Economic Progress under PTI...

Vulcan Vendetta

MPA (400+ posts)
None of the above presented numbers is correct, except 30% reduction in trade deficit. Inflation increased from 4% in PML(N) era to 12% now. Stock market has fell from 43000 to now around 34000. Dollar rose from 115 to 160. What this lady is talking about? bullshit.
Ghulam ho to aesa. pmln kay siasatdan khud mantay hain kay pmln kay pehlay saal main inflation 10% say ooper thi lakin patwari kehta hay nahi jee serf 4% thi lol
Everything u mentioned has been explained by all economy experts but teray liye bus murghay ki wohi ek tang
Dollar was 115 lol. U dont need education u need ghairat
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ghulam ho to aesa. pmln kay siasatdan khud mantay hain kay pmln kay pehlay saal main inflation 10% say ooper thi lakin patwari kehta hay nahi jee serf 4% thi lol
Everything u mentioned has been explained by all economy experts but teray liye bus murghay ki wohi ek tang
Dollar was 115 lol. U dont need education u need ghairat
ڈالر جب نون نے نگران حکومت کو اقتدار دیا تو ایک سو پندرہ تھا -
پیپلز پارٹی دس فیصد سے زیادہ مہنگائی کی شرح دے کر گئی جسے نون نے اگلے چند سالوں میں کم کر کے چار پر لایا - تحریک انصاف پہلے تین چار مہینے میں ہی اسے دس پر لے گئی جو اب بارہ کے قریب ہے - عوام کو صرف مہنگائی اور بے روزگاری سے فرق پڑھتا ہے اس قابل حکومت نے مہنگائی کم اور ایک کروڑ نوکریاں دینے کا خواب دکھایا تھا مہیشت کے بیڑا غرق ہونے سے چالیس لاکھ لوگ روزگار چکے ہیں - اور کوئی سوال
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
As I said patwaris should stay away...it is beyond your comprehension
You cannot understand this and you don't have courage to admit truth:
Truth is on this universal web site accepted by all economic experts:


جھوٹے نمبرگھڑ کراور گراف بنا کر ایک لڑکی کی آواز کس کو متاثر کرنا چاہتی ہے - جھوٹ کے پاؤں نہیں ہوتے اس لئے اصل نمبر جان کر اب سب بھاگو گے - پٹواری اور جاہل کون ہیں جن کے پاس اصل نمبر ہیں یا وہ جو ہوا میں جھوٹے نمبر لے کر باتیں کر رہے ہیں اپنے نمبروں کا ایک تو ثبوت پیش کرو جاہلو
 

GreenMaple

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
None of the above presented numbers is correct, except 30% reduction in trade deficit. Inflation increased from 4% in PML(N) era to 12% now. Stock market has fell from 43000 to now around 34000. Dollar rose from 115 to 160. What this lady is talking about? bullshit.
Voodoonomics of a Patwari aka Safdar Awan...bus naam hi kafi hey!
 

RajaRawal111

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

mhafeez

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اگر مہنگائی کا موازنہ نون لیگ اور پیپلز پارٹی کے پہلے سالوں سے کرنا ہے تو پھر باقی اشارئیے بھی اسی حساب سے کریں ،ایسے اشارئیے ہمیشہ پچھلے سال سے متعین کئے جاتے ہیں ، پھر اتنی زیادہ غلطیاں ہیں کہ انداز کوئی نہیں ، جیسے جی ڈی پی بڑھی ہے لیکن اس حساب سے نہیں جس طرح پچھلے سالوں میں بڑھی ہے ، سب کچھ گڈ مڈ کردیا ہے اور کوئی حوالہ نہیں دیا ہے جس سے یہ فگرز چیک کی جاسکیں ، سب جھوٹو جھوٹ چوالیس کیا ہوا ہے

یہ صرف انصافیوں کو پھدو بنانے کی کوشش ہے اور کمنٹس سے لگ رہا ہے اکثریت بن بھی گئی ہے​
 

