End of story, Kill confirmed Pakistan shot down Indian Su-30 MKI on 27 Feb

Khan125

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There has been zero evidence reported on the SU30 being shot down by Pak, and zero evidence of a F16 shot down by Ind. Everyone needs to hold off on the tinfoil theories until more evidence is available.
Indians have shown pieces of AMRAAM missile. Looking at the pieces its evident that it has hit its target. If it had not hit its target it would not have exploded like that.... AMRAAM missile hit its target.... SU30.

Now coming to the indian claim of shooting down a plane by abinandan.... all missiles of mig21 are recovered. None of them was fired..... means this story is also FAKE
 

PTI-Zindabad

MPA (400+ posts)
Indians have shown pieces of AMRAAM missile. Looking at the pieces its evident that it has hit its target. If it had not hit its target it would not have exploded like that.... AMRAAM missile hit its target.... SU30.

Now coming to the indian claim of shooting down a plane by abinandan.... all missiles of mig21 are recovered. None of them was fired..... means this story is also FAKE

If the Indians did recover a AMRAAM, then it (a) proves a F16 was involved, not a JF17, and (B) that it missed it's target.

Now whether we recovered all the missiles associated with Mig 21 or not is highly debateable. The beauty of the fog of war is that nothing will ever be certain, allowing both sides to claim victory to the respective gallery and move on. The only thing certain is that one Mig 21 was shot and a Mil 17 helicopter came down on the J&K side.
 

Khan125

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If the Indians did recover a AMRAAM, then it (a) proves a F16 was involved, not a JF17, and (B) that it missed it's target.

Now whether we recovered all the missiles associated with Mig 21 or not is highly debateable. The beauty of the fog of war is that nothing will ever be certain, allowing both sides to claim victory to the respective gallery and move on. The only thing certain is that one Mig 21 was shot and a Mil 17 helicopter came down on the J&K side.
For the first part of your argument, it seems u are totally ignorant of air weaponry. AMRAAM's warhead does not blast if it does not hit its target. What indians produced, is a piece of AMRAAM that has certainly hit its target.
Jf17 was designed as copy of f16. F16 can use AMRAAM, but this does not mean that jf17 cannot use AMRAAM. This is INDIOTs stupid logic that has already been shattered to pieces.

Missiles of mig21 are all found. None of them is EVEN fired. Thats not debatable. The fairy tale of abhnandan shooting f16 down is totally fake. Even abhnandan denied it, if he had agreed to beva part of this fairy tale, he would hv been on air nd claiming an f16...

Only fools like those INDIOTS are debating, who were debating on migs wreckage to be of f16. Such stupid debates have no worth.
 
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PTI-Zindabad

MPA (400+ posts)
For the first part of your argument, it seems u are totally ignorant of air weaponry. AMRAAM's warhead does not blast if it does not hit its target. What indians produced, is a piece of AMRAAM that has certainly hit its target.
Jf17 was designed as copy of f16. F16 can use AMRAAM, but this does not mean that jf17 cannot use AMRAAM. This is INDIOTs stupid logic that has already been shattered to pieces.

Missiles of mig21 are all found. None of them is EVEN fired. Thats not debatable. The fairy tale of abhnandan shooting f16 down is totally fake. Even abhnandan denied it, if he had agreed to beva part of this fairy tale, he would hv been on air nd claiming an f16...

Only fools like those INDIOTS are debating, who were debating on migs wreckage to be of f16. Such stupid debates have no worth.
Where does it say that JF17 can fire AMRAAM? Who gave Pakistan the source code for integration with Chinese avionics?
 

بگ باس

MPA (400+ posts)
Pakistan needs to change JF17 engine to a powerful engine and it should be manufactured in Pakistan, also we need to increase its range and payload capacity, I do think block 3 will be good but we should start thinking about block 4 or block 5 right now, we also need J20 from China till we don't get 5th generation fighter , Rafael will come to India this Sep so we should be prepared.

پیٹر انجن لگوا لیں۔۔۔؟؟ جو کرولا بیاسی کو لگا کے اسے پٹرول سے ڈیزل گاڑی بناتے تھے اسی کی دہائی میں

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بگ باس

MPA (400+ posts)
Am I missing something here. How do these badges tell the SU-30 story? Please elaborate.

بیج میں اوپر پانچ جہاز کی تصویر جو شاید پی اے ایف کی سٹرینتھ ظاہر کرتی ہے اور نیچے وہ جہاز جو گرائے تھے۔۔۔ جیسا کہ نیچے دو مختلف ماڈل ہیں تو ایک تو کنفرم ہے مِگ تھا تو دوسرا سخوئی ہی ہو سکتا ہے واقف کار بتا سکتے ہیں ماڈل دیکھ کے
 

TONIC

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
پیٹر انجن لگوا لیں۔۔۔؟؟ جو کرولا بیاسی کو لگا کے اسے پٹرول سے ڈیزل گاڑی بناتے تھے اسی کی دہائی میں

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Was it a joke ! sense of humour is pathetic :(
 

Khan125

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بیج میں اوپر پانچ جہاز کی تصویر جو شاید پی اے ایف کی سٹرینتھ ظاہر کرتی ہے اور نیچے وہ جہاز جو گرائے تھے۔۔۔ جیسا کہ نیچے دو مختلف ماڈل ہیں تو ایک تو کنفرم ہے مِگ تھا تو دوسرا سخوئی ہی ہو سکتا ہے واقف کار بتا سکتے ہیں ماڈل دیکھ کے
you are right.
One is mig21 other is SU30
 

bhaibarood

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Acha o merey baap.
India k mig 21 ne aik nhi 10 f16 giraey they.
Pakistan ne aik b nhi giraya. Jo gira vo b abhi nandan 10ve f16 ko takr mari thi is liey gira gaya...
ABB KHUSH
Dunno taraf se lambi lambi choriyan chal rahi hain, kuch munasib karlo!
Na mera na tera. Mana wohi jaiga jo nazr ke samney hai, yani abhinandan ka plane hi giraya gaya baki sab jhoot hai.
Jo Mi17 heli gira tha woh suna hai Endian pilots ke apney BVR se gira tha, boley tu friendly fire.
Abhinandand ko chai pila jo anaand mila hai woh kabhi nahi mila hoga qoom ko.
Still chaddies say they won lol