Any Accountants, CPA's, CA's on Siasat.pk?

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Are there any accountants, CPA's, CA's over here? Especially for Canada or the US? Looking for some career related advice
 
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UFC2015

Citizen
A brief background, i completed my Bachelors and MBA from IBA in Pakistan in 2010. I then immigrated to Canada in 2012 after having worked in a bank in Pakistan for 2 years.

When i decided to pursue the accounting field and main accounting designation in Canada i.e. CPA way back in 2012, i did it primarily because of family pressure as everyone has this idea that is the golden ticket to riches. I also went through the main accounting bodies brochures in Canada back then where they constantly presented statistics i.e. the average salaries CPA's make upon designation, in 5 years and in 10 years i.e. $120,000-140,000 plus and how the designation open's doors for you. Ideally speaking one should do what they love to do and have a passion for but that was not the case with me, i followed the herd and of course my parents themselves being highly successful doctors kept impressing on me on the need to constantly upgrade your skills and qualifications in today's very competitive world where just a simple Bachelors or Masters was not enough and given that all my aunts, uncles were PHD graduates from the top notch universities, there was that pressure to keep up. The other problem was that i was always a very shy, introverted individual and my social skills were far from ideal and it was always drilled in me that i would be a complete misfit for a sales, marketing role and that i was far better off doing something like numbers crunching, something that was prescribed and involved basic compliance and therefore accounting was a better fit for me and my personality. Bottomline is i didn't put a lot of thought into what impact my decision to pursue this field would have in the long run for me back then and had i known the true realities of what life in an accounting was like back then and had i known what i would go through, i may have made a different decision in hindsight.

I have worked in accounting in an accounting firm environment for 4 years now and i am approaching my 5th busy season as the tax filing deadline in Canada is April 30th. Since 2015, i have worked in 5 small sole practictioner accounting practices where i quit one firm and got fired from 4 others. I had absolutely zero idea about the pressure cooker working environment realities of accounting firms. It was way too fast paced for my liking, no concept of training and mentorship, you were basically thrown into things from day one, files were slammed on your desk from day one and then it was basically sink or swim. Having a really bad senior or manager or partner to report too makes the problem ten times worse and can really break and shatter your confidence.

The present accounting firm i am working for is a mid sized accounting firm and it is the largest and the best accounting firm i have worked in so far in my career for now where even though the work can be stressful at times, the working environment i have to say has been the best so far.

Unlike a few people i was fortunate enough to break into various different accounting firms but the bulk of my experience has strictly been related to Personal Tax Returns, Corporate Tax Returns, Notice to Reader Engagements, Financial Statement Preperation and Year Ends, Book Keeping tasks, Doing supporting work related to Tax Reviews, Audits for Personal and Corporate Tax Clients. The vast majority of customers i have dealt with all individuals and small business corporate clients. The biggest frustration is dealing with messy, unorganized small business clients and figuring out the errors they have made and then trying to correct them and fix their books. The other frustrating thing is that most firms don't charge them as much as they should for clients with messy documents, files and the end result is that the pressure falls on me to try to do the work accurately, fast, efficiently in record time when at times its not humanly possible and unnecessarily increases the stress level on me.

I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndromme a few years ago and the reality of this problem catches up on me at times, it is very hard for me to work in a highly fast paced environment, it is a big struggle for me at times to note down super fast, highly technical instructions word for word with 100% accuracy and sometimes that can result in mistakes. I have found a way around it which works for me but there are times like right now in busy season where there is such a high volume of work and where everyone is on edge and under stress that it is not humanly possible to not miss something, or to not misunderstand an instruction and boy when that happens, you get roasted even if you have done a great job on 100-200 files and tasks before.

This is my biggest frustration with working for an accounting firm, you can do a great job on 100-200 files before, but one mistake and it gets highlighted and you are put on edge that you are going to be kicked out any second should the person you are reporting too lose it. The other biggest stress and frustration is that you are constantly working on so many files day in, day out and out of the blue your manager, partner calls you and starts querying you on a file you worked on 5-6 months ago and starts asking questions and you have to urgently refresh your memory in terms of what you were thinking off at the time when you worked on that file. The other frustration i have is that you have managers who themselves are extremely unorganized, who don't put in the time, effort to streamline things in advance so that we are prepared to handle things when the volume comes in during busy season and the end result is they end up taking their stresses and frustrations out on you. For e.g. just today my boss out of no where mentioned he gave a few files with respect to a couple of clients a month ago and i know full well he didn't and i would have remembered it or known about it if he did, he unnecessarily put me under pressure for one whole hour blaming me for misplacing the files apparently whereas i knew for a fact that he never gave me the files he was talking about, after coming to my desk and searching for it myself, he had no choice but to accept that perhaps he was mistaken and that he never gave me the files in the first place. But this is just an example of the stupid stressful things i have to underservedly deal with it and put up with and it really gets to me now.

