources said.
Said, who established Hamdard Foundation in 1948, was a well known scholar and philanthropist.
Farooq Murder probe
Translated documents, recovered from Farooqs house, are helping Scotland Yard zero-in on possible suspects in Farooqs murder case, sources said.
Scotland Yard has recently questioned on caution one person and also carried out house and office raids in the UK in connection with Dr Farooqs murder. The person questioned on caution is believed to have links with an important Pakistan-based political party.
Knowledgeable sources have claimed that the MQM UK chapter has taken strong exception to the direction the murder case probe has taken and has even reportedly protested to the UK government.
Last month in one of his telephonic speeches from London, MQM chief Altaf Hussain had alleged that Pakistans civilian agencies the Intelligence Bureau (IB) and the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) had provided misleading information to Scotland Yard. Hussain implied that the information sent by the agencies had attempted to implicate the MQM in Dr Farooqs murder.
However, both Pakistans Foreign Office (FO) and the High Commission in the UK have denied knowledge of any such communication between IB and FIA and the Scotland Yard. According to them, as per rules, all communication has to pass through the FO and Pakistans High Commission.
Scotland Yard is said to be treating the case of Dr Farooqs murder with high priority and are trying their level best to apprehend the killers before September 16. Circumstantial evidence indicates that the suspected murderers have left the UK for, most probably, Colombo.
Three suspects arrested from Karachi Airport
According to sources, a non-civilian Pakistani intelligence agency had detained three suspects some months ago from Karachi in connected with Dr Farooqs murder. They were handed over to the law-enforcement agencies (LEAs) last month, sources familiar with the matter revealed.
They said that contrary to media reports, the suspects Khalid Shamim and two young boys were not taken into custody on a tip from Scotland Yard.
Their purported arrest from the Karachi airport on a tip from Scotland Yard was allegedly leaked to the media by Interior Minister Rehman Malik. However, the British police were reportedly surprised themselves, when the news of the arrest and Scotland Yards tip-off broke.
Furthermore, the Personal Identification Secure Comparison and Evaluation System (PISCES) installed at the Karachi airport did not support the arrest of Shamim and his accomplices.
The plot
Sources further revealed that Shamim was given the task of killing Dr Farooq in London. He sought help from a man named Hammad Siddiqi, who provided him with two boys as his accomplices. Shamim is said to have arranged student visas for the boys.
Upon their arrival in London, sources added, the boys were briefed about Dr Farooqs routine by an unidentified man. Dr Farooq was murdered by the boys close to his house, sources said. Sources added that following the murder, the boys left for Colombo instead of coming back to Pakistan to mislead investigators.
After reaching Colombo, they allegedly contacted Shamim, who ordered them to come back to Pakistan. A non-civilian secret agency recorded all the conversations between Shamim and the boys. According to sources, Shamim had planned to murder the boys upon their arrival in Karachi.
Confession
The agencies detained the boys when they reached Karachi from Colombo and were made to listen to all the recordings of their conversations. According to sources, after listening to the recordings, they themselves confessed to the murder in the presence of the non-civilian intelligence agency personnel. Although Shamim presented the facts in a different context, statements of all three of the accused proved comparable at the end, sources familiar with the matter further revealed.
After thorough interrogation and extracting complete information, the inquiring agencys provincial (Sindh) chapter sent a detailed report to its headquarters. After getting approval, the culprits were handed over to the LEAs last month for registration of criminal cases and prosecution.
Meanwhile, increased visits and meetings of UK officials, particularly intelligence liaison officers, police liaison officers, as well as undercover officials of UK intelligence agencies have been observed by the FIA headquarters in Islamabad during August.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 4[SUP]th[/SUP], 2011.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/244548/investigators-stumble-on-hakim-said-murder-clues/

 

Resonant

MPA (400+ posts)
There are motives behind every murder case...lets think what are the possible motives behind the murder of IQ...What benefit would someone get after killing him?
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Now, the MQM supporters would come out in droves to belittle this news as well.

First to claim that it is proven that MQM was not involved in the murder of Hakim Saeed.
Then to rubbish the news of recent arrests and investigations.

If MQM was not involved in the murder of Hakim, then what the letter was doing with Dr. Imran?

