Drones: A Price Worth Paying? - Why only question mark on Imran Khan?

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Every time Imran Khan makes some big move, there are questions and only questions from all sides. Now also, because he is moving to Waziristan for Aman March it is the same. Some say Jewish are behind to make Obama lose election. Some asking why not go to North Waziristan. Some saying he will put people in danger. Also saying he is in favour of terrorists and wants to be their friend and they are calling him for talks.

Then they say why will Taliban support? When they threat, then say see now all foreigners and locals will die and suicide bombers will come. But nobody try to understand what is real reasons behind this Aman March and why Imran Khan wants to go. My favourite writer Mr Ahmer always writes on his blog and explains clearly with all details. On this topic also he has written a new article which you can read. http://redwishdotcom.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/drones-a-price-worth-paying/
 
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jagga9

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Re: Why only question mark on Imran Khan?

lol .. bcuz if IK will be in power after party elections. All the mafias will be broken automatically. He has the trust of people and his 15 years campaign can make a big difference.

Media is a mafia ... the biggest one .. just imagine a journalist threatning ISI and army . like army used to threat and malign its test tube politicians .....
politicians want to enjoy perks and privilges they have enjoyed ..
taliban will not be able to keep weapons . inshaAllah .
karachi will be sorted ..
IK will build instituions and good ppl will be in politics .... inshaAllah he will be able to do it . bcuz so many people in pakistan pray for him daily ...
 

Aadmi

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Re: Why only question mark on Imran Khan?

Media is biased, they are all targeting IK, whatever he does is portrayed negatively in the media. These so called sahafis are the biggest traitors of this country.but inshALLAh ALLAH will ruin all their evil plans and give victory to IK.
 

Saboo

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Re: Why only question mark on Imran Khan?

This only tells you how freightned they really are from Imran Khan!
 

unique

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Re: Why only question mark on Imran Khan?

He has never been in power while others have hundreds of billions made from corruption. journalism is probably most corrupt institution in Pakistan where people know how to make money.
 

FANTA

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Re: Why only question mark on Imran Khan?

When Imran Khan Did Dharna on Drones in Peshawar and Karachi all anti PTI and anti Pakistan forces said " Why Imran Khan do not go to Waziristan where people are get affected from Drones, He should not do dharna in Peshawar and Karachi".

Now Imran Khan in Going to Waziristan now these BASTAR,,DS say why he is going to Waziristan. This attitude has proved that All anti Imran Khan lobbies including (Pakistani Media, PMLN,PPP,ANP,MQM,JUI) are anti Islam and anti Pakistan and are boot lickers of USA.

Jis ka koi nahi hota uss ka Allah madadgar hota hai Yaro.

Inshallah Imran Khan zaror Kamyab ho ga.
 

jony1

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Mashallah Ahmed murad voice is really a hope for the nation, He is one of them who is mare awaired of present situation
 

UKPakistani

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Whether You like IK or not, the Worls IS talking about the morality of the drones

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[h=1]Inside Pakistan's drone country[/h]
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Pakistan's tribal region of Waziristan, constantly watched and regularly bombarded by US military drones, has been called the most dangerous place on earth. The relentless assault exacts a huge psychological toll on the people who live there.
The US missile-attacks destroy militant training compounds and cars but they also hit mosques, homes, religious schools and civilian vehicles.
I witnessed the fear, stress and depression this causes for the tribal communities on a visit to the region in May.
The drones do not suddenly appear over the horizon, carry out the attack and leave. At any given time of the day, at least four are hovering in the sky, emitting a distinctive and menacing buzzing sound.
They call them "mosquitoes".

[h=2]Drones in Pakistan[/h]
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  • Recent US report highlighted "terror" felt by civilians in north-west Pakistan, where drones target areas such North and South Waziristan
  • Hundreds of low-level militant commanders and substantial minority of civilians killed
  • Exact figures difficult to compile because independent media and researchers denied access to area by authorities
  • Bureau of Investigative Journalism estimates 2,570-3,337 people killed in drone strikes, of which 474-884 were civilians
  • Living Under Drones report says top commanders account for estimated 2% of victims