By nature i am a very calm, easy going guy. I don't like confrontration and i am the first person to make peace and pacify a situation and with that i know full well that in the professional workplace you cannot disrespect hierarchy and given that i have been fired before in the past i.e. 4-5 times in Canada, some in very very brutal circumstances, i know full well if you **** off, offend, upset your seniors, boss, they can become very vindictive and personal and regardless of whether you are decently competent at your job, in a desire for vengeance they can kick you out any second and half you replaced in a jiffy given the massive number of fresh accounting graduates in the market available. This is why i have developed the attitude and ability to control my stresses, emotions, frustrations at the work places with my seniors and bosses and do whatever it takes to suck it up.

However, the other reasons why i am this way is sympathetic and emphatetic as well. I have seen seniors, managers and senior managers in the firms work under severe stress for partners and a lot of them don't have any lives outside work, they have a lot of responsibilities and i have seen spend insane amounts of time working away late at night even outside busy season. Intitially i was thinking as i was going through my accounting journey that i will get as much experience in an accounting firm, get my designation and then one day look to open my own practice but now i am not so sure.

I have been questioning myself for a long time whether this is what i really want for myself down the line in the future, the answer is No, Hell No certainly not for an accounting firm. One can make $80,000-100,000-120,000 a year but it is not worth it if you are working late hours almost everyday and working from home even and are always on edge.

My family circumstances have changed now as well, i will definately be getting married next year and i have one parent who is extremely unwell and i need to be around for her and cannot be stuck in the office working away till late hours and even working on Saturdays for a measly annual salary less than $40,000. Initially my plan was to stick to an accounting firm for at most another 4-5 years, to try and get some experience related to Audit and Review Engagements, try to get exposure on how to deal, negotiate and talk to clients and then explore the possibility of opening my accounting practice from home. I felt this route would be a better idea for me given that at the age of 34-35, the Big 4 route was not worth it and the hours are not going to be any better over there either and the amount of work you will be forced to do will be way more than your compensation.

But now i am having second thoughts as to whether will it be as easy or lucrative as one thinks, will it be any less stressful as working for another accounting firm. The other option i was considering is after obtaining the CPA designation, was to obtain the US CPA designation and if my family circumstances are such that if i need to move back to my home country i.e. Pakistan, then i would look into getting into the education industry where i can consider teaching accounting and related subjects to students in different high schools, universities and maybe even offer private tuitions to ACCA students. I thought that perhaps acquiring the Canadian CPA, US CPA and maybe ACCA qualification combined with my MBA from IBA and working in different accounting firms in Canada for a number of years might help give me some credibility. I believe this route would give me a better chance of helping me to maximize my potential and earning capacity rather than aimlessly working 10-12 hours a day for an accounting firm being paid a very measly salary and dealing with too much fast paced stress, time pressures and deadlines which i will not be able to cope with in the long run. Besides at the age of 35 now, i don't think trying to aim for a career in the big 4 is wise because working in the big 4 will mean working away very very long hours on a frequent basis.

So bottom line, i now need to make smart and best decisions for myself given my circumstances. If i am going to be staying and living in Canada, US for the rest of my life, then maybe i can think about working for another 3-5 years in an accounting firm and try to get more experience and then gradually take steps to try to establish my own accounting practice at home and see how it goes. The other option is to try and get into the govt i.e. CRA or Auditor General's office, enjoy a very good work life balance and then use the extra time to get into teaching like i know some people do and this way they manage to augment their incomes.

In the scenario if i am required to move back to Pakistan, then i think working for a company in Pakistan will be a backward step and the better idea would be to try and get into the education industry.

Thought i would atleast get some feedback, tips and advice from experienced accountants here.

I am really looking forward to suggestions and feedback from accountants because the accounting firm life is now really getting to me, it feels like torture having to deal with the stress now and i am desperate to find a way out for myself and not go on aimlessly forever.
 

bhaibarood

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
A brief background, i completed my Bachelors and MBA from IBA in Pakistan in 2010. I then immigrated to Canada in 2012 after having worked in a bank in Pakistan for 2 years.

When i decided to pursue the accounting field and main accounting designation in Canada i.e. CPA way back in 2012, i did it primarily because of family pressure as everyone has this idea that is the golden ticket to riches. I also went through the main accounting bodies brochures in Canada back then where they constantly presented statistics i.e. the average salaries CPA's make upon designation, in 5 years and in 10 years i.e. $120,000-140,000 plus and how the designation open's doors for you. Ideally speaking one should do what they love to do and have a passion for but that was not the case with me, i followed the herd and of course my parents themselves being highly successful doctors kept impressing on me on the need to constantly upgrade your skills and qualifications in today's very competitive world where just a simple Bachelors or Masters was not enough and given that all my aunts, uncles were PHD graduates from the top notch universities, there was that pressure to keep up. The other problem was that i was always a very shy, introverted individual and my social skills were far from ideal and it was always drilled in me that i would be a complete misfit for a sales, marketing role and that i was far better off doing something like numbers crunching, something that was prescribed and involved basic compliance and therefore accounting was a better fit for me and my personality. Bottomline is i didn't put a lot of thought into what impact my decision to pursue this field would have in the long run for me back then and had i known the true realities of what life in an accounting was like back then and had i known what i would go through, i may have made a different decision in hindsight.

I have worked in accounting in an accounting firm environment for 4 years now and i am approaching my 5th busy season as the tax filing deadline in Canada is April 30th. Since 2015, i have worked in 5 small sole practictioner accounting practices where i quit one firm and got fired from 4 others. I had absolutely zero idea about the pressure cooker working environment realities of accounting firms. It was way too fast paced for my liking, no concept of training and mentorship, you were basically thrown into things from day one, files were slammed on your desk from day one and then it was basically sink or swim. Having a really bad senior or manager or partner to report too makes the problem ten times worse and can really break and shatter your confidence.

The present accounting firm i am working for is a mid sized accounting firm and it is the largest and the best accounting firm i have worked in so far in my career for now where even though the work can be stressful at times, the working environment i have to say has been the best so far.

Unlike a few people i was fortunate enough to break into various different accounting firms but the bulk of my experience has strictly been related to Personal Tax Returns, Corporate Tax Returns, Notice to Reader Engagements, Financial Statement Preperation and Year Ends, Book Keeping tasks, Doing supporting work related to Tax Reviews, Audits for Personal and Corporate Tax Clients. The vast majority of customers i have dealt with all individuals and small business corporate clients. The biggest frustration is dealing with messy, unorganized small business clients and figuring out the errors they have made and then trying to correct them and fix their books. The other frustrating thing is that most firms don't charge them as much as they should for clients with messy documents, files and the end result is that the pressure falls on me to try to do the work accurately, fast, efficiently in record time when at times its not humanly possible and unnecessarily increases the stress level on me.

I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndromme a few years ago and the reality of this problem catches up on me at times, it is very hard for me to work in a highly fast paced environment, it is a big struggle for me at times to note down super fast, highly technical instructions word for word with 100% accuracy and sometimes that can result in mistakes. I have found a way around it which works for me but there are times like right now in busy season where there is such a high volume of work and where everyone is on edge and under stress that it is not humanly possible to not miss something, or to not misunderstand an instruction and boy when that happens, you get roasted even if you have done a great job on 100-200 files and tasks before.

This is my biggest frustration with working for an accounting firm, you can do a great job on 100-200 files before, but one mistake and it gets highlighted and you are put on edge that you are going to be kicked out any second should the person you are reporting too lose it. The other biggest stress and frustration is that you are constantly working on so many files day in, day out and out of the blue your manager, partner calls you and starts querying you on a file you worked on 5-6 months ago and starts asking questions and you have to urgently refresh your memory in terms of what you were thinking off at the time when you worked on that file. The other frustration i have is that you have managers who themselves are extremely unorganized, who don't put in the time, effort to streamline things in advance so that we are prepared to handle things when the volume comes in during busy season and the end result is they end up taking their stresses and frustrations out on you. For e.g. just today my boss out of no where mentioned he gave a few files with respect to a couple of clients a month ago and i know full well he didn't and i would have remembered it or known about it if he did, he unnecessarily put me under pressure for one whole hour blaming me for misplacing the files apparently whereas i knew for a fact that he never gave me the files he was talking about, after coming to my desk and searching for it myself, he had no choice but to accept that perhaps he was mistaken and that he never gave me the files in the first place. But this is just an example of the stupid stressful things i have to underservedly deal with it and put up with and it really gets to me now.

By nature i am a very calm, easy going guy. I don't like confrontration and i am the first person to make peace and pacify a situation and with that i know full well that in the professional workplace you cannot disrespect hierarchy and given that i have been fired before in the past i.e. 4-5 times in Canada, some in very very brutal circumstances, i know full well if you **** off, offend, upset your seniors, boss, they can become very vindictive and personal and regardless of whether you are decently competent at your job, in a desire for vengeance they can kick you out any second and half you replaced in a jiffy given the massive number of fresh accounting graduates in the market available. This is why i have developed the attitude and ability to control my stresses, emotions, frustrations at the work places with my seniors and bosses and do whatever it takes to suck it up.

However, the other reasons why i am this way is sympathetic and emphatetic as well. I have seen seniors, managers and senior managers in the firms work under severe stress for partners and a lot of them don't have any lives outside work, they have a lot of responsibilities and i have seen spend insane amounts of time working away late at night even outside busy season. Intitially i was thinking as i was going through my accounting journey that i will get as much experience in an accounting firm, get my designation and then one day look to open my own practice but now i am not so sure.

I have been questioning myself for a long time whether this is what i really want for myself down the line in the future, the answer is No, Hell No certainly not for an accounting firm. One can make $80,000-100,000-120,000 a year but it is not worth it if you are working late hours almost everyday and working from home even and are always on edge.