Vulcan Vendetta

MPA (400+ posts)
ڈالر جب نون نے نگران حکومت کو اقتدار دیا تو ایک سو پندرہ تھا -
پیپلز پارٹی دس فیصد سے زیادہ مہنگائی کی شرح دے کر گئی جسے نون نے اگلے چند سالوں میں کم کر کے چار پر لایا - تحریک انصاف پہلے تین چار مہینے میں ہی اسے دس پر لے گئی جو اب بارہ کے قریب ہے - عوام کو صرف مہنگائی اور بے روزگاری سے فرق پڑھتا ہے اس قابل حکومت نے مہنگائی کم اور ایک کروڑ نوکریاں دینے کا خواب دکھایا تھا مہیشت کے بیڑا غرق ہونے سے چالیس لاکھ لوگ روزگار چکے ہیں - اور کوئی سوال
Pehli baat dollar 121 per tha jab noon gayi lol.
N listen to miftah ismael interviews he openly said that ishaq dollar was throwing billions of dollars in market to maintain dollar price when real value was supposed to b 130 to 135, n thats y miftah started devalueing it, caretaker govt continued doing it n so did pti because it hurts economy when u maintain dollar like that. Due to this strategy of ishaq dollar Pakistan had to borrow loans of over 12 billion dollars just to maintain that fake value. If numbers look good on surface it does not mean that money is really urs, it was huge loan that was shown to u as ur gdp growth, dollar value etc. N these r the 2 numbers noon tells u they never tell u deficits, rates of interest on loans or the fact that they put ur airports n motorways on mortgage to borrow money to show those fake numbers. And now pti is returning those loans. Isnt it a fact?
Ppp jab gayi to 64 billion ka loan tha aor treasury had 22 billion, noon jab gayi to 95 billion ka loan tha n treasury had only 10 billion, yeh fact kon dekhey ga? Ppp ki govt bi inflation ko 4 ya 5 kay kareeb chor ker gayi thi jo noon kay pehlay saal 10 say ooper gayi despite cheapest oil prices in decades. Ye fact kon dekhey ga?
Pti nay jo bhi wada kiya tha 5 saal ki hukumat ka kiya tha 13 months ka nahi.
Aor koi sawal? Lol
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pehli baat dollar 121 per tha jab noon gayi lol.
N listen to miftah ismael interviews he openly said that ishaq dollar was throwing billions of dollars in market to maintain dollar price when real value was supposed to b 130 to 135, n thats y miftah started devalueing it, caretaker govt continued doing it n so did pti because it hurts economy when u maintain dollar like that. Due to this strategy of ishaq dollar Pakistan had to borrow loans of over 12 billion dollars just to maintain that fake value. If numbers look good on surface it does not mean that money is really urs, it was huge loan that was shown to u as ur gdp growth, dollar value etc. N these r the 2 numbers noon tells u they never tell u deficits, rates of interest on loans or the fact that they put ur airports n motorways on mortgage to borrow money to show those fake numbers. And now pti is returning those loans. Isnt it a fact?
Ppp jab gayi to 64 billion ka loan tha aor treasury had 22 billion, noon jab gayi to 95 billion ka loan tha n treasury had only 10 billion, yeh fact kon dekhey ga? Ppp ki govt bi inflation ko 4 ya 5 kay kareeb chor ker gayi thi jo noon kay pehlay saal 10 say ooper gayi despite cheapest oil prices in decades. Ye fact kon dekhey ga?
Pti nay jo bhi wada kiya tha 5 saal ki hukumat ka kiya tha 13 months ka nahi.
Aor koi sawal? Lol
It was 121 when PTI got government; anyway not much difference now it is on 156. If Ishaq Dar threw dollar then PTI government threw more than that. PTI threw 16 Billion dollars in one year but GDP shrunk to 2.4. Yes PML(N) time loan increase from 64 to 95 billion but now only in one year it increased 16 billion; do rest of the math. In one year at least there would have been same as PML(N) but why everything negative?
 