MQM supporter, please remember this is not "Ummat" news. [hilar][hilar][hilar]
 

Young_Blood

Minister (2k+ posts)
Meri aik request hai,,, k ISI farooq Sattar ko sirf 2 hours k liay investigate karey, ye sare k sarey poll khol de ga MQM k,,,
ALLAH ke laathi bari be awaaz hai,,, bohat zulm keeya hai in MQM walo ne,,, Bohat se masoom logo ke janein le hein in qatilo ne,, in yazeedo ne,,,, investigation sahi terha se ke jaey, to jo 2001 se 2011 tak jitne bhe poilce officers ko karachi main maara gaya hai wo bhe awaam k samnay aa jaey ga,,, ALLAH zardari ko hidayat de Ameen, aur wo in traitors ka reall face khud urdu speaking walo k samnay afshaa karey, poorey pakistan k samnay aur poori duniya k samnay,,, ta k logo ko pata chalay k MQM ka reall face kya hai,,,

Mujhey afsos hota hai k pakistan ke sab political parties iss matter per khamosh hein, koi bhe govt of pakistan per pressure nahi daal raha k wo MQM k khilaaf sakht investigation karey aur logo k samnay haqeeqat le k aaey,,,
Civil Society bhe hamein kahi nazar nahi aa rahi,, MEDIA ke to hawa nikal jati hai agar MQM k khilaaf koi news ya report deni ho to...

Pakistan main aik aisi tehreek chalni chahiay k MQM ko aik kaliyadam party keh ker life time ban ker dena chahiay,,

Let c.. k Supreme Court kya fesla sunati hai,,, magar mujhey zaara barabar bhe umeed nahi iss Supreme Court se,,, Kiun k jo garajtay hein wo barastay nahi,,, SC sirf garajti hai,,, sakht fesla sunanay ke himmat nahi rekhti,,

2011 main 17 Advocates ko maar dia gaya hai,,, magar poorey pakistan ke wuklaa baradri khamosh hai,,, Kiun?

Khi main zinda wakeelo ko jala dia gaya,, aaj tak kisi Bar ne uss ke investigation ka mutalba nahi keeya,
kHud 12 May ko CJ ke aankho k samnay 52 laashein uthi,,, magar CJ sahab 3 saal tak khamosh bhaithey rahay,, aur ab tak khamosh bhaithey hein,,,,

Beileve me Guys,,,, aap log manein ya na manein,,, ye sab k sab apas main milley howay hein,, sab political parties,, law enforce agencies,,, aur judicary,,,, ye sab k sab aik he thaali k began hein,,,, :angry_smile:
 

khawaja555

Councller (250+ posts)
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LAHORE: A letter likely to point to the murderers of former Sindh governor Hakim Said has been allegedly recovered by Scotland Yard from the house of slain Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) leader Dr Imran Farooq.

Earlier, several MQM workers, allegedly involved in Said’s murder on October 17, 1998, were arrested and subsequently sentenced to death by an anti-terrorism court. However, on May 31, 2001, the Sindh High Court acquitted all the accused in the case.
The letter, said to have been written to Dr Farooq by one Javed Turk, is part of a number of documents impounded from the MQM leader’s house as part of the ongoing investigations into his murder.
The investigating agency is translating the letter from Urdu to English for possible clues, sources said.
Said, who established Hamdard Foundation in 1948, was a well known scholar and philanthropist.
Farooq Murder probe
Translated documents, recovered from Farooq’s house, are helping Scotland Yard zero-in on possible suspects in Farooq’s murder case, sources said.
Scotland Yard has recently questioned on caution one person and also carried out house and office raids in the UK in connection with Dr Farooq’s murder. The person questioned on caution is believed to have links with an important Pakistan-based political party.
Knowledgeable sources have claimed that the MQM UK chapter has taken strong exception to the direction the murder case probe has taken and has even reportedly protested to the UK government.
Last month in one of his telephonic speeches from London, MQM chief Altaf Hussain had alleged that Pakistan’s civilian agencies – the Intelligence Bureau (IB) and the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) – had provided ‘misleading information’ to Scotland Yard. Hussain implied that the information sent by the agencies had attempted to implicate the MQM in Dr Farooq’s murder.
However, both Pakistan’s Foreign Office (FO) and the High Commission in the UK have denied knowledge of any such communication between IB and FIA and the Scotland Yard. According to them, as per rules, all communication has to pass through the FO and Pakistan’s High Commission.
Scotland Yard is said to be treating the case of Dr Farooq’s murder with high priority and are trying their level best to apprehend the killers before September 16. Circumstantial evidence indicates that the suspected murderers have left the UK for, most probably, Colombo.
Three suspects arrested from Karachi Airport
According to sources, a non-civilian Pakistani intelligence agency had detained three suspects some months ago from Karachi in connected with Dr Farooq’s murder. They were handed over to the law-enforcement agencies (LEAs) last month, sources familiar with the matter revealed.
They said that contrary to media reports, the suspects – Khalid Shamim and two young boys – were not taken into custody on a tip from Scotland Yard.
Their purported arrest from the Karachi airport on a tip from Scotland Yard was allegedly leaked to the media by Interior Minister Rehman Malik. However, the British police were reportedly surprised themselves, when the news of the arrest and Scotland Yard’s ‘tip-off’ broke.
Furthermore, the Personal Identification Secure Comparison and Evaluation System (PISCES) installed at the Karachi airport did not support the arrest of Shamim and his accomplices.
The plot
Sources further revealed that Shamim was given the task of killing Dr Farooq in London. He sought help from a man named Hammad Siddiqi, who provided him with two boys as his accomplices. Shamim is said to have arranged student visas for the boys.
Upon their arrival in London, sources added, the boys were briefed about Dr Farooq’s routine by an unidentified man. Dr Farooq was murdered by the boys close to his house, sources said. Sources added that following the murder, the boys left for Colombo instead of coming back to Pakistan to mislead investigators.
After reaching Colombo, they allegedly contacted Shamim, who ordered them to come back to Pakistan. A non-civilian secret agency recorded all the conversations between Shamim and the boys. According to sources, Shamim had planned to murder the boys upon their arrival in Karachi.
Confession
The agencies detained the boys when they reached Karachi from Colombo and were made to listen to all the recordings of their conversations. According to sources, after listening to the recordings, they themselves confessed to the murder in the presence of the non-civilian intelligence agency personnel. Although Shamim presented the facts in a different context, statements of all three of the accused proved comparable at the end, sources familiar with the matter further revealed.
After thorough interrogation and extracting complete information, the inquiring agency’s provincial (Sindh) chapter sent a detailed report to its headquarters. After getting approval, the culprits were handed over to the LEAs last month for registration of criminal cases and prosecution.
Meanwhile, increased visits and meetings of UK officials, particularly intelligence liaison officers, police liaison officers, as well as undercover officials of UK intelligence agencies have been observed by the FIA headquarters in Islamabad during August.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 4[SUP]th[/SUP], 2011.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/244548/investigators-stumble-on-hakim-said-murder-clues/