My family circumstances have changed now as well, i will definately be getting married next year and i have one parent who is extremely unwell and i need to be around for her and cannot be stuck in the office working away till late hours and even working on Saturdays for a measly annual salary less than $40,000. Initially my plan was to stick to an accounting firm for at most another 4-5 years, to try and get some experience related to Audit and Review Engagements, try to get exposure on how to deal, negotiate and talk to clients and then explore the possibility of opening my accounting practice from home. I felt this route would be a better idea for me given that at the age of 34-35, the Big 4 route was not worth it and the hours are not going to be any better over there either and the amount of work you will be forced to do will be way more than your compensation.

But now i am having second thoughts as to whether will it be as easy or lucrative as one thinks, will it be any less stressful as working for another accounting firm. The other option i was considering is after obtaining the CPA designation, was to obtain the US CPA designation and if my family circumstances are such that if i need to move back to my home country i.e. Pakistan, then i would look into getting into the education industry where i can consider teaching accounting and related subjects to students in different high schools, universities and maybe even offer private tuitions to ACCA students. I thought that perhaps acquiring the Canadian CPA, US CPA and maybe ACCA qualification combined with my MBA from IBA and working in different accounting firms in Canada for a number of years might help give me some credibility. I believe this route would give me a better chance of helping me to maximize my potential and earning capacity rather than aimlessly working 10-12 hours a day for an accounting firm being paid a very measly salary and dealing with too much fast paced stress, time pressures and deadlines which i will not be able to cope with in the long run. Besides at the age of 35 now, i don't think trying to aim for a career in the big 4 is wise because working in the big 4 will mean working away very very long hours on a frequent basis.

So bottom line, i now need to make smart and best decisions for myself given my circumstances. If i am going to be staying and living in Canada, US for the rest of my life, then maybe i can think about working for another 3-5 years in an accounting firm and try to get more experience and then gradually take steps to try to establish my own accounting practice at home and see how it goes. The other option is to try and get into the govt i.e. CRA or Auditor General's office, enjoy a very good work life balance and then use the extra time to get into teaching like i know some people do and this way they manage to augment their incomes.

In the scenario if i am required to move back to Pakistan, then i think working for a company in Pakistan will be a backward step and the better idea would be to try and get into the education industry.

Thought i would atleast get some feedback, tips and advice from experienced accountants here.

I am really looking forward to suggestions and feedback from accountants because the accounting firm life is now really getting to me, it feels like torture having to deal with the stress now and i am desperate to find a way out for myself and not go on aimlessly forever.
Full disclosure I am not an accountant but I know few of them, relatives!
Public accounting is fast pace ,high pressure environment thats like ER in my field.
People go crazy and even suicidal due to hostile work environment. I can understand your Asperger syndrome too, you are in a wrong field per se, though their is a whole spectrum of Asperger's syndrome but if you reached upto here you are good to go!
Its western world , use your medical condition as shield. No one can we think about getting you pressurized after that disclosure , its a huge lawsuit !
Getting fired from 4 jobs is a big red flag dude, do you know for CPA how many modules you have to go through? its like Medical licencing, super tough and highly competitive.
Take course if you are choosing to persue it ,Beckers or Princeton I guess both offer CPA books. Wish you good luck mate, dont let others dictate you what you should do ,everyone is different and I can understand that your family background asks for top of the top tier salaries. At the end of the day, money dont keep you happy but a content job would.
Dont even think about home based business, just dont it wont work!
No IRA .no 401k,no insurance ,no perks.
 
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HIDDEN

Senator (1k+ posts)
A brief background, i completed my Bachelors and MBA from IBA in Pakistan in 2010. I then immigrated to Canada in 2012 after having worked in a bank in Pakistan for 2 years.

When i decided to pursue the accounting field and main accounting designation in Canada i.e. CPA way back in 2012, i did it primarily because of family pressure as everyone has this idea that is the golden ticket to riches. I also went through the main accounting bodies brochures in Canada back then where they constantly presented statistics i.e. the average salaries CPA's make upon designation, in 5 years and in 10 years i.e. $120,000-140,000 plus and how the designation open's doors for you. Ideally speaking one should do what they love to do and have a passion for but that was not the case with me, i followed the herd and of course my parents themselves being highly successful doctors kept impressing on me on the need to constantly upgrade your skills and qualifications in today's very competitive world where just a simple Bachelors or Masters was not enough and given that all my aunts, uncles were PHD graduates from the top notch universities, there was that pressure to keep up. The other problem was that i was always a very shy, introverted individual and my social skills were far from ideal and it was always drilled in me that i would be a complete misfit for a sales, marketing role and that i was far better off doing something like numbers crunching, something that was prescribed and involved basic compliance and therefore accounting was a better fit for me and my personality. Bottomline is i didn't put a lot of thought into what impact my decision to pursue this field would have in the long run for me back then and had i known the true realities of what life in an accounting was like back then and had i known what i would go through, i may have made a different decision in hindsight.

I have worked in accounting in an accounting firm environment for 4 years now and i am approaching my 5th busy season as the tax filing deadline in Canada is April 30th. Since 2015, i have worked in 5 small sole practictioner accounting practices where i quit one firm and got fired from 4 others. I had absolutely zero idea about the pressure cooker working environment realities of accounting firms. It was way too fast paced for my liking, no concept of training and mentorship, you were basically thrown into things from day one, files were slammed on your desk from day one and then it was basically sink or swim. Having a really bad senior or manager or partner to report too makes the problem ten times worse and can really break and shatter your confidence.