Vulcan Vendetta

MPA (400+ posts)
It was 121 when PTI got government; anyway not much difference now it is on 156. If Ishaq Dar threw dollar then PTI government threw more than that. PTI threw 16 Billion dollars in one year but GDP shrunk to 2.4. Yes PML(N) time loan increase from 64 to 95 billion but now only in one year it increased 16 billion; do rest of the math. In one year at least there would have been same as PML(N) but why everything negative?
Where do u get information from? Lol
Pti did not throw a single dollar in open market to hold dollar value. Do u even know wat u r talking about? Ur story of numbers clearly shows that u do not have slightest of idea wat any of those mean lol. I actually feel stupid teaching u about economy when u r so ridiculously throwing numbers around like a kid throws the ball around on his first day outside home on a cricket ground lol.
But lets play anyway, pti govt had to return loan installment of 12 billion in first 3 months when ur national treasury had a total of 10 billion to run country, so please tell me how was pti supposed to return that money if they had not taken a new loan?
In first 2 years of pti govt, Pakistan has to return a total of 29 billion of loan, tell me where that money is supposed to come from? U know noon left economy in deficit so u cannot say country is making any money lol. So tell me how is that loan supposed to b repayed?
So when u look at this one number n start jumping around that pti has taken so much loan who is gonna look at how much payments they have made for the loan ppp n noon took? Answer that
Please i request u do not talk about math because ur logics, knowledge n stats r just funny, u cannot talk about math without an equal to "=" sign.
So i can say pti loans = loan payments + tax refunds + less deficit
Whats ur nooni loan equal to? Wat did they do when loan actually doubled inside n out, trade was in deficit, current account was in deficit.......so wat does that loan equals?
 

Vulcan Vendetta

MPA (400+ posts)
It was 121 when PTI got government; anyway not much difference now it is on 156. If Ishaq Dar threw dollar then PTI government threw more than that. PTI threw 16 Billion dollars in one year but GDP shrunk to 2.4. Yes PML(N) time loan increase from 64 to 95 billion but now only in one year it increased 16 billion; do rest of the math. In one year at least there would have been same as PML(N) but why everything negative?
Sorry ek baat bhool gia, who told u Pakistan has taken 16 billion of loan? Lol
When noon left loan was 95 billion, now its 101......so?
U know when they say 16 billion they include future commitments? Like IMF approved 6 billion but they have only given around 2 so far, so u gonna count 6 or the 2 that u have actually recieved? Baki 4 to abhi na aaya na kisi nay use kiya , similarly saudi gave 3 billion of deferred payment facility n ur nooniya leaders count it as loan, its not that traditional loan its the money u had to pay today to buy oil but due to this deal u will pay it later. Its not loan its the facility that u can take oil today n pay for it later. China gave 3 billion to keep in ur national treasury n its interest free but u cannot use that money u just keep it to improve ur credit rating , ur nooniya leaders count it as loan but its not a loan when u r not even using it. For example, foreign embassies ask u to give ur bank statement before they give u visa n u ask ur cousin to transfer 20 lakh into ur account for 3 months, is that a traditional loan? No its not because u r just keeping it for 3 months n return it without interest, so wats the loss? So get ur facts straight before u start throwing numbers around
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sorry ek baat bhool gia, who told u Pakistan has taken 16 billion of loan? Lol
When noon left loan was 95 billion, now its 101......so?
U know when they say 16 billion they include future commitments? Like IMF approved 6 billion but they have only given around 2 so far, so u gonna count 6 or the 2 that u have actually recieved? Baki 4 to abhi na aaya na kisi nay use kiya , similarly saudi gave 3 billion of deferred payment facility n ur nooniya leaders count it as loan, its not that traditional loan its the money u had to pay today to buy oil but due to this deal u will pay it later. Its not loan its the facility that u can take oil today n pay for it later. China gave 3 billion to keep in ur national treasury n its interest free but u cannot use that money u just keep it to improve ur credit rating , ur nooniya leaders count it as loan but its not a loan when u r not even using it. For example, foreign embassies ask u to give ur bank statement before they give u visa n u ask ur cousin to transfer 20 lakh into ur account for 3 months, is that a traditional loan? No its not because u r just keeping it for 3 months n return it without interest, so wats the loss? So get ur facts straight before u start throwing numbers around
Net increase is 6 billion or more but overall loan taken are 16 Billions


Oil was 72 Rs/litre in Nawaz era for many years but it is 115 Rs. per litre despite low oil price
Here is historical price chart:


Electricity prices are high
I am looking deep for positives by PTI but not finding anything
Increase in duty and decrease in demand has caused trade deficit decreased. Trade deficit reduce not due to increase in exports but decrease in imports.