American Crimes Against Muslims.Karbala Of 21 Century.

Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Fallujah . . .
And so it turns out that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, though not until we arrived and started using them.
Along with whatever else we did to Fallujah -- exacted collective punishment on a defiant city (a war crime) in November 2004, killed thousands of civilians, shattered the infrastructure (nearly six years later, the sewage system hasn't been repaired and waste flows in the streets) -- we also, apparently, nuked the city, leaving a legacy of cancer, leukemia, infant mortality and genetic abnormality.
Freedom isn't free. Remember when that was the go-to phrase of the citizen war zealots among us, their all-purpose rebuttal when those of us appalled by this insane war cited civilian casualty stats? Discussion over. Thought stops here.
This is the power of language. Call it "war" and along come glory, duty, courage, sacrifice: the best of humanity writ large. The word is impenetrable; it sets the heart in motion; God makes an appearance, blesses the troops, blesses the weapons. Operation Iraqi Freedom: They'll greet us with open arms.
At what point do we learn our lesson, that "war" is a moral cesspool of horrific consequences, especially, and most troublingly, unintended ones?
Thus last November, a group of British and Iraqi doctors petitioned the U.N. to investigate the alarming rise in birth defects at Fallujah's hospitals. "Young women in Fallujah," they wrote, ". . . are terrified of having children because of the increasing number of babies born grotesquely deformed, with no heads, two heads, a single eye in their foreheads, scaly bodies or missing limbs. In addition, young children in Fallujah are now experiencing hideous cancers and leukemias."
The official U.S. response was that the doctors' letter was anecdotal: There have been no studies to verify that anything is truly amiss in Fallujah, beyond the devastation caused by U.S. troops and bombs. Now that has changed.
The International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health has just published an epidemiological study, "Cancer, Infant Mortality and Birth Sex-Ratio in Fallujah, Iraq 2005-2009," which has found, among much else, that Fallujah is experiencing higher rates of cancer, leukemia and infant mortality than Hiroshima and Nagasaki did in 1945.
Perhaps most eerily, the study, conducted by a team of 11 researchers this past January and February, in 711 households, found a radical shift in the ratio of female-to-male births. Under normal circumstances, the human constant is approximately 1,050 boys born for every 1,000 girls. In post-invasion Fallujah, 860 boys have been born for every 1,000 girls -- similar to a shift seen in Hiroshima after the atom bomb was dropped.
Dr. Chris Busby, one of the study's authors, said only "some very major mutagenic exposure" could account for such an aberration. The most likely culprit, he said, is depleted uranium, a dense metal with extraordinary penetrating ability used in the manufacture of missiles, shells and bombs. DU explodes on impact into an extremely fine, radioactive dust that settles on the ground or is carried by the wind. While the U.S. military continues to deny that breathing it is harmful, many scientists insist that it is highly toxic and a likely contributor to Gulf War Syndrome -- that it is, in short, a nuclear weapon, with fallout as dangerous as a nuclear bomb.
To read about this is to grow increasingly sickened and disturbed at who we are and what we are doing: still debating "the war," still dignifying this ongoing hemorrhage of national values with the term; still murdering civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and resolutely fleeing from any responsibility for the ecocide we have committed in Iraq; and still silently, inevitably, preparing for the next one.
Would that we could bring the suffering of Fallujah to the heart of America, or at least to the heart of Congress, which just OK'd another $59 billion to "fund the troops" (notice the delicacy of the Pentagon's phrasing) in Afghanistan.
Enormous, future-devouring numbers turn over in Congress with such ease, if the money is demanded by the war machine. Money dedicated to building the future, or repairing the damage from old, dead wars, is another matter entirely: Suddenly it's real, like a pound of flesh, and meted out only with howls of anguish.
To help clean up our legacy of Agent Orange in Vietnam, for instance, Congress has appropriated $9 million since 2007. We sprayed 19 million gallons of this highly toxic defoliant on the country between 1962 and 1971, causing harm to at least 3 million Vietnamese in the process. Our sense of responsibility amounts to $3 per person. And such money becomes available only after decades of denial that we have any responsibility at all.
I think again about Fallujah. The city's suffering will haunt our national dreams for decades to come. It is our future. In a generation or so, our children will face the consequences of what we have done there; but in the meantime, we'll keep trying to buy "victory" and ultimate justification in multi-billion-dollar increments until our financial bankruptcy equals our moral bankruptcy.
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Robert Koehler
 

Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
How Many Iraqis Did We "Liberate" From Life on Earth?War Criminal Bush where is he?

Is there a man or woman in America today who is willing to stand at noon in the public square and claim that demands to bomb, invade, and occupy other people's countries have anything to do with human liberation?
If such people can be found, let them answer a few simple questions about the US invasion and occupation of Iraq.
How many Iraqis did we "liberate" from the companionship of their loved ones?
How many Iraqis did we "liberate" from dwelling in the houses and towns and the country of their birth?
How many Iraqis did we "liberate" from life on Earth?
If any American who claims to believe that indefinite continuation of the war in Afghanistan -- or a US/Israeli military attack on Iran -- is justified by humanitarian concerns cannot give a fact-based and intellectually coherent answer to the question of how many Iraqis have lost their lives as a result of the US invasion and occupation of Iraq, do not that person's claims for "humanitarian" war, bombing, and occupation deserve zero credence?
To state that we cannot know how many have died is outrageously false. It is vacuously true that we cannot know exactly how many have died. But in the diverse fields of human inquiry and endeavor, there are many large numbers that are important which we cannot know exactly. If understanding the magnitude of a number is important, we do not throw up our hands and say, "we can never know." Imagine a reference book that said, "we don't know how many humans are alive on Earth today, because no one has counted them all."
If we want to understand the magnitude of a large number that we cannot count, we estimate it.
And there have now been several attempts to estimate the death toll. In November 2008, Tim Lambert published the following table comparing several estimates, extrapolating the numbers to October 2008:
Survey ..................Violent deaths .....Excess deaths
ILCS .................... 160,000
Lancet 1 ..............350,000 ..................510,000
IFHS .....................310,000..................740,000
Lancet 2: ..............1,200,000..............1,300,000
ORB: .....................1,200,000

If Lambert were to revisit the issue today, he would produce a table that would look something like this:
Survey ..................Violent deaths .....Excess deaths
ILCS .................... 180,000
Lancet 1 ..............400,000 ..................580,000
IFHS .....................350,000 ..................840,000
Lancet 2 ..............1,370,000 ..............1,480,000
ORB .....................1,370,000

These numbers are different from one another. Based on these different numbers, can we say anything meaningful about how many Iraqis have died as a result of the US invasion and occupation beginning in March 2003?
Absolutely we can. We can make the following statement with very high confidence: "Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died as a result of the US invasion."
So, if you happen to run into any American who claims to support the open-ended war and occupation of Afghanistan, or a US/Israeli attack on Iran, or any other demand to bomb, invade, or occupy someone else's country based on "humanitarian" motivations, ask them to say this sentence: "Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died as a result of the US invasion and occupation of their country." If they can't say this sentence, you can safely ignore anything else they have to say.
 

Knowledge Seeker

Senator (1k+ posts)
یزید وقت کے سامنے کھڑے ہیں سب خاموش
حسین ہی جو چلاے تو کوئی بات چلے​
 

digitalzygot

Senator (1k+ posts)
That's why I say it's WAR OF TERROR not war on terror, they have messed up the world, they have no clue what they have done/or should do now. It will take generations if world survives, I hope I am wrong but there's so much anger & frustation from Muslim world from the constant lies, killings and dramas only if US realises the only solution to cool things down is leave Muslim countries and support the truth, formation of free indepedant Palestine nation with international troops responsible for its security, leave afghanistan and Iraq,free independat kashmir and finding solution of Iran by talking but will it happen???
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
and dont forget the famous saying of former Sec of State, Madelene Albright (she sounded Alldumb to me making this statement): Killing of one million Iraqi children was worth it.


They have annual memorial of only 21 kids killed by their own man at Columbine High school.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
That's why I say it's WAR OF TERROR not war on terror, they have messed up the world, they have no clue what they have done/or should do now. It will take generations if world survives, I hope I am wrong but there's so much anger & frustation from Muslim world from the constant lies, killings and dramas only if US realises the only solution to cool things down is leave Muslim countries and support the truth, formation of free indepedant Palestine nation with international troops responsible for its security, leave afghanistan and Iraq,free independat kashmir and finding solution of Iran by talking but will it happen???

Because they always follow their masters sitting in Tel Aviv

the only solutions to THEIR survival is to dump Jews and become our ally. But the Jewish media have them under wise grip as tight as they can. They cant even make a move
 

Zeeshan Khan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Such posts suggest the idea that there are people who get influenced and inspired by word play and actually start believing the theory that the war on terror was unnecessary. For one minute, all members of this forum need to think about the countless innocent lives that have been taken by these terrorists. There are two sides to every coin and this is a complex paradigm to understand. Let us not limit ourselves to only one side of the fence.
 

Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
Traitors anti Pakistani fraudsters with muslim names will always defend white christian invaders of muslim lands, case and point the above post.War on terror
Was a way get in muslimlands by the zionist war lords in america, the number one terrorist on the planet.2 Hindustan,3 israhell.We need to kick the kick
the jew run empire out of islamic land including the dallal brown slaves with bad english period.Revoke their Pakistani citizen and send back to their white masters in UK AND USA,land of sodomites and queers like zeeshan.