The present accounting firm i am working for is a mid sized accounting firm and it is the largest and the best accounting firm i have worked in so far in my career for now where even though the work can be stressful at times, the working environment i have to say has been the best so far.

Unlike a few people i was fortunate enough to break into various different accounting firms but the bulk of my experience has strictly been related to Personal Tax Returns, Corporate Tax Returns, Notice to Reader Engagements, Financial Statement Preperation and Year Ends, Book Keeping tasks, Doing supporting work related to Tax Reviews, Audits for Personal and Corporate Tax Clients. The vast majority of customers i have dealt with all individuals and small business corporate clients. The biggest frustration is dealing with messy, unorganized small business clients and figuring out the errors they have made and then trying to correct them and fix their books. The other frustrating thing is that most firms don't charge them as much as they should for clients with messy documents, files and the end result is that the pressure falls on me to try to do the work accurately, fast, efficiently in record time when at times its not humanly possible and unnecessarily increases the stress level on me.

I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndromme a few years ago and the reality of this problem catches up on me at times, it is very hard for me to work in a highly fast paced environment, it is a big struggle for me at times to note down super fast, highly technical instructions word for word with 100% accuracy and sometimes that can result in mistakes. I have found a way around it which works for me but there are times like right now in busy season where there is such a high volume of work and where everyone is on edge and under stress that it is not humanly possible to not miss something, or to not misunderstand an instruction and boy when that happens, you get roasted even if you have done a great job on 100-200 files and tasks before.

This is my biggest frustration with working for an accounting firm, you can do a great job on 100-200 files before, but one mistake and it gets highlighted and you are put on edge that you are going to be kicked out any second should the person you are reporting too lose it. The other biggest stress and frustration is that you are constantly working on so many files day in, day out and out of the blue your manager, partner calls you and starts querying you on a file you worked on 5-6 months ago and starts asking questions and you have to urgently refresh your memory in terms of what you were thinking off at the time when you worked on that file. The other frustration i have is that you have managers who themselves are extremely unorganized, who don't put in the time, effort to streamline things in advance so that we are prepared to handle things when the volume comes in during busy season and the end result is they end up taking their stresses and frustrations out on you. For e.g. just today my boss out of no where mentioned he gave a few files with respect to a couple of clients a month ago and i know full well he didn't and i would have remembered it or known about it if he did, he unnecessarily put me under pressure for one whole hour blaming me for misplacing the files apparently whereas i knew for a fact that he never gave me the files he was talking about, after coming to my desk and searching for it myself, he had no choice but to accept that perhaps he was mistaken and that he never gave me the files in the first place. But this is just an example of the stupid stressful things i have to underservedly deal with it and put up with and it really gets to me now.

By nature i am a very calm, easy going guy. I don't like confrontration and i am the first person to make peace and pacify a situation and with that i know full well that in the professional workplace you cannot disrespect hierarchy and given that i have been fired before in the past i.e. 4-5 times in Canada, some in very very brutal circumstances, i know full well if you **** off, offend, upset your seniors, boss, they can become very vindictive and personal and regardless of whether you are decently competent at your job, in a desire for vengeance they can kick you out any second and half you replaced in a jiffy given the massive number of fresh accounting graduates in the market available. This is why i have developed the attitude and ability to control my stresses, emotions, frustrations at the work places with my seniors and bosses and do whatever it takes to suck it up.

However, the other reasons why i am this way is sympathetic and emphatetic as well. I have seen seniors, managers and senior managers in the firms work under severe stress for partners and a lot of them don't have any lives outside work, they have a lot of responsibilities and i have seen spend insane amounts of time working away late at night even outside busy season. Intitially i was thinking as i was going through my accounting journey that i will get as much experience in an accounting firm, get my designation and then one day look to open my own practice but now i am not so sure.

I have been questioning myself for a long time whether this is what i really want for myself down the line in the future, the answer is No, Hell No certainly not for an accounting firm. One can make $80,000-100,000-120,000 a year but it is not worth it if you are working late hours almost everyday and working from home even and are always on edge.

My family circumstances have changed now as well, i will definately be getting married next year and i have one parent who is extremely unwell and i need to be around for her and cannot be stuck in the office working away till late hours and even working on Saturdays for a measly annual salary less than $40,000. Initially my plan was to stick to an accounting firm for at most another 4-5 years, to try and get some experience related to Audit and Review Engagements, try to get exposure on how to deal, negotiate and talk to clients and then explore the possibility of opening my accounting practice from home. I felt this route would be a better idea for me given that at the age of 34-35, the Big 4 route was not worth it and the hours are not going to be any better over there either and the amount of work you will be forced to do will be way more than your compensation.