jis ne bi hakeem Saeed ko qatal kia us ne Pakistan ko qatal ki koshish ki.jo log hakeem Saeed ko jante hain wo meri baat ki taeed karen ge
 

famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
jis ne bi hakeem Saeed ko qatal kia us ne Pakistan ko qatal ki koshish ki.jo log hakeem Saeed ko jante hain wo meri baat ki taeed karen ge

LAND GRABING...................HAMDARD FOUNDATION KI PROPERTY.....................UNIVERSITY...................PRESURE............AUR HAKIM SHAHB KA ELAAN BEFORE MURDER ................KEH ME YE AWAM KE SAMNE LAOON GA ..............KOUN THA WOH....??????

2nd..............A.SATTAR EDHI SHAHB KA UNDERGROUND HONA.................AUR MULK SE CHALE JANA...............KIA THA WOH..........KOUN THA WOH................????????????????????
 

pak4rule

Senator (1k+ posts)
the murder of Hakim Said is the most tragic and saddest incident.
He wouldnt let MQM flourish the way MQM did, He was the main hurdle in the ghunda gardi of MQM.
Pakistan has lost a gem. I feel sad that we as nation also didnt do anything, i.e protest or so and sliently watched these nasty terrorists doing whatever they did.
Allah hum per rehem karay.
Pakistani people must realise now that NO political figure including Imran khan will help them, the people of pakistan must stand without them to let all polititions, general and others to know that they can defend themselves without them and anti pakistan policies must be stopped.
 

Ajnabi27

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Now, the MQM supporters would come out in droves to belittle this news as well.
First to claim that it is proven that MQM was not involved in the murder of Hakim Saeed.
Then to rubbish the news of recent arrests and investigations.
If MQM was not involved in the murder of Hakim, then what the letter was doing with Dr. Imran?
MQM supporter, please remember this is not "Ummat" news. [hilar][hilar][hilar]

Dont Jump too much like you GUYS were few days back on FAKE NEWS :lol:... This time its MANSOORA NEWS... Hakeem Saeed was killed in KHI, a So CALLED LETTER is being Found in London and NEWS is comming out of MANSOORA (Lahore).... (clap) What is the big DEAL hah...
 

Ajnabi27

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
jis ne bi hakeem Saeed ko qatal kia us ne Pakistan ko qatal ki koshish ki.jo log hakeem Saeed ko jante hain wo meri baat ki taeed karen ge

LAND GRABING...................HAMDARD FOUNDATION KI PROPERTY.....................UNIVERSITY...................PRESURE............AUR HAKIM SHAHB KA ELAAN BEFORE MURDER ................KEH ME YE AWAM KE SAMNE LAOON GA ..............KOUN THA WOH....??????

2nd..............A.SATTAR EDHI SHAHB KA UNDERGROUND HONA.................AUR MULK SE CHALE JANA...............KIA THA WOH..........KOUN THA WOH................????????????????????


Nice one Mate..
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
No one has doubt mqm is a team of butchers and terrorists. Since there party came into politics karachi has been bleeding. That is the biggest sick **** commentry we hear from media who is doing thisa who is doing this. Sick holes your abaa jaan mqm is doing it and you know it. Have the guts to say it on media.
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re:Even international media is reporting this news

MQM supporters always try to dismiss reports based on their perceptions and allegations about "UMMAT".

This report has also appeared in international press. I hope the MQM also would deny it as propaganda by Pakistani media against MQM.[hilar][hilar]

UK police stumble on clues to Hakim Saids murder


5 September 2011, 9:57 PM

ISLAMABAD A letter likely to point to the murderers of former Sindh governor Hakim Said has been reportedly recovered by Scotland Yard from the house of slain Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) leader Dr Imran Farooq.

Earlier, several MQM workers, allegedly involved in Saids murder on October 17, 1998, were arrested and subsequently sentenced to death by an anti-terrorism court. However, on May 31, 2001, the Sindh High Court acquitted all the accused in the case for failure of the prosecution to produce terrified witnesses.
The letter, said to have been written to Dr Farooq by one Javed Turk, is part of a number of documents impounded from the MQM leaders house as part of the ongoing investigation into his murder.
Said, who established Hamdard Foundation in 1948, was a well known scholar and philanthropist. After his murder, the then prime minister Nawaz Sharif dismissed the province government of his party and imposed governors rule in the province.

Translated documents, recovered from Farooqs house, are helping Scotland Yard to zero-in on suspects in Farooqs murder case, sources said.

Scotland Yard has recently questioned an activist of the MQM. Former Sindh senior minister Dr Zulfiqar Mirza has accused the MQM of assassinating Hakim Said and Imran Farooq saying the orders came from MQM chief Altaf Hussain. The MQM has rejected the allegation as absurd.

Knowledgeable sources have claimed that the MQM UK chapter has taken strong exception to the direction the murder case probe has taken and has even reportedly protested to the UK government. Altaf Hussain last month accused Pakistans intelligence agencies of feeding poisonous material to London police against him and his party.

Altaf has been out of public view for past about a fortnight amid reports that London police had stopped him from escaping to South Africa citing security reasons. The British High Commissioner in Islamabad has, however, refuted reports that Altaf is under house arrest. In a belated clarification, the MQM said he has been unwell for past two weeks and has recovered fast.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Display...2011/september/international_september189.xml
 

funkymonk

Minister (2k+ posts)
I can bet you were in those videos ..
and seems like you were bottom there ...

they found one more letter in imran farooqs house... Mentioning that imran khan is gay!! And that he has lots of taliban boy friends... Imran khan gay videos are on the way very soon :);)
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Even international media is reporting this news

MQM supporters always try to dismiss reports based on their perceptions and allegations about "UMMAT".

This report has also appeared in international press. I hope the MQM also would deny it as propaganda by Pakistani media against MQM.[hilar][hilar]

This so called "International Media" does not have their "Own" & "Separate" source .... but they are quoting that what has been published by biased Pakistani Media.
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Even international media is reporting this news

This so called "International Media" does not have their "Own" & "Separate" source .... but they are quoting that what has been published by biased Pakistani Media.

Ever heard of a term called "libel"? Ask AH to sue Khaleej Times, he will make mega bucks, if he can prove the news wrong.[hilar][hilar]

Whatever the source, Khaleej Times is legally responsible for their publication. They have not give any source or even mentioned a news organisation on this news.

I say go for it, we will see also how you going to prove it wrong.

IF your MQM and AH do not do anything despite them having an open opportunity to sue an international organisation and publication for (allegedly) false report and reporting, then we are justified to deduce there is truth in the news.
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Even international media is reporting this news

Ever heard of a term called "libel"? Ask AH to sue Khaleej Times, he will make mega bucks, if he can prove the news wrong.[hilar][hilar]

Whatever the source, Khaleej Times is legally responsible for their publication. They have not give any source or even mentioned a news organisation on this news.

I say go for it, we will see also how you going to prove it wrong.

IF your MQM and AH do not do anything despite them having an open opportunity to sue an international organisation and publication for (allegedly) false report and reporting, then we are justified to deduce there is truth in the news.

خلیج ٹائمز والے اسلام آباد میں بیٹھ کر سکاٹ لینڈ کی خبریں چھاپ رہا ہے۔

اب خود اندازہ لگا لیں کہ انکا ماخذ سکاٹ لینڈ میں موجود تحقیقاتی سورس ہے یا پھر اسلام آباد میں موجود شخص جس نے پاکستانی اخبارات کو نقل کر دیا ہے۔



5 September 2011, 9:57 PM

ISLAMABAD — A letter likely to point to the murderers of former Sindh governor Hakim Said has been reportedly recovered by Scotland Yard from the house of slain Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) leader Dr Imran Farooq.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Display...2011/september/international_september189.xml