"Anybody who has been listening to the buzzing all through the day usually can't sleep at night," says Abdul Waheed, a tribesman in North Waziristan.
"It's like a blind man's stick - it can hit anybody at any time."
People here tell me that it is not just Taliban and al-Qaeda members who are targeted, many ordinary citizens have been killed as well.
In some cases, tribesmen, motivated by a clan or blood feud, have pointed out a rival as a Taliban member or al-Qaeda sympathiser, they say, in the hope he will be blown to bits.
Everybody believes they could be next.
"There is only one way to sleep now," says Mateen Khan, a car mechanic in the town of Miranshah. "I take sleeping pills like many other people here. It is either that or stay awake all night."
As I drive into Waziristan via the Orakzai tribal region the road is littered with sites of drone attacks - some militant compounds, but most of all vehicles.
Locals have left markers to remember the sites and in some places burnt-out car wrecks are lying on the roadside.
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The drones' first victim: Nek Mohammad
The first prominent Taliban commander I meet is Wali Mohammad, brother of the now legendary Nek Mohammad.
Nek Mohammad, who laid the foundation of the Taliban insurgency in Pakistan, was killed in a drone strike in 2004 - the first such attack in the region. Wali Mohammad was also seriously injured, but survived.
Wali Mohammad says that most Taliban, himself included, would prefer to fight and die on the front with the enemy (Nato forces) than be killed by a drone. "I'm not afraid of the drones - but I also don't want to die in a drone attack," he says.
Taliban and local tribesmen say the drones almost always depend on a local spy, who gives word when the target is there.
Some say the spy leaves a chip or microchip at the site, which guides drones in for the kill. Others say special marker ink is used - rather like "X" marks the spot.
For this reason, many people - especially militant commanders - now leave a guard near their vehicle when they go visiting, to keep loiterers away.
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Anyone coming under suspicion is unlikely to get a hearing. The Taliban kill first and decide afterwards if the suspect was involved or not. It is better to be safe than sorry, they say.
Four drone strikes occurred during my 25-day stay in North Waziristan, two in the town of Mir Ali and two around Miranshah.
Continue reading the main story [h=2]26 May: What happened?[/h]
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Civilians report
Media reports
Attack in early hours of Saturday 26 May
Two missiles fired at house early on Saturday 26 May, say security officials
One of four drone attacks during our correspondent's stay
Third drone attack in the space of 3-5 days
Room on top of a bakery just outside Miranshah struck
Building struck outside/near Miranshah, Waziristan
Three people killed
Reports that either three or four people killed, others injured
Local people and Taliban searched the rubble, no-one clear about identities of dead
Reports that those killed were militants and that Taliban took the bodies away




One, on 26 May, hits a building in the main bazaar in central Miranshah, less than 500m from where I am staying.

It's 04:15 in the morning when the blast wakes me. Just as someone next to me says it's the sound of a missile being fired there is an angry whizzing noise overhead and then an explosion.
The gap between the missile being launched and hitting its target is just a few seconds. People run out of their homes into the street in fear. Some are rushing to the spot to see who has been hit.
A room on top of a bakery in the centre of the market has been destroyed. Some local people and Taliban are clearing the rubble. They say three people have been killed.
A few minutes later, the Taliban and locals are able to sift through the rubble and dig up the dead and injured. These are quickly taken away from the site of the attack and no-one is willing to say who they are.
When I try to speak to people and militants later, everybody gives a different answer. It seems that no-one is sure who has been killed, but before long I hear on the radio that a senior al-Qaeda leader - Abu Hafs al-Misri - is among the dead.
In the aftermath of this attack, I speak to local shopkeepers. One is very angry. He says the attacks have destroyed the lives and livelihood of the local population.
While no-one - common citizen or militant - disputes the fact that al-Qaeda leaders have been killed in the strikes, they also point to the massive "collateral damage" incurred, and the many innocent lives that have been lost.
The Taliban have no real answer or solution to the drones - so they spend most of their time trying to weed out the spies who supply information for the strikes. I see several people being arrested.
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A Taliban commander tells me most of the spies are local people recruited by Pakistan's security agencies.
Like almost all other Taliban commanders, he holds the Pakistan government and security forces responsible for the drone attacks.
The Taliban leaders say the drones will never cause them to give up.
Yet in the middle, it is the common people in these regions who continue to suffer - undergoing mental anguish every day.



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[h=1]US drone war in Pakistan prompts fear and anger[/h] By Orla Guerin BBC News, Islamabad
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Orla Guerin speaks to relatives of those who have been killed in drone strikes


[h=2]Related Stories[/h]

In Pakistan, former cricketer turned politician Imran Khan plans to lead a march to the tribal areas this weekend to protest against US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) drone strikes. Under President Barack Obama there has been a six-fold increase in drone attacks. Almost 300 strikes have been carried out since he took office.
Ijaz Ahmed tends to stay at home these days, but even at home he feels afraid.
The softly spoken young man lives with the constant buzzing of CIA drones. In the Pakistani tribal region of North Waziristan, they hover overhead day and night.
And he knows only too well what they can do. A drone killed his uncle and six cousins in late January 2009. It was President Obama's first strike in Pakistan. It has been followed by nearly 300 more.
"When I got to the site, everything was destroyed," he said. "What happened was brutal. I remember how we used to sit together and chat, but now they are gone. Their children are orphans."
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Karim Khan lost his son and his brother in a drone strike on New Year's Eve 2009
He insists the dead men were civilians, not militants.
Karim Khan, a Pakistani journalist, says the same about the loved ones he buried - his brother Asif Iqbal and his own son, Zainullah.
"He was one of the top in his class," said Karim, a robust figure in a black and grey checked Turban. "He loved cricket and he had lots of friends. He had already learned to recite the Quran. We wanted him to become a religion teacher."
But a drone killed the 16-year-old and his uncle on New Year's Eve 2009.
His father insists there were no militants in the house at the time. "Even if there had been," said Mr Khan, "would this be the way to go after them? Isn't this a violation of international law?"
He is trying to prove that point by bringing a wrongful death case against the CIA in the Pakistani courts.
Pakistan's government says drone strikes are illegal, counterproductive, and a violation of its sovereignty - but it does nothing to stop them. Officials here deny this amounts to tacit consent.
'Got you' The US government says drones are precision weapons which limit collateral damage. In a rare public comment on the drone programme in January this year, President Obama said the targets were "on an active list of terrorists".
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"Too easy to kill": the life and death decisions of a drone operator

The remote-control killers are his weapons of choice - and not only in Pakistan - but some with first-hand experience say drones make it too easy to kill.
In September 2009, James Jeffrey had a life-or-death decision to make. The former captain in the British army was in Afghanistan, monitoring live pictures from a drone. His unit had been suffering heavy losses because of the Taliban's improvised explosive devices. So when he saw what looking like a man planting a roadside bomb he thought: "Got you."
As he was about to call in the strike, another figure approached.
"This individual who walked up was a lot larger, indicating that it was probably a child in the middle of the road, just playing," he said, "and so obviously at that point the engagement was totally called off. But it was an unsettling experience because I had come fairly close to engaging that target, which was a child."
Other children have fallen victim to the drones. More than 170 have been reported killed in Pakistan since the first drone strike here in 2004. Those numbers - like all drone casualty figures - cannot be independently confirmed.

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When I saw their bodies in pieces, my heart wanted revenge... it's all I want”
Mohammed Youssef

Researchers at the London-based Bureau of Investigative Journalists, who keep a detailed count of drone casualties, say the number of women and children reported killed has fallen sharply since 2010, indicating that the Obama administration is being more careful. But they say deaths of civilian males continue to be reported.
And when civilians are killed or injured the US rarely admits it, according to a study published recently by Stanford University and New York University. There is still no official acknowledgement that a drone strike on a tribal assembly last March killed about 45 people.
"Once people are dead, the US doesn't try to work out who was a civilian," one British researcher said.
'Price too high' Pakistani lawyer Shahzad Akbar wants to speak for the dead, the wounded and the bereaved. His coffee table is laden with twisted fragments of Hellfire missiles, fired from drones.
These are "murder weapons" he says, and he hopes they will eventually be used as evidence in court. Mr Akbar, who works with the UK legal charity Reprieve, has begun a dozen legal cases on behalf of Karim Khan and others like him.
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Lawyer Shahzad Akbar is collecting fragments of drone missiles he hopes will be used in court
"These strikes are killing some bad guys as well but the price is too high," he said, holding a heavy chunk of jagged metal in his hands. "The price is a large number of civilian population which is being killed, and even a larger number which is terrorised."
As well causing terror in the tribal areas, the missiles are backfiring, according to Imran Khan. "I would go along with the bitter pill if it was working," he said. "Are they decreasing the number of militants? Are they winning the war? Everything is getting worse. There is more extremism in Pakistan than ever in our history."
US officials insist that the drones are helping to win the war against al-Qaeda. Critics here counter that they are increasing the ranks of the militants.
"We don't want to join them," said 24-year-old Mohammed Youssef, "but the drones are compelling us."
He lost two uncles and two cousins in a drone strike in North Waziristan in October 2008. "When I saw their bodies in pieces, my heart wanted revenge," he said. "I wanted to get the people responsible and finish them off the same way."
I asked if he still wanted revenge, four years on. "Even now it's in my heart," he replied. "It's all I want."



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[h=1]American activists in Pakistan to protest U.S. drone strikes[/h] By Shaan Khan and Jethro Mullen, CNN
October 5, 2012 -- Updated 1604 GMT (0004 HKT)

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Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin protests outside a meeting of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on July 14, 2010.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

  • NEW: An activist says the group is in Pakistan to apologize for "the killing and suffering"
  • The protesters plan to wear pink clothes, carry banners and recite anti-drone chants
  • The organization, Code Pink, has organized U.S. antiwar demonstrations
  • The drone strike program in Pakistan has long been controversial


Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- About 35 American activists dressed in pink are expected to take part in a demonstration Friday in Islamabad against U.S. drone strikes that target militants in Pakistan.
The U.S. protesters, from the anti-war group Code Pink, are visiting Pakistan to make contact with people affected by the drone strikes and draw the attention of the American public to the situation in areas where the attacks take place.
"We are here to say, on behalf of those Americans with a conscience, that we apologize to the people of Pakistan for the killing and suffering" caused by the drones, Medea Benjamin, one of the founders of Code Pink, said at a news conference Thursday in Islamabad.
Organized in conjunction with a British advocacy group, the rally Friday is scheduled to take place in one of the Pakistani capital's busiest market places. The protesters say they plan to wear bright pink clothes, carry banners and recite anti-drone chants.
The drone strike program in Pakistan has long been controversial, with conflicting reports on its impact from the U.S. government, Pakistani officials and independent organizations.
American officials insist that the choice and execution of the strikes -- begun under former President George W. Bush and ramped up under President Barack Obama -- meet strict standards and that cases of civilian deaths or injuries are extremely rare.
But a study released last month by Stanford Law School and New York University's School of Law said the drone attacks had killed far more people than the United States acknowledges, traumatized innocent residents and been largely ineffective. Civilians account for a significant portion of those killed, the study said.
The drone program is deeply unpopular in Pakistan, where the national parliament voted in April to end any authorization for it.
Code Pink's demonstration Friday in Islamabad is the precursor to a bigger, more ambitious protest over drone strikes in which the group plans to participate over the weekend.
The activists say they hope to join cricket-star-turned-politician Imran Khan and his party, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, in a march to South Waziristan, part of Pakistan's ungoverned tribal region along the Afghanistan border where drone strikes are frequent.
But the activists say they are unsure if the Pakistani government will allow them to take part in the march to the restive region.
The neighboring district, North Waziristan, is widely believed to be the headquarters of the Haqqani network -- a militant group Washington has long accused of fueling some of the deadliest attacks against NATO troops in Afghanistan.
If the authorities prevent them from participating in the march to South Waziristan, the Code Pink activists say they will invite people from the area affected by the drone strikes to join them in a large gathering in Islamabad.
They say they are also considering the possibility of a hunger strike outside the U.S. Embassy in the capital.
Code Pink says on its website that the broader goal of its Pakistan trip is to "stop the drone strikes and get compensation for the families of civilians killed by the strikes." It has held meetings in Islamabad this week with victims of the strikes and U.S. officials.
The women-led organization became known for antiwar demonstrations in Washington during the U.S. buildup in Iraq. The group has held protests over a range of different international issues.
Code Pink has regularly disrupted high-profile congressional hearings dealing with war and national defense issues, as well as interrupting speeches by foreign officials like Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel.
Among the activists with the Code Pink delegation in Pakistan at the moment is Ann Wright, a former U.S. Army colonel and State Department official who quit her post to protest the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
In an appearance this week on the Pakistani television station Geo TV, Wright said that U.S. drone strikes are a violation of Pakistan's sovereignty and are fueling anti-American sentiment in the region.
When the Pakistani television host asked Wright to respond to accusations that she was a radical activist, she said jokingly, "I'm a radical peace activist."


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[h=1]Imran Khan plans rally against CIA drone attacks in Pakistan tribal area[/h]

[h=3]By Richard Leiby, Updated: Friday, October 5, 4:35 PM[/h]
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — In his upstart campaign to become Pakistan’s next prime minister, Imran Khan, a magnetic former cricket star and ardent foe of U.S. policy, draws delirious crowds by the tens of thousands who seemingly would follow him anywhere. But this weekend, Khan, who wants to lead his supporters into the dangerous tribal region to protest CIA drone attacks, appears to be headed for a roadblock: Pakistan’s formidable military.
Khan has promised to stage a massive rally Sunday in South Waziristan, where the Pakistani army has tamped down but not defeated a fierce Islamist insurgency. Khan picked the location partly for political stagecraft: For years, he has called for an end to the drone campaign, which rains missiles on al-Qaeda and other militant groups in Pakistan’s tribal areas, including South Waziristan.








Khan, who has polled for two successive years as the nation’s most popular politician, this week assembled about 35 drone opponents, principally from the Washington antiwar group Codepink, to join what he calls his “tsunami” for change. Now the question dominating the political dialogue is whether that wave will be allowed to crash into Taliban territory.
The military insists that the decision rests with the civilian leadership, but, in fact, the army controls access to the restive tribal belt, which borders Afghanistan. The debate highlights tensions inherent in Pakistan’s governance: Although the politicians in Parliament and the executive branch have a vote on domestic and foreign policy, the army and its spy services essentially hold veto power.
“This is a peace march. We are not there to pick a fight with anyone,” Khan said in an interview Thursday. “The army, if they think they can’t provide protection beyond a certain point, they’ll tell us that.”
In the past, some analysts have portrayed Khan as a military-backed candidate because of his support for some right-wing Islamists who are considered proxies for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the chief spy agency. But as his party, Tehrik-i-Insaaf (Justice Movement), has gained significant popular support, he now has been talking more forcefully about reining in the security establishment to make it bow before the constitution.
In the interview at his spacious but simply appointed home outside the capital, he described major political party leaders as “nurtured by military dictators.” Referring to the generals, he said, “They don’t allow natural leadership to come up because they want controllables.”
100,000 expected
Khan’s plan is to depart Saturday from Islamabad with a convoy, including foreigners and journalists, to reach the South Waziristan border by nightfall, then head to the rally site about 30 miles farther west.
Local authorities have voiced concern about the march, which Khan’s party predicts will draw 100,000 people. (Previous rallies in Lahore and Karachi drew double that or more.) Pakistan’s seven Federally Administered Tribal Areas are generally off-limits to anyone except the people who live there.

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American protestors join Pakistan protest against drone attacks to 'apologise on behalf of those with a conscience'


  • American anti-war group Code Pink will protest in Pakistan today
  • They hope to highlight the impacts of U.S. drone attacks on the country
  • Imran Khan will lead a peace march through Pakistan at the weekend

PUBLISHED: 15:05, 5 October 2012 | UPDATED: 15:05, 5 October 2012

American protestors will join in protests in Pakistan against drone attacks to apologise on behalf of those with a conscience.
Campaigners from the anti-war group Code Pink, are visiting Pakistan to make contact with people affected by the drone strikes and draw the attention of the American public to the impact of attacks.
Organised in conjunction with a British advocacy group, the rally is to take place today in one of the Pakistani capital's busiest market places. The protesters will recite anti-drone chants, wear bright pink clothes and carry banners.

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Pink protest: American anti-war group Code Pink (pictured is a campaigner on a previous protest) will hold a demonstration in Pakistan against U.S. drone attacks



Medea Benjamin, one of the groups founders said yesterday: We are here to say, on behalf of those Americans with a conscience, that we apologize to the people of Pakistan for the killing and suffering (caused by the drones).
The drone strike program in Pakistan has a controversial history, with conflicting reports on its impact from the U.S. government, Pakistani officials and independent organisations.

American officials insist that the choice and execution of the strikes, which begun under former President George W. Bush and ramped up under President Barack Obama, meet strict standards and that civilian deaths or injuries are extremely rare.
Drone attacks are said to have killed far more people than the United States acknowledges, traumatised innocent residents and been largely ineffective according to a study released last month by Stanford Law School and New York University's School of Law. Civilians account for a significant portion of those killed, the study said.
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Highlight attacks: Code Pink want to draw attention to the impact where drone attacks occur (pictured is the site of a 2008 attack) which are given conflicting reports on their impact by American, Pakistani and independent organisations



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'Apologise': American protesters will join demonstrations in Pakistan against U.S. drone attacks to 'apologise to the people of Pakistan for the killing and suffering' (pictured is a U.S. unmanned predator drone)



The drone program is deeply unpopular in Pakistan, where the national parliament voted in April to end any authorisation for it.
Code Pink's demonstration on Friday is the precursor to a bigger, more ambitious protest over drone strikes in which the group plans to participate over the weekend.
Pakistani politician Imran Khan insisted the march to the countrys restive tribal areas, where Taliban and Al-Qaeda-linked militants have strongholds, will happen as planned despite security fears and doubts over whether authorities would allow it.
Western journalists and anti-drone campaigners will join political party Pakistan Tekreek-e-Insaaf or Pakistan Movement for Justice (PIT), headed by Mr Khan, in a convoy from Islamabad to South Waziristan at the weekend to protest against U.S. drone strikes.
The march, which includes the British head of charity Reprieve Clive Stafford Smith and 30 American anti-drone campaigners, plan to visited areas where access is strictly controlled by Pakistan and independent access for foreigners is banned.
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March will go on: Cricket legend turned politician Imran Khan insists the peach march against the use of U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan will go on despite conflicting reports of whether protesters will have access to restricted areas they plan to visit

There have been conflicting reports this week about whether protesters have permission to enter South Waziristan and if so, by whom but cricketing legend turned politician, Mr Khan, insists it will go on.
A spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban told AFP that the umbrella militia, which is fighting an insurgency against the government and whose members are killed by U.S. missiles, had not yet formulated its position on the march but Mr Khan said the Taliban had given their agreement through intermediaries in the tribal areas.
He said: The tribes have got in touch with the militants and the tribes have told us that it's fine, they have no objections to it
I still don't understand, why is the government going to stop us when they know neither the militants are objecting to this, neither the tribal areas are objecting to this and certainly the army's not objecting to this?
According to The Daily Times, Mr Khan said: Of drones I think two words its immoral and its insane.

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Anti-war: Code Pink, an all-women organisation, have become known for their anti-war demonstrations in Washington (protester pictured in 2006 march)

Immoral because you cannot justify eliminating suspects and insane because its counterproductive.
All it does is it turns more people against the US, hatred grows and the beneficiaries of this insanity are the militants.
Mr Khan said the protesters, which plan to march to the village of Kotkai and rally there, will not be stopped if authorities intervene. They will just hold the rally wherever they are stopped.
Code Pink activists say that if the march is stopped, they will invite people from the area affected by the drone strikes to join them in a large gathering in Islamabad.
They say they are also considering the possibility of a hunger strike outside the U.S. Embassy in the capital.
The women-led organisation became known for anti-war demonstrations in Washington during the U.S. build up in Iraq. The group has held protests over a range of different international issues.
They have regularly disrupted high-profile congressional hearings relating to war and national defence issues, as well as interrupting speeches by foreign officials like Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel.
Among the activists with the Code Pink delegation in Pakistan at the moment is Ann Wright, a former U.S. Army colonel and State Department official who quit her post to protest the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
In an appearance this week on the Pakistani television station Geo TV, Wright said that U.S. drone strikes are a violation of Pakistan's sovereignty and are fuelling anti-American sentiment in the region.
When the Pakistani television host asked Wright to respond to accusations that she was a radical activist, she said: I'm a radical peace activist.


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All of you thinking this is not a worthwhile exercise, need to think again.

Pakistan never gets this sort of coverage globally, and NO ONE is saying these drone attacks are worthwhile

It is bringing this to the attention of the whole world. So apprecaite the effort, even if you do not like it
 

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[h=1]Pakistan: Imran Khan In Protest Over Drones[/h]
[h=2]Cricketer turned politician Imran Khan says US drone strikes along the Afghan-Pakistan border are a crime against humanity.[/h] 2:40am UK, Saturday 06 October 2012l



By Alex Rossi, Asia Correspondent

Pakistani politician Imran Khan has insisted his "peace march" against the US use of drone airstrikes will go ahead despite widespread security fears.
The former international cricketer has dismissed government warnings about marching into South Waziristan, which is a Taliban stronghold.
He plans to arrive in the area on Sunday in a convoy and hold a rally that will include a number of American peace activists.
But the authorities say they cannot guarantee the safety of the people taking part - especially the foreigners - and have branded Mr Khan irresponsible.
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Imran Khan believes drone strikes are a crime against humanity The opposition leader, though, is unfazed.
He says the march has been invited into the area by the three main tribes and they have promised that the demonstrators will not come to any harm.
"The tribes have got in touch with the militants and the tribes have told us that it is fine, they have no objections to it," he told a news conference.
The security issue, however, is far from straightforward.
There were earlier reports that the demonstration would be targeted by militants.
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A US Predator drone in flight That said, the march has struck a chord with many people inside Pakistan who are furious with the US over its policy of drone strikes.
Under the authority of the US President, thousands of attacks using unmanned drone aircraft have been carried out on Pakistani territory since 2004.
Most of the strikes have been in the tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan.
The US claims the area is being used as a springboard and training ground for militants, who then carry out attacks on Nato forces and civilians in Afghanistan.
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Top al Qaeda leader Abu Yahya was killed by a drone strike in June But Pakistani politicians like Imran Khan say drones are not the answer.
"Drone strikes are a crime against humanity. The whole world will be told how drones are destructive and counterproductive through this march," he said.
The United Nations Human Rights Council is also increasingly critical of the tactic.
It claims the US has failed to keep track of civilian casualties and show in clear and "accountable" terms that the people being targeted are militants.

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Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Brother,they all understand but in their BUGHAZ they can not accept that. These Nay-Sayers do not have the courage to do what PTI is doing and feel threatened by PTI's program there fore they HAVE NO OPTION but to oppose.
The response of the Nay-Sayers is their absolute majboori, they have no other option other than give strength to the right reasons,which they have deliberately chosen not to do.
 

Jarral

Citizen
Re: Why only question mark on Imran Khan?

Not only in Pakistan
We got a cricket club 45 out of 46and one is 50/50 allways pray for him
in our 3 football teams non of us against this great person,from mirpur ak to jehlum and Afghanistan to Arabs balochi to Sindhi all punjabi and with the grace of Allah Urdu speaking mqm member as wel feel hope for good of only powerful Muslim country in only one man it is great khan,Allah protect him for a really free Pakistan so we can go back to our homeland,caus me my friends and our families are still the same ,changing passports can not get our hearts and soul out of our just alive body,I am not Pakistani,a Kashmiri always fighting for good and expension of Pakistan,we will start in our own land anything,we need freedom not $$ watch we are coming soon with khan,do not let your country down
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
[h=1]Americans in Pakistan to protest drone strikes[/h]
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American citizens invite people to join anti-drone rally to Pakistani tribal area, in Islamabad, Pakistan, Friday, Oct. 5, 2012. A group of American anti-war activists are in Pakistan with plans to join a “march” into the country’s tribal belt to protest U.S. drone strikes in the rugged northwest territory. Their presence has energized some Pakistanis, but it also has added to concerns that Islamist militants will target the weekend event. Writing on a vest, right, reads "we, Americans are against drones." (AP Photo/B.K. Bangash)

By ZARAR KHAN
Associated Press / October 5, 2012

ISLAMABAD (AP) — A group of American anti-war activists are in Pakistan to join a march into the country’s tribal belt to protest U.S. drone strikes in the rugged northwest territory. Their presence has energized organizers behind the protest but also added to concerns that Islamist militants will target the weekend event.

The two-day march — in reality a long convoy — is to be led by Imran Khan, the former cricket star-turned-politician who has become a top critic of the American drone strikes in Pakistan.

It is to start Saturday in Islamabad and end in a town in South Waziristan, a tribal region that has been a major focus of drone strikes as well as the scene of a Pakistani army offensive against militants.

Khan, like many Pakistanis, alleges that the drone strikes have killed large numbers of innocent civilians and terrorized the tribes living along the Afghan border.

The U.S. rarely discusses the top-secret program, but American officials have said the majority of those killed are Pakistani Taliban and al-Qaida militants and that the missiles used in the strikes are very precise.

The American activists — around three dozen representatives of the U.S.-based activist group CODEPINK — along with Clive Stafford Smith, founder of the London-based legal advocacy organization Reprieve, want to march with Khan and publicize the plight of communities affected by the U.S. drones.

Ahead of the march, local media carried reports Friday of alleged suicide bombings planned against the demonstration and a pamphlet distributed in a town along the march route warned participants they would face danger. The main Pakistani Taliban faction issued a statement criticizing the event.

The foreign activists, meanwhile, met with relatives of people said to have been killed in drone attacks. The group also marched in the capital’s Jinnah Supermarket, chanting ‘‘Stop, stop drone attacks!’’ and singing ‘‘We are marching to Waziristan.’’

One placard said: ‘‘Drones fly, Children die.’’

Sherabaz Khan, 45, said he lost two brothers in a March 17, 2011, drone strike in Datta Khel, a town in North Waziristan. ‘‘My brothers were attending a tribal council to settle a business dispute in a timber deal, and they were killed,’’ he said. ‘‘None of the people killed were militants.’’

Many of the foreigners expressed sympathy. ‘‘We have learned here from victims’ families how innocent people, children and women are being killed. Enough is enough. We should stop these attacks,’’ said Linda Wenning of Portland, Oregon.

Access to Pakistan’s tribal regions is heavily restricted, and foreigners for the most part are forbidden from entering; it was unclear whether the Westerners wishing to participate in the anti-drone march would get permission to enter. South Waziristan has theoretically been under the army’s control since its late 2009 operation there, but militants still roam the area.

Ahsanullah Ahsan, the spokesman for the main Pakistani Taliban faction, issued a statement Friday calling Khan, the ex-cricket star, a ‘‘slave of the West’’ and saying that the militants ‘‘don’t need any sympathy’’ from such ‘‘a secular and liberal person.’’

Ahsan refused to reveal anything about the militants’ plans regarding the march, but added: ‘‘Imran Khan’s so-called Peace March is not in sympathy for drone-hit Muslims. Instead, it’s an attempt by him to increase his political stature.’’

The local newspapers carried short items referring to an Interior Ministry warning that several suicide bombers planned to attack the march. Separately, pamphlets signed by a group calling itself the Army of the Caliphate were distributed in Tank, a town just outside South Waziristan. The fliers criticized Khan as an ‘‘agent of America, Israel and Jews.’’

‘‘People are sincerely and emphatically advised to stay away from the public meeting, and anyone suffering any loss of life will himself be responsible in this world and in the world afterward,’’ the documents warned.

Officials with Khan’s political party, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, said late Friday there were no plans to stop the march or change its ultimate destination, despite the warnings from militants groups. The demonstrators intend to reach Kotkai, a town in South Waziristan, and stage a rally there that they hope will attract tens of thousands of people.

On Thursday, Khan told a press conference that South Waziristan tribal leaders had assured him that he and his entourage would be protected there. Still, he did allude to the possibility that entering the tribal area might not be possible, saying that the marchers would go as far as they could, and stage their rally wherever they decided to stop.

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UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Why only question mark on Imran Khan?

5 October 2012 Last updated at 17:40

[h=1]Imran Khan: From cricketing aristocrat to political player[/h] By M Ilyas Khan BBC News, Islamabad

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Imran Khan's career has had ups and downs but he still demands media interest
Continue reading the main story [h=2]Related Stories[/h]

Imran Khan is a former international cricketer-turned-politician who launched his Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf party in 1996. But it is only in recent months that he has emerged as a serious player on the Pakistani political scene.
His most recent manoeuvre is a bid to extend competitive politics to Pakistan's north-western tribal belt, a region governed by tribal customs and traditional elders.
He is organising a long march to Waziristan to protest against US drone strikes. Critics say this is simply to revive flagging popularity but supporters say it shows he is in touch with the ordinary concerns of Pakistani people.
Mr Khan had an illustrious career in international cricket, spanning two decades during the 1970s and 80s. He was the most successful Pakistani cricket captain, leading his team to their only World Cup triumph in 1992.
He also developed a reputation as something of a playboy on the London nightclub circuit, though he denies that he ever drank alcohol or engaged in any activities that may be considered inappropriate for a conservative Pakistani Muslim.
Many say his subsequent forays into the fields of philanthropy and politics were a desire to put to use the leadership qualities he displayed and the goodwill he earned internationally as a cricketer.
Sagging popularity One of Mr Khan's lasting achievements has been to raise worldwide funds to set up one of Pakistan's most well-established cancer treatment facilities - the Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital, named after his mother. The hospital was opened in 1996, the year he launched his party.
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Cricketing success has kept Mr Khan in the spotlight long after the end of his sporting career
As a politician, Mr Khan's views have often shifted or been somewhat vague. Many accuse him of taking U-turns on issues, something that prevents people from taking him seriously.
He upholds liberalism but at the same time appeals to Islamic values and anti-West sentiment.
He has been campaigning against corruption and dynastic politics in Pakistan, and has promised to raise a whole new class of "clean" politicians from the platform of his PTI party.
But a surge in his popularity late last year saw his party accept within its folds a long list of traditional politicians deserting their respective parties for greener pastures ahead of the coming elections.
These politicians flocked to the PTI following Mr Khan's huge political rally in the eastern city of Lahore late last year.
Soon afterwards, another big rally in Karachi seemed to establish him as a serious contender on the political scene - finally coming into his own after dabbling in the political wilderness for more than a decade.
But his popularity has been sagging in recent months, due mainly to questions over whether he could seriously bring about change with a team that comprises tried and tested politicians.
This has also led to squabbles within his party, leading to the exit of some prominent old-timers.
Some of the newcomers to the party have also deserted it in recent months, indicating an erosion of public support, at least for now.
Itinerant path While his domestic political career has had its highs and lows, Imran Khan has remained in the spotlight because of his status as a national cricketer and, in 1995, at the age of 43, he married the 21-year-old British socialite, Jemima Goldsmith - the daughter of one of the richest men in the world, Sir James Goldsmith.
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Imran Khan and Jemima Goldsmith's union was dissolved in 2004 but the couple remain friends
The marriage produced two boys but was dissolved in 2004.
Those who have been following the couple's career closely say their marriage suffered due to differences in their cultural, social and financial backgrounds and also due to the itinerant nature of Mr Khan's political career that kept him away from home.
The dissolution was amicable, and Mr Khan appears to have maintained a friendly relationship with his ex-wife.
In August 2011 she joined him in Islamabad for a campaign against drone strikes in which she was reported to have distributed cameras to some tribesmen to record evidence of civilian deaths because of such strikes.
It is hard to overestimate the impact of drone strikes on Pakistani sentiment. It is a cause of significant public anger and discontent.
Whether or not Imran Khan and his party can reap electoral benefits from such resentment is still unclear. For the time being, the popularity of the march to Waziristan will be a measure of his ability to rally public support.

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For those of you still thinking...............

When was the last time ANY Pakistani politician, received coverage like this. I guess this is all the work of General Pasha, that every single Western News Agency TV Radio or Print is giving this so much coverage


Imran is on the World stage politically, for ALL the right reasons........


For those of you hating him............. Admire, and suffer and wish, the Tinds, the Zardaris the Rajas and Gillanis and the fat pig terrorists could not buy the coverage IK is getting today and tomorrow

Go Imran !!
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
[h=1]Pakistani Taliban TTP warns Imran Khan ahead of drones march[/h] Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan says it will not protect 'westernised' Khan during protest march through dangerous tribal region



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Imran Khan, centre, chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, has led a high-profile campaign against US drone strikes. Photograph: A Majeed/AFP/Getty Images

The Pakistani Taliban has launched a scathing attack on Imran Khan as he prepares to lead a "peace march" against US drone strikes.
A spokesman for the group said it would not provide protection to the former cricketer as he leads what organisers hope will be tens of thousands of protesters, including several US peace activists, into the country's most dangerous region of Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) on Sunday. The area has been off limits for years because of the complex war being fought between the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and the Pakistani army.
The TTP has rejected "baseless" reports that it would protect Khan, who has led the high-profile campaign against the CIA's unmanned aircraft attacks on Fata, which have killed many leading militants. "Our mujahideen are not so priceless that we deploy them to protect a westernised and secular personality," the spokesman, Ehsanullah Ehsan, said.
Khan regularly attacks Pakistan's westernised liberals, earning him the nicknames "Taliban Khan" and "Clean-shaved Mullah".
But the TTP have been unimpressed by his credentials as a man of the religious right, describing him as a "slave of the west".
"Imran Khan's so-called peace march is not in sympathy for drone-hit Muslims but only to increase his political popularity," it said. The group added that it would not reveal whether it planned to attack Khan's convoy, in order to protect "military tactics".
In recent days, other militants in the area have warned of dangers to the marchers. On Thursday in Tank, one of Fata's administrative units, leaflets from a little-known militant group called Mujahideen Jaishul Khilafa were circulated, warning people not to participate in the rally.
If anything "unpleasant happened", Khan should be held responsible, the leaflets warned, adding: "On the politics of drone, [Khan] is promoting the Jewish agenda and Christianity."
Khan had claimed the militants had no problem with his plan to march to the town of Kotkai in South Waziristan. "The tribes have got in touch with the militants and the tribes have told us that it's fine, they have no objections to it," he said.
But even without Taliban opposition, doubts have increased over whether he will succeed in entering the region, despite claims by Khan's supporters that the army had given its blessing.
Some officials from Fata were adamant the protesters would not be given permission to enter the territory. "[Khan] should realise he is going to put everyone in danger," Tafsheen Khan, the chief secretary, warned.
Joining supporters of the Khan-led Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf are foreign anti-war activists, including a largely female contingent from the US group Code Pink, and Clive Stafford Smith, the director of the British human rights group Reprieve.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Wow! Imran Khan already created so much awareness worldwide about innocent people being killed
by drones, and he hasn;t even started his march yet! Did some bloody fools say, it will be a fruitless excercise?