But now i am having second thoughts as to whether will it be as easy or lucrative as one thinks, will it be any less stressful as working for another accounting firm. The other option i was considering is after obtaining the CPA designation, was to obtain the US CPA designation and if my family circumstances are such that if i need to move back to my home country i.e. Pakistan, then i would look into getting into the education industry where i can consider teaching accounting and related subjects to students in different high schools, universities and maybe even offer private tuitions to ACCA students. I thought that perhaps acquiring the Canadian CPA, US CPA and maybe ACCA qualification combined with my MBA from IBA and working in different accounting firms in Canada for a number of years might help give me some credibility. I believe this route would give me a better chance of helping me to maximize my potential and earning capacity rather than aimlessly working 10-12 hours a day for an accounting firm being paid a very measly salary and dealing with too much fast paced stress, time pressures and deadlines which i will not be able to cope with in the long run. Besides at the age of 35 now, i don't think trying to aim for a career in the big 4 is wise because working in the big 4 will mean working away very very long hours on a frequent basis.

So bottom line, i now need to make smart and best decisions for myself given my circumstances. If i am going to be staying and living in Canada, US for the rest of my life, then maybe i can think about working for another 3-5 years in an accounting firm and try to get more experience and then gradually take steps to try to establish my own accounting practice at home and see how it goes. The other option is to try and get into the govt i.e. CRA or Auditor General's office, enjoy a very good work life balance and then use the extra time to get into teaching like i know some people do and this way they manage to augment their incomes.

In the scenario if i am required to move back to Pakistan, then i think working for a company in Pakistan will be a backward step and the better idea would be to try and get into the education industry.

Thought i would atleast get some feedback, tips and advice from experienced accountants here.

I am really looking forward to suggestions and feedback from accountants because the accounting firm life is now really getting to me, it feels like torture having to deal with the stress now and i am desperate to find a way out for myself and not go on aimlessly forever.

I am a professional accountant and a member of three international accounting bodies.

What you have written is absolutely correct that accounting and finance is an extremely hectic job at times.. external auditing is also extremely stressful, specially around the financial year end.

I have a relative who was in your situation way back in early 2000s.. he couldn't cope up with the work pace and decided to stop working for the accounting firms. He joined an institute in Dubai teaching ACCA and CIMA and started earning some money in Dubai.. when he progressed a little and made his reputation in the market, he opened his own institute (within three years of working with that institute). Initially, he used to teach some subjects, and for others, he would issue a 3 month work visa to other Pakistani friends, who would come and teach some of the subjects and share the income... His institute started earning so much in the next two to three years that he had to hire permanent staff.. and then he got married as well.. then he decided to sell off his institute and buy a franchise in the United Kingdom (I think it was a SubWay outlet in a small city.. He got his permanent residency in the United Kingdom (at that time it was called HSMP program).

He now owns two branches of the food chain.. (i don't remember it's subway or some other fast food chain), and earning a handsome amount.. He owns two luxury cars (one for him, one for his wife)... Spends most of the time at home.. but visits branches everyday and perform day end procedures.. Being an accountant benefits him because he has employed some preventive/ detective internal controls (and I am sure you know what I am talking about).. which are hard to fail.. Life has become easy for him..

You can also try a similar luck if you want.. Since you are a MBA, you might have a basic understanding of Business Management, which most of us accountants lack.. we only know numbers.. not the other aspects of business.. For example, if I open a business one day, I will spend my day thinking how can I reduce the costs rather than how can I increase my revenue.. and will end up spending less on Marketing and Business Development.. in the end, I will fail..

You are in a much better position.. and you can progress a lot if you play right..
 

Fawad Javed

MPA (400+ posts)
A brief background, i completed my Bachelors and MBA from IBA in Pakistan in 2010. I then immigrated to Canada in 2012 after having worked in a bank in Pakistan for 2 years.

When i decided to pursue the accounting field and main accounting designation in Canada i.e. CPA way back in 2012, i did it primarily because of family pressure as everyone has this idea that is the golden ticket to riches. I also went through the main accounting bodies brochures in Canada back then where they constantly presented statistics i.e. the average salaries CPA's make upon designation, in 5 years and in 10 years i.e. $120,000-140,000 plus and how the designation open's doors for you. Ideally speaking one should do what they love to do and have a passion for but that was not the case with me, i followed the herd and of course my parents themselves being highly successful doctors kept impressing on me on the need to constantly upgrade your skills and qualifications in today's very competitive world where just a simple Bachelors or Masters was not enough and given that all my aunts, uncles were PHD graduates from the top notch universities, there was that pressure to keep up. The other problem was that i was always a very shy, introverted individual and my social skills were far from ideal and it was always drilled in me that i would be a complete misfit for a sales, marketing role and that i was far better off doing something like numbers crunching, something that was prescribed and involved basic compliance and therefore accounting was a better fit for me and my personality. Bottomline is i didn't put a lot of thought into what impact my decision to pursue this field would have in the long run for me back then and had i known the true realities of what life in an accounting was like back then and had i known what i would go through, i may have made a different decision in hindsight.

