FATF is all about foriegn policy nothing to do with inland laws

Shah Shatranj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
FATF is association of 39 countries. To avoid blacklist you need only three votes, to get out of grey list you need 12 votes. This is total failure of Pakistan’s foriegn policy that last time we avoided black list just getting three votes of China, Turkey and Malaysia. If anyone of these countries had not supported Pakistan, it would be on blacklist. It should be considered most humiliated situation in Pakistan history that only three countries supported Pakistan on FATF. The risk of going blacklist is not yet over as romance of Mahatir is over in Malaysian relations if they turn to India and avoid Pakistan then Pakistan will be left with only two votes of Turkey and China. Could anyone think that Pakistan’s CPEC bond with China and new love with Iran would cost it anger of USA lobby to the level it is on the brink of going blacklist ? On the other side another foriegn policy blunder deteriorated relationship with all weather friend Saudi Arabia is creating a big loss of two votes at FATF, on of Saudi Arabia has become full member of FATF and other is of GCC whose presidency is shifted to Saudi Arabia. Now we're at the lowest point of our existence that we can't manage three votes to avoid FATF blacklist. In the wake of USA China trade war and Israel breaking into Arabia should not we be afraid of being struck in isolation of China Iran love. All previous governments had built enough good relations to remain intact with all traditional allies of Pakistan and not to deteriorate relations for the sake if TV dramas. Pakistan had weight and standing in world, even today no country would like to see a nuclear power going blacklist but due to foreign policy failure Pakistan will be begging for one vote to avoid blacklist.
 
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miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
FATF is association of 39 countries. To avoid blacklist you need only three votes, to get out of grey list you need 12 votes. This is total failure of Pakistan’s foriegn policy that last time we avoided black list just getting three votes of China, Turkey and Malaysia. If anyone of these countries had not supported Pakistan, it would be on blacklist. It should be considered most humiliated situation in Pakistan history that only three countries supported Pakistan on FATF. The risk of going blacklist is not yet over as romance of Mahatir is over in Malaysian relations if they turn to India and avoid Pakistan then Pakistan will be left with only two votes of Turkey and China. Could anyone think that Pakistan’s CPEC bond with China and new love with Iran would cost it anger of USA lobby to the level it is on the brink of going blacklist ? On the other side another foriegn policy blunder deteriorated relationship with all weather friend Saudi Arabia is creating a big loss of two votes at FATF, on of Saudi Arabia has become full member of FATF and other is of GCC whose presidency is shifted to Saudi Arabia. Now we're at the lowest point of our existence that we can't manage three votes to avoid FATF blacklist. In the wake of USA China trade war and Israel breaking into Arabia should not we be afraid of being struck in isolation of China Iran love. All previous governments had built enough good relations to remain intact with all traditional allies of Pakistan and not to deteriorate relations for the sake if TV dramas. Pakistan had weight and standing in world, even today no country would like to see a nuclear power going blacklist but due to foreign policy failure Pakistan will be begging for one vote to avoid blacklist.
The Title of your thread is enough to avoid any logical arguments with you on the matter.
 

Will_Bite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
FATF is association of 39 countries. To avoid blacklist you need only three votes, to get out of grey list you need 12 votes.
So you wanted the govt to skirt its way around muddy puddles and use 'cheeky diplomacy' to get out of FATF grey list without touching the growing scourge of money laundering at home? just to save zardaris and sharifs?.

Thanks but no thanks.
 

Judicary-Media Mafia

MPA (400+ posts)
FATF is association of 39 countries. To avoid blacklist you need only three votes, to get out of grey list you need 12 votes. This is total failure of Pakistan’s foriegn policy that last time we avoided black list just getting three votes of China, Turkey and Malaysia. If anyone of these countries had not supported Pakistan, it would be on blacklist. It should be considered most humiliated situation in Pakistan history that only three countries supported Pakistan on FATF. The risk of going blacklist is not yet over as romance of Mahatir is over in Malaysian relations if they turn to India and avoid Pakistan then Pakistan will be left with only two votes of Turkey and China. Could anyone think that Pakistan’s CPEC bond with China and new love with Iran would cost it anger of USA lobby to the level it is on the brink of going blacklist ? On the other side another foriegn policy blunder deteriorated relationship with all weather friend Saudi Arabia is creating a big loss of two votes at FATF, on of Saudi Arabia has become full member of FATF and other is of GCC whose presidency is shifted to Saudi Arabia. Now we're at the lowest point of our existence that we can't manage three votes to avoid FATF blacklist. In the wake of USA China trade war and Israel breaking into Arabia should not we be afraid of being struck in isolation of China Iran love. All previous governments had built enough good relations to remain intact with all traditional allies of Pakistan and not to deteriorate relations for the sake if TV dramas. Pakistan had weight and standing in world, even today no country would like to see a nuclear power going blacklist but due to foreign policy failure Pakistan will be begging for one vote to avoid blacklist.
You Patwaris are so much locked in to your slave minds that you can't think far. Try to get some refresh course to kick start your brains. All your thinks are how to defend corrupt mafias and don't care about Pakistan just filling your bank accounts like Geo tv.
 

Shah Shatranj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
So you wanted the govt to skirt its way around muddy puddles and use 'cheeky diplomacy' to get out of FATF grey list without touching the growing scourge of money laundering at home? just to save zardaris and sharifs?.

Thanks but no thanks.
There is just a shit of enmity with zardari and nawas in your mind and you think without three votes showing anti money laundering laws you will get away. While every one knows US tightening grip because of CPEC and other motives. The shit of enmity will definitely drown Pakistan.
 

Shah Shatranj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You Patwaris are so much locked in to your slave minds that you can't think far. Try to get some refresh course to kick start your brains. All your thinks are how to defend corrupt mafias and don't care about Pakistan just filling your bank accounts like Geo tv.
Ok tell me how without three votes can Pakistan avoid FATF Blacklist
 

Hussain1967

Minister (2k+ posts)
I agree that Pakistan’s persistent presence in the grey list is not due to the absence of anti-money-laundering laws but due to Pakistan’s relations with the member countries of FATF.

Even after the passage of laws, I don’t think that Pakistan will be out of grey list anytime soon.
 

Judicary-Media Mafia

MPA (400+ posts)
I agree that Pakistan’s persistent presence in the grey list is not due to the absence of anti-money-laundering law but due to Pakistan’s relations with the member countries of FATF.

Even after the passage of laws, I don’t think that Pakistan will be out of grey list anytime soon.
Why didn't you get strong past 35 years instead of corruption and incompetence slaves can't demand anything
 

Kam

Councller (250+ posts)
You Patwaris are so much locked in to your slave minds that you can't think far. Try to get some refresh course to kick start your brains. All your thinks are how to defend corrupt mafias and don't care about Pakistan just filling your bank accounts like Geo tv.
Do you think, it will work...............Only waste of time................
 

thinking

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
FATF..IMF..World Bank.UN all institutions are tools of west to pressure the poor and Thiers desire political agendas..But Pakistan should implement these laws..This is for Pakistan..
As for FATF black mailing.. Pakistan should reconsider relationship with those countries who work against Pakistan in FATF...We will not become slave for West..USA any more on the cost of Pakistan..It's enough..Nawaz Zardari..Molvi Diesel should be hanged working against Pakistan..
 
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