Are Ahmadiyyas / Qadyanis considered Muslims?

Aliimran1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Without listening to this maulbi
Anyone who says
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and believe from his heart
He/ she is a Muslim
QADIANIS ARE NOT MUSLIMS ---- THEY SHOULD NOT CLAIMED SO
 

patwari_slayer

Senator (1k+ posts)
Ahmedia Musalman nhi hain according to Islam and principles laid by ALLAH and His messenger SAW

Baqi ap beghairton ki trah Imran Khan per tanqeed k liye Ahmedi ko Musalmaan kehny walay ki video bhi share krdo...

Usky baad Qadiyani khalifa ki video b share krdena Pakiatan k khilaaf

This is the way you chose for yourselves.
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Agla bnda khud maan gya hy k mje parwa nhi Pakistan ko dehshatgard bola jaye it is just a piece of land.
Yeh hindu nai hy to air kya hy? MAA FAROSH?
the maulvi in the video clearly says Ahmedis/Qadianis are apostates and out of the fold of Islam........
Ahmedia Musalman nhi hain according to Islam and principles laid by ALLAH and His messenger SAW

Baqi ap beghairton ki trah Imran Khan per tanqeed k liye Ahmedi ko Musalmaan kehny walay ki video bhi share krdo...

Usky baad Qadiyani khalifa ki video b share krdena Pakiatan k khilaaf

This is the way you chose for yourselves.
video dekho mian... video dekho!!!!
 

Ajnabi-log

Councller (250+ posts)
It doesnt matter if qadyanis or muslims or not. If you start this discussion then barelvi leaders consider deobandis kaffir and and deobandis consider barelvis kafir etc etc etc... Every religion and sect considers itself rightful and there is no end to it.
Tolerance towards others faith/sects is the only solution.
 

patwari_slayer

Senator (1k+ posts)
the maulvi in the video clearly says Ahmedis/Qadianis are apostates and out of the fold of Islam........

video dekho mian... video dekho!!!!
But the poster has posted a headline as if they are Muslims.
And he does not recognize Pakistan as motherland and has no issue if anyone calls it terrorist state
 

patwari_slayer

Senator (1k+ posts)
It doesnt matter if qadyanis or muslims or not. If you start this discussion then barelvi leaders consider deobandis kaffir and and deobandis consider barelvis kafir etc etc etc... Every religion and sect considers itself rightful and there is no end to it.
Tolerance towards others faith/sects is the only solution.
That still does not make qadiyanis a sect of Islam

Sect sect apni jaga. Jo Musalman nhi us munkir e Risalat ka kafir hona apni jaga
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
It doesnt matter if qadyanis or muslims or not. If you start this discussion then barelvi leaders consider deobandis kaffir and and deobandis consider barelvis kafir etc etc etc... Every religion and sect considers itself rightful and there is no end to it.
Tolerance towards others faith/sects is the only solution.
Exactly. Barelvis, Deobandis, Ahle Hadith / Salafi all call each other kafir, mushrik, biddati, and gustakhs all the time. and they are the "mainstream" Sunni sects!

The whole ganging up on Ahmedis/Qadiyanis is funny because its often always seen the most among people from central/northern Punjab, and the way tax-chor taajirs will have all kind of Khatme Nabuwwat stickers and "Qadiyani ka daakhla iss dukaan mein mana hai" posters on their shop entrances is such a uniquely phenomena in places like Lahore, GT Road Belt, Faisalabad etc.

most people in rest of Pakistan dont even care or know of who they are.
 

Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
Exactly. Barelvis, Deobandis, Ahle Hadith / Salafi all call each other kafir, mushrik, biddati, and gustakhs all the time. and they are the "mainstream" Sunni sects!

The whole ganging up on Ahmedis/Qadiyanis is funny because its often always seen the most among people from central/northern Punjab, and the way tax-chor taajirs will have all kind of Khatme Nabuwwat stickers and "Qadiyani ka daakhla iss dukaan mein mana hai" posters on their shop entrances is such a uniquely phenomena in places like Lahore, GT Road Belt, Faisalabad etc.

most people in rest of Pakistan dont even care or know of who they are.
My friend Barelvis, Deobandis, Ahle Hadith / Salafi etc name each other not as consensus of Ummah but rather individuals, and it's also localized. Qadiani on the other hand are non muslims with consensus of the Ummah. It's a fake brand.
https://www.siasat.pk/forums/thread...ebate-on-qadyanis-presidential-system.731344/
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
My friend Barelvis, Deobandis, Ahle Hadith / Salafi etc name each other not as consensus of Ummah but rather individuals, and it's also localized. Qadiani on the other hand are non muslims with consensus of the Ummah. It's a fake brand.
https://www.siasat.pk/forums/thread...ebate-on-qadyanis-presidential-system.731344/
oh those groups would LOVE to have the strength to declare the others as kafirs as a repeat of 1974. if they were really targeting them as "individuals" as you say, they wouldnt abstain from offering namaz behind each other.
 

Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
oh those groups would LOVE to have the strength to declare the others as kafirs as a repeat of 1974. if they were really targeting them as "individuals" as you say, they wouldnt abstain from offering namaz behind each other.
Now you are going way out of the line. Give me an example of any group, any social instrument, any institution, any country where you won't find people, if given power would not create a mess?
Qadianies are non muslims because they don't accept in the finality of the Prophet pbuh. It's a counterfeit, a fraud. You sound intelligent enough to understand it. Not a rocket science at all.
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Now you are going way out of the line. Give me an example of any group, any social instrument, any institution, any country where you won't find people, if given power would not create a mess?
Qadianies are non muslims because they don't accept in the finality of the Prophet pbuh. It's a counterfeit, a fraud. You sound intelligent enough to understand it. Not a rocket science at all.
well I didnt call them Muslims now did I? ?