China Warns the UK - "get ready to bear the consequences"
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Dream Seller
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Things are building up for a very nasty war...
Masud Javed
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The world has realized that China will be the super power
and they are all united to bring them down.
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
A Chinese super power is as good as Trump's America as super power. They are both terrible.
The most ideal superpowers would be something like Roosevelt's America or Gorbachev's Soviet Union. None of which exists and looking at how things are going on in this countries they probably wont exist for a long time.
It would be good to see countries Germany, Canada, New Zealand, Scandinavia and others to take on the leadership to save us from Anglo-American and Chinese imperialism.
World desperately needs new leadership to tackle terrorism, global warming and pandemics. The current world leadership is failed.
Russia, India, China are not civilized countries and we should not look to them beyond regional interests.
Chinese are good to us cause we gave them Shaksgam valley and they need Gwadar port, other than that they will not go out of their way to save us.
Even in 1971, China did not do anything to save us while Indonesia Navy sent their biggest ship to help lift the Indian naval blockade in Chittagong, even though we never gave any Shaksgam valley to Indonesia. During 1965 war Indonesia navy was planning to attack India and capture Andaman and Nicobar Islands but the war was over before they could help us.
We could form a military block with India if they have a reasonable leadership in future and resolve the Kashmir issue in a reasonable way.
The most ideal superpowers would be something like Roosevelt's America or Gorbachev's Soviet Union. None of which exists and looking at how things are going on in this countries they probably wont exist for a long time.
It would be good to see countries Germany, Canada, New Zealand, Scandinavia and others to take on the leadership to save us from Anglo-American and Chinese imperialism.
World desperately needs new leadership to tackle terrorism, global warming and pandemics. The current world leadership is failed.
Russia, India, China are not civilized countries and we should not look to them beyond regional interests.
Chinese are good to us cause we gave them Shaksgam valley and they need Gwadar port, other than that they will not go out of their way to save us.
Even in 1971, China did not do anything to save us while Indonesia Navy sent their biggest ship to help lift the Indian naval blockade in Chittagong, even though we never gave any Shaksgam valley to Indonesia. During 1965 war Indonesia navy was planning to attack India and capture Andaman and Nicobar Islands but the war was over before they could help us.
We could form a military block with India if they have a reasonable leadership in future and resolve the Kashmir issue in a reasonable way.
Masud Javed
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
exactly
just check the figure of how many people are killed in American wars is mind boggling
how many has china killed? so who is the bigger evil?
The thing is that America is controlling the western media, therefore they don't sound as evil
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Even Western Media is criticizing them especially the Iraq war. If you look at the intellectuals, philosophers and other learned people in the US, including historians, you will find little support for the Post Truman Era USA.
You are right that many lives have been lost due to the wars faught over the fossilized remains of dead dinosaurs, plants and animals. But I am suspicious of the Chinese for other reasons. They believe in neither God nor Reason. So I do not know what to expect from them when they have the power to do what the US has been doing for the last half century.
They are holding Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang by force and doing there what Modi is trying to do in Kashmir with ethnic cleansing. While also taking over the South China Sea.
Right now US navy is holding the peace but who knows what will happen when US Navy is gone as Trump wants it gone. Countries like Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Europe is relying on US for keeping peace. But US has been busy fighting useless wars and wasting resources for no good reason, marginalizing Muslim countries and also turning public opinion against them.
Atleast US President is answerable to congress (or supposed to be answerable) and they have a democracy where Muslims can also lobby for their interests. Chinese are not answerable to anyone, you might say they are answerable to their people. But that doesnt mean much considering all the media is controlled by the State, Xi Jinping has created an entire doctrine like a religion that his people have to study and implement for next 10 years. Everyone gets tired of who ever is in power and wants to change and try something new which is why some people want China to be super power instead of USA but these are things that we must also consider.
en.wikipedia.org
You are right that many lives have been lost due to the wars faught over the fossilized remains of dead dinosaurs, plants and animals. But I am suspicious of the Chinese for other reasons. They believe in neither God nor Reason. So I do not know what to expect from them when they have the power to do what the US has been doing for the last half century.
They are holding Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang by force and doing there what Modi is trying to do in Kashmir with ethnic cleansing. While also taking over the South China Sea.
Right now US navy is holding the peace but who knows what will happen when US Navy is gone as Trump wants it gone. Countries like Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Europe is relying on US for keeping peace. But US has been busy fighting useless wars and wasting resources for no good reason, marginalizing Muslim countries and also turning public opinion against them.
Atleast US President is answerable to congress (or supposed to be answerable) and they have a democracy where Muslims can also lobby for their interests. Chinese are not answerable to anyone, you might say they are answerable to their people. But that doesnt mean much considering all the media is controlled by the State, Xi Jinping has created an entire doctrine like a religion that his people have to study and implement for next 10 years. Everyone gets tired of who ever is in power and wants to change and try something new which is why some people want China to be super power instead of USA but these are things that we must also consider.
Xi Jinping Thought - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
shujauddin
Minister (2k+ posts)
UK cannot compete with China in economics and military domination.
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
Well USA since its formation has been fingering the world. China has shown no interest in acting like the worlds police man or of having any ambitions of an empire. It seems more concerned with trade and economics and believes that is the real power over everything else and since Pakistan is crucial to China, it won't do anything to harm us, and will protect its interests in Pakistan when push comes to shove so we can relax that China is every going to be harmful to us in anyway.Even Western Media is criticizing them especially the Iraq war. If you look at the intellectuals, philosophers and other learned people in the US, including historians, you will find little support for the Post Truman Era USA.
You are right that many lives have been lost due to the wars faught over the fossilized remains of dead dinosaurs, plants and animals. But I am suspicious of the Chinese for other reasons. They believe in neither God nor Reason. So I do not know what to expect from them when they have the power to do what the US has been doing for the last half century.
They are holding Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang by force and doing there what Modi is trying to do in Kashmir with ethnic cleansing. While also taking over the South China Sea.
Right now US navy is holding the peace but who knows what will happen when US Navy is gone as Trump wants it gone. Countries like Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Europe is relying on US for keeping peace. But US has been busy fighting useless wars and wasting resources for no good reason, marginalizing Muslim countries and also turning public opinion against them.
Atleast US President is answerable to congress (or supposed to be answerable) and they have a democracy where Muslims can also lobby for their interests. Chinese are not answerable to anyone, you might say they are answerable to their people. But that doesnt mean much considering all the media is controlled by the State, Xi Jinping has created an entire doctrine like a religion that his people have to study and implement for next 10 years. Everyone gets tired of who ever is in power and wants to change and try something new which is why some people want China to be super power instead of USA but these are things that we must also consider.
Xi Jinping Thought - Wikipedia
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Most world empire had been fingering other countries in one way or another and US is no exception.
Uncle Sam's policing was desperately needed during WW2 against Nazi Germany. But since Truman, US has lost the plot on foreign policy. Unfortunately many countries have become dependent on US for policing, if the US stops now, it will leave a security vacuum that could lead to chaos and destruction.
If you remove US from the equation, every country will be at each others throats. China will invade Taiwan, Russia will invade Ukraine and Georgia. UAE and Turkey will tear Libya apart. While Egypt Sudan and Ethiopia tear into each other over the Nile. Israel and Saudi are aching to bomb Iran's infrastructure and nuclear facilities. The tension is built up everywhere just like before WW1 and WW2.
We live in a global world and its important to see beyond our own nose, anything that happens elsewhere will affect us eventually. Many freedoms that we enjoy today are because of the influence of secular laws of Western countries. If it weren't for them slavery would still be legal in Arab countries. What influence is China going to bring to other countries?
We can see Donald Trump having no interest to stand up for Western Values or for Morals. But he will always defend dollar and economy. This type of zero sum thinking is destroying world peace and the world itself. How will China help stop this kind of mindset, they have no God and they have no Western Reason based Morals.
Uncle Sam's policing was desperately needed during WW2 against Nazi Germany. But since Truman, US has lost the plot on foreign policy. Unfortunately many countries have become dependent on US for policing, if the US stops now, it will leave a security vacuum that could lead to chaos and destruction.
If you remove US from the equation, every country will be at each others throats. China will invade Taiwan, Russia will invade Ukraine and Georgia. UAE and Turkey will tear Libya apart. While Egypt Sudan and Ethiopia tear into each other over the Nile. Israel and Saudi are aching to bomb Iran's infrastructure and nuclear facilities. The tension is built up everywhere just like before WW1 and WW2.
We live in a global world and its important to see beyond our own nose, anything that happens elsewhere will affect us eventually. Many freedoms that we enjoy today are because of the influence of secular laws of Western countries. If it weren't for them slavery would still be legal in Arab countries. What influence is China going to bring to other countries?
We can see Donald Trump having no interest to stand up for Western Values or for Morals. But he will always defend dollar and economy. This type of zero sum thinking is destroying world peace and the world itself. How will China help stop this kind of mindset, they have no God and they have no Western Reason based Morals.
Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Hahaha...Coming from your mouth, it sounds like a lie, even though it could be true.?
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
Just fingering is a light term, actively fucking would be more appropriate. How many bases outside its border does a country need? How many countries have toppled other governments through conspiracy to outright war for no good reason other that it didn't like them.
And I also disagree with with your theory that if USA goes out of the equation the world will fall into anarchy, as if the US is holding the world together. You give too much creedence to the US.
If today US and Iran disappear.80% of the world peace problems will solve themselves.
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
Flat Earther bhai even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
US is relatively a new country and the world is much peaceful now than any time in history. US had nothing to do with starting WW1 and WW2. Despite all the countries US has invaded, the world would be a more dangerous place without them.
Not saying I support those invasions but we would be forgetting the atrocities of the Ottomans in Armenia, the Belgians in Congo, Nazi Germany in eastern Europe, the Japanese in China and Great Britain all over the world.
Genocide, mass murder and rapes were common before this point. You are lucky that you are born in a world after US took over. If you were born before the 1950s there is a significant probability that you would have been affected by conflict in one way or another.
All the girls I dated from Europe have horrifying stories to tell about their grand-parents. And I am sure the stories of the Japanese are still very fresh in the minds of Chinese. The wars of US are a cake walk compared to this.
Lets not forget the role of Roosevelt in the decolonization of the world. Especially of India, it was one of the main conditions of US to enter the war on side of UK when they had no hope against Germany. US didn't ask for money or lands, they asked for all the colonies to be freed and that says something.
Not saying I support those invasions but we would be forgetting the atrocities of the Ottomans in Armenia, the Belgians in Congo, Nazi Germany in eastern Europe, the Japanese in China and Great Britain all over the world.
Genocide, mass murder and rapes were common before this point. You are lucky that you are born in a world after US took over. If you were born before the 1950s there is a significant probability that you would have been affected by conflict in one way or another.
All the girls I dated from Europe have horrifying stories to tell about their grand-parents. And I am sure the stories of the Japanese are still very fresh in the minds of Chinese. The wars of US are a cake walk compared to this.
Lets not forget the role of Roosevelt in the decolonization of the world. Especially of India, it was one of the main conditions of US to enter the war on side of UK when they had no hope against Germany. US didn't ask for money or lands, they asked for all the colonies to be freed and that says something.
Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
But why even keep a broken clock which is right only twice a day and keep you ignorant rest of the day?...Haha that could be one reason why you are ignorant of the fact that earth is flat. ?
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
Once again strongly disagree with this all, the world is a much more peaceful place right now? The US has nothing to do with it. And what you are talking about was the dark phase of European modern history, and once again its finishing had nothing to do with the US.
And majority of wars, coups, rebellions, regime changes after WWII have been directly or indirectly the result of US meddling, infact biggest source of war and unrest in the world right now is either the US or Iran.
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
I never said to keep a broken clock just that it right twice a day. A flat earther calling anyone ignorant is really ironic to say the least!
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
VC Bro knock some sense into this boy. Will ya. Sensible lad let his mind turn to mush watching bullshit flat earth Youtube videos! I gotta split now otherwise I would do it myself
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Vitamin_C
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
