‘PTI won’t be able to support bill penalising forces’ criticism’

Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

ماہر قانون بیرسٹر علی ظفر نے کہا ہے کہ تحریک انصاف پاک فوج پر تنقید سے متعلق مجوزہ قانون سازی کی حمایت نہیں کرسکے گی کیوں کہ یہ آزادی اظہار رائے کے قانون کے خلاف ہے۔

بیرسٹر علی ظفر تحریک انصاف کے رکن اور وزیراعظم عمران خان کے قریبی افراد میں شمار ہوتے ہیں۔ وزیراعظم قانونی معاملات پر ان کی رائے کو اہمیت دیتے ہیں۔

تحریک انصاف کے رکن قومی اسمبلی امجد علی خان نے گزشتہ دنوں قومی اسمبلی میں ایک بل پیش کیا ہے۔ اس بل میں انہوں نے تعزیرات پاکستان اور ضابطہ فوجداری میں ترمیم کی تجویز پیش کی ہے۔

ان ترامیم کے تحت افواج پاکستان پر بطور ادارہ یا کسی فوجی افسر پر تنقید کرنے، اس کