Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is a very interesting dialouge between a soldier molvi who has some good knowledge about Deen and a takfeeri mufti. the mufti is justifying the killing of innocent people and call all those murtid who don't accept their ideology. even he called Imam e kaaba a puppit and munafiq.



 
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virus

Senator (1k+ posts)
is mufti nay to hum sub ko murtaed bana diya bhai :(:(:(:(

yeh mufti nahe balkay zeehni mareez hay :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: muslamano ki sub say muqadas jaga khana qaba
ALLAH ki zaat jisse 20 martba rehmat ki nazar say dekhtay hain usay apne ghar jane ki tufeeq atta fermatay hain ur jo shaks hay hi har waqat us ghar main to woh keasay ghalat ho sakta hay
 

onlykami

MPA (400+ posts)
main waisay tu donon k mukhalif hon per waisay fauji k pass aik b daleel nai thi
 
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Waseem

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main waisay tu donon k mukhalif hon per waisay fauji k pass aik b daleel nai thi

Jahil ke baat ka jawab kisi ke pass nahi hota, meray muslaman ya kafir honay ka faisla Allah ne kernay hay, kisi jahil mullah ne nahi.
Keya aap ne notice keya fauji ne aik bar bhi nahi kaha k tum murtid ya kafir ho jub ke wo mullah bar bar na sirf uss fauji ko balkay
tum muslmano ko kafir keh raha tha jo ke uss ke idelogy ko nahi manatay. aab aap he batain aisay insan se aap kis terha behas ker
saktay hain jo aap ko muslman he nahi manta?
 

onlykami

MPA (400+ posts)
aap super moderator hain aur sath hi main meri posts & threads k dushman isi lya baat kartay huay darta hon, khair main pehlay hi keh chuka hon k main donon k khilaf hon so main kisi ki side nai lay raha hon aap nay jo kaha baja hai per is k ilawa ki baat kar raha hon k fauhi apnay aap ko kisi taur us mulla say behtar sabit nai kar saka

Jahil ke baat ka jawab kisi ke pass nahi hota, meray muslaman ya kafir honay ka faisla Allah ne kernay hay, kisi jahil mullah ne nahi.
Keya aap ne notice keya fauji ne aik bar bhi nahi kaha k tum murtid ya kafir ho jub ke wo mullah bar bar na sirf uss fauji ko balkay
tum muslmano ko kafir keh raha tha jo ke uss ke idelogy ko nahi manatay. aab aap he batain aisay insan se aap kis terha behas ker
saktay hain jo aap ko muslman he nahi manta?
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Jahil ke baat ka jawab kisi ke pass nahi hota, meray muslaman ya kafir honay ka faisla Allah ne kernay hay, kisi jahil mullah ne nahi.
Keya aap ne notice keya fauji ne aik bar bhi nahi kaha k tum murtid ya kafir ho jub ke wo mullah bar bar na sirf uss fauji ko balkay
tum muslmano ko kafir keh raha tha jo ke uss ke idelogy ko nahi manatay. aab aap he batain aisay insan se aap kis terha behas ker
saktay hain jo aap ko muslman he nahi manta?
Assalam-o-alaikum
Waseem bhai i didnot expect this reply from you. As this is audio clip that is not knowing who is aalim & who is fauji.
Many brothers have posted similar youtube videos in which two different maulanas are fighting..
So point is WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD..
What army doing is correct or not.. (similar videos are being posted on this site)
What mullahs doing are correct or not.. (similar videos posted on this site)
Point is that IS BEING A MUNAFIQUE OK. DO WE NEED FATWA FROM MAULANA or WE CAN JUDGE OUR SELVES.
EVERY ONE HAVE TO GO INTO HIS or HER GRAVE. IF ANY MULLAH OR AALIM IS SPREADING FALSE & HATE HE WILL FACE ALLAH WRATH or JAZA/SAZA..
So spread words of love & peace.. Dont create more hate & be part of this crime..
I know for some this is juicy topic to start a thread & post videos to start cursing MULLAH, ISLAM, MUSLIM etc etc..
Sorry if i have hurt any one.
Jaza-k-ALLAH
ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM WARAHMATULLAH
 

Waseem

Moderator
Staff member
aap super moderator hain aur sath hi main meri posts & threads k dushman isi lya baat kartay huay darta hon, khair main pehlay hi keh chuka hon k main donon k khilaf hon so main kisi ki side nai lay raha hon aap nay jo kaha baja hai per is k ilawa ki baat kar raha hon k fauhi apnay aap ko kisi taur us mulla say behtar sabit nai kar saka

Janab aap bayfiker rahain mai kisi ko ikhtlaf e raye ke wja se kisi ke sath imitiyzi salook nahi kerta.

Pehli baat tou yeah hay ke zaroori nahi ke dono ke pass aik jaisa ilm ho, ab ager aik mufti hay aur dosra aik aam fauji jawan tou dono ka koe muqabla banta nahi. noujwan ne apni se koshish ke, zati tou pe mai ussi ke baat ko theek samjhta houn.

Aap ko uss nujawan ke batoun pe ihtraz hay ya sirf uss ke fauji honay ke wja say aap uss ke khialf hain?
 

Waseem

Moderator
Staff member
Assalam-o-alaikum
Wa'alikum as salam bhai.

Waseem bhai i didnot expect this reply from you.

Sorry bhai didn't get you, did I say something wrong, bahi I respect all ulemas but I just didn't like the way that mufti was lcalling everyone as kafir and murtid he is no one to decide this.

As this is audio clip that is not knowing who is aalim & who is fauji.
Many brothers have posted similar youtube videos in which two different maulanas are fighting..
So point is WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD..

I don't know, thread op can tell us better why did he post it here, and about who is alim and who is fauji I believe the one who is asking question is fauji and the other person who was replying was a talban's mufti, who was calling everybody a kafir.

What army doing is correct or not.. (similar videos are being posted on this site)

If the army is killing thos who want to impose their idelogy and playing in the hands of our enemies then I think army is doing right thing.

What mullahs doing are correct or not.. (similar videos posted on this site)

If you are asking about the one we just heard the one who is replying, then offcourse they are not corrct


Point is that IS BEING A MUNAFIQUE OK. DO WE NEED FATWA FROM MAULANA or WE CAN JUDGE OUR SELVES.
EVERY ONE HAVE TO GO INTO HIS or HER GRAVE. IF ANY MULLAH OR AALIM IS SPREADING FALSE & HATE HE WILL FACE ALLAH WRATH or JAZA/SAZA..
So spread words of love & peace.. Dont create more hate & be part of this crime..


I know for some this is juicy topic to start a thread & post videos to start cursing MULLAH, ISLAM, MUSLIM etc etc..
Sorry if i have hurt any one.
Jaza-k-ALLAH
ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM WARAHMATULLAH

Bhai I agree with you that we should spread love and peace but at the same time I would say that we should expose these elements because are the people who are damaging the image of islam.

Jazak Allah e Khair
Wsalam
 

pak4rule

Senator (1k+ posts)
[MENTION=10205]Waseem[/MENTION]
when anything posted against a mulla, people like to EXPOSE such elements with full force and love to say whatever bad words they could use without giving it a thought that posting/pointing about such useless conversations like this only benefit those who are ready to create confusion in minds of our youth about islam and create hate for every maulana and stop them from learning Islam. Also by including all Ulema/ Alim and saying bad things for them , we also not doing justice and consider ourselves soooooooooo informative and rightly chosen to declare all bad, dont thinking of its after effects at all .

but on other hand when anyone trying to EXPOSE any military , army crook/criminal/ , so called wise people like you start advising to be careful not to expose or discuss as it may harm country/nation.

My God , religion is now so low priority in our lives ?

If you love to EXPOSE elements harming religion/country/ nation then please stop such hypocrisy.

Get some sense all of you please.
 

onlykami

MPA (400+ posts)
main fauj ki mulk dushmani aur specially islam dushmani ki policies k khilaf hon aur wo fauji us system ko defend kar raha hai isi lya main us k khilaf hon

Janab aap bayfiker rahain mai kisi ko ikhtlaf e raye ke wja se kisi ke sath imitiyzi salook nahi kerta.

Pehli baat tou yeah hay ke zaroori nahi ke dono ke pass aik jaisa ilm ho, ab ager aik mufti hay aur dosra aik aam fauji jawan tou dono ka koe muqabla banta nahi. noujwan ne apni se koshish ke, zati tou pe mai ussi ke baat ko theek samjhta houn.

Aap ko uss nujawan ke batoun pe ihtraz hay ya sirf uss ke fauji honay ke wja say aap uss ke khialf hain?
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Assalam-o-alaikum
Waseem bhai, thanks for your point of view. That this fauji bhai is busy asking questions from TTP MULLAH for so long & they didnot intercepted his location.
They should have made a CGI VIDEO of it, would be worth watching. Just two days another FAUJI MULLAH;s drunken speech was released in ASMA CH program. He was using ISLAM, KALIMA for 71 war.. WOW.. worth listening..
So why these faujis dont take action against these traitors within their ranks..
I am not supporting TTP, or those who throw fatwas of KAFIR , MURTID etc etc.. But why ISLAM, MUSLIM are attacked so violently.. WHATS THE PURPOSE??
Sorry for all this..
 

itsnotme90

Minister (2k+ posts)
its really sad musharraf took decision against taliban & brought usa here then taliban turn agaisnt anti pakistan plus CIA & RAW start using their agents to influence taliban againts pakistan & it all got dirty now. How will u justify killing in lal masjid & nobody from government ever apologize over those killings
 

w-a-n-t-e-d-

Minister (2k+ posts)
80karor $ ki imdad wasool karny k leyh 80+ jausoso ko visa isue karna kis leyh ???(bigsmile)

Afiya Ko Bech K Bhi Inko Apny Haq main fatwa chaeyh ?? Na-mumkin