I have worked in accounting in an accounting firm environment for 4 years now and i am approaching my 5th busy season as the tax filing deadline in Canada is April 30th. Since 2015, i have worked in 5 small sole practictioner accounting practices where i quit one firm and got fired from 4 others. I had absolutely zero idea about the pressure cooker working environment realities of accounting firms. It was way too fast paced for my liking, no concept of training and mentorship, you were basically thrown into things from day one, files were slammed on your desk from day one and then it was basically sink or swim. Having a really bad senior or manager or partner to report too makes the problem ten times worse and can really break and shatter your confidence.

The present accounting firm i am working for is a mid sized accounting firm and it is the largest and the best accounting firm i have worked in so far in my career for now where even though the work can be stressful at times, the working environment i have to say has been the best so far.

Unlike a few people i was fortunate enough to break into various different accounting firms but the bulk of my experience has strictly been related to Personal Tax Returns, Corporate Tax Returns, Notice to Reader Engagements, Financial Statement Preperation and Year Ends, Book Keeping tasks, Doing supporting work related to Tax Reviews, Audits for Personal and Corporate Tax Clients. The vast majority of customers i have dealt with all individuals and small business corporate clients. The biggest frustration is dealing with messy, unorganized small business clients and figuring out the errors they have made and then trying to correct them and fix their books. The other frustrating thing is that most firms don't charge them as much as they should for clients with messy documents, files and the end result is that the pressure falls on me to try to do the work accurately, fast, efficiently in record time when at times its not humanly possible and unnecessarily increases the stress level on me.

I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndromme a few years ago and the reality of this problem catches up on me at times, it is very hard for me to work in a highly fast paced environment, it is a big struggle for me at times to note down super fast, highly technical instructions word for word with 100% accuracy and sometimes that can result in mistakes. I have found a way around it which works for me but there are times like right now in busy season where there is such a high volume of work and where everyone is on edge and under stress that it is not humanly possible to not miss something, or to not misunderstand an instruction and boy when that happens, you get roasted even if you have done a great job on 100-200 files and tasks before.

This is my biggest frustration with working for an accounting firm, you can do a great job on 100-200 files before, but one mistake and it gets highlighted and you are put on edge that you are going to be kicked out any second should the person you are reporting too lose it. The other biggest stress and frustration is that you are constantly working on so many files day in, day out and out of the blue your manager, partner calls you and starts querying you on a file you worked on 5-6 months ago and starts asking questions and you have to urgently refresh your memory in terms of what you were thinking off at the time when you worked on that file. The other frustration i have is that you have managers who themselves are extremely unorganized, who don't put in the time, effort to streamline things in advance so that we are prepared to handle things when the volume comes in during busy season and the end result is they end up taking their stresses and frustrations out on you. For e.g. just today my boss out of no where mentioned he gave a few files with respect to a couple of clients a month ago and i know full well he didn't and i would have remembered it or known about it if he did, he unnecessarily put me under pressure for one whole hour blaming me for misplacing the files apparently whereas i knew for a fact that he never gave me the files he was talking about, after coming to my desk and searching for it myself, he had no choice but to accept that perhaps he was mistaken and that he never gave me the files in the first place. But this is just an example of the stupid stressful things i have to underservedly deal with it and put up with and it really gets to me now.

By nature i am a very calm, easy going guy. I don't like confrontration and i am the first person to make peace and pacify a situation and with that i know full well that in the professional workplace you cannot disrespect hierarchy and given that i have been fired before in the past i.e. 4-5 times in Canada, some in very very brutal circumstances, i know full well if you **** off, offend, upset your seniors, boss, they can become very vindictive and personal and regardless of whether you are decently competent at your job, in a desire for vengeance they can kick you out any second and half you replaced in a jiffy given the massive number of fresh accounting graduates in the market available. This is why i have developed the attitude and ability to control my stresses, emotions, frustrations at the work places with my seniors and bosses and do whatever it takes to suck it up.

However, the other reasons why i am this way is sympathetic and emphatetic as well. I have seen seniors, managers and senior managers in the firms work under severe stress for partners and a lot of them don't have any lives outside work, they have a lot of responsibilities and i have seen spend insane amounts of time working away late at night even outside busy season. Intitially i was thinking as i was going through my accounting journey that i will get as much experience in an accounting firm, get my designation and then one day look to open my own practice but now i am not so sure.

I have been questioning myself for a long time whether this is what i really want for myself down the line in the future, the answer is No, Hell No certainly not for an accounting firm. One can make $80,000-100,000-120,000 a year but it is not worth it if you are working late hours almost everyday and working from home even and are always on edge.

My family circumstances have changed now as well, i will definately be getting married next year and i have one parent who is extremely unwell and i need to be around for her and cannot be stuck in the office working away till late hours and even working on Saturdays for a measly annual salary less than $40,000. Initially my plan was to stick to an accounting firm for at most another 4-5 years, to try and get some experience related to Audit and Review Engagements, try to get exposure on how to deal, negotiate and talk to clients and then explore the possibility of opening my accounting practice from home. I felt this route would be a better idea for me given that at the age of 34-35, the Big 4 route was not worth it and the hours are not going to be any better over there either and the amount of work you will be forced to do will be way more than your compensation.

But now i am having second thoughts as to whether will it be as easy or lucrative as one thinks, will it be any less stressful as working for another accounting firm. The other option i was considering is after obtaining the CPA designation, was to obtain the US CPA designation and if my family circumstances are such that if i need to move back to my home country i.e. Pakistan, then i would look into getting into the education industry where i can consider teaching accounting and related subjects to students in different high schools, universities and maybe even offer private tuitions to ACCA students. I thought that perhaps acquiring the Canadian CPA, US CPA and maybe ACCA qualification combined with my MBA from IBA and working in different accounting firms in Canada for a number of years might help give me some credibility. I believe this route would give me a better chance of helping me to maximize my potential and earning capacity rather than aimlessly working 10-12 hours a day for an accounting firm being paid a very measly salary and dealing with too much fast paced stress, time pressures and deadlines which i will not be able to cope with in the long run. Besides at the age of 35 now, i don't think trying to aim for a career in the big 4 is wise because working in the big 4 will mean working away very very long hours on a frequent basis.

So bottom line, i now need to make smart and best decisions for myself given my circumstances. If i am going to be staying and living in Canada, US for the rest of my life, then maybe i can think about working for another 3-5 years in an accounting firm and try to get more experience and then gradually take steps to try to establish my own accounting practice at home and see how it goes. The other option is to try and get into the govt i.e. CRA or Auditor General's office, enjoy a very good work life balance and then use the extra time to get into teaching like i know some people do and this way they manage to augment their incomes.

In the scenario if i am required to move back to Pakistan, then i think working for a company in Pakistan will be a backward step and the better idea would be to try and get into the education industry.

Thought i would atleast get some feedback, tips and advice from experienced accountants here.

I am really looking forward to suggestions and feedback from accountants because the accounting firm life is now really getting to me, it feels like torture having to deal with the stress now and i am desperate to find a way out for myself and not go on aimlessly forever.
I will be moving to Canada in couple of months and will try my luck in Big 4 & industry. Small accounting firm will be my last option
I have CPA, ACCA & Msc Finance
I suffer with depression & Anxiety so you are not alone its quite common thing now a days.

Have you tried in industry ?
 

NasNY

Minister (2k+ posts)
So your skills are number crunching, attention to details, multi tasking.

My advise is get into banking and work your way up in whatever interest you, branch manger, or corporate banking executive. Similar kind of work but less stressful.

If the salary is not enough at first, you can also start your practice on the side, you can also do a weekend teaching course for financial planning for the common folks.

Whatever you do, make sure you are happy in it, everyone has issues with their job, even the guy tasting chocolates for a living gets fed up.
 

Waqas85

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
after reading this guy story it reminds me my own .. i have done MBA suffer a lot to find good job in dubai than worked 6 years in dubai full stressful life... but while doing job i got stock market info (which i always share my thoughts on siasat.pk before leaving my job in dubai). so i spend 6 years in job and 6 years in part time learning US stock market how it works chart analysis etc etc etc .... honestly i would say in accounts field dubai is most headache country for getting job and for retain ur job ... now i m happily doing my stock after opening my stock account from dubai based broker and.... so i would recomend rather than study find your ways to do own business rather than to study again and get a job....
you can see my posts i use to ask info from all of guyz here..... as you are in western its easy for u to learn and open account and make good money .....

do ISTAKHARA before doing anything it will help u out...
 

bhaibarood

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
after reading this guy story it reminds me my own .. i have done MBA suffer a lot to find good job in dubai than worked 6 years in dubai full stressful life... but while doing job i got stock market info (which i always share my thoughts on siasat.pk before leaving my job in dubai). so i spend 6 years in job and 6 years in part time learning US stock market how it works chart analysis etc etc etc .... honestly i would say in accounts field dubai is most headache country for getting job and for retain ur job ... now i m happily doing my stock after opening my stock account from dubai based broker and.... so i would recomend rather than study find your ways to do own business rather than to study again and get a job....
you can see my posts i use to ask info from all of guyz here..... as you are in western its easy for u to learn and open account and make good money .....

do ISTAKHARA before doing anything it will help u out...
I remember you MR !
kindly enlighten the forum members about hot stocks to own.
lyft lol ?uber ?
 

UFC2015

Citizen
I will be moving to Canada in couple of months and will try my luck in Big 4 & industry. Small accounting firm will be my last option
I have CPA, ACCA & Msc Finance
I suffer with depression & Anxiety so you are not alone its quite common thing now a days.

Have you tried in industry ?
Deciding to go to industry will mean that the plans to set up my own accounting, book keeping practice down the like will take a hit. The reason why i was plodding through the public accounting route was to get maximum public accounting experience so that it will serve me well the moment i decide to set up my own shop. Because when you set up your own shop, you need to know your stuff, accounting is a very litigious profession and therefore you need to have a very solid grip on things.

The other option i was exploring is to just get into teaching.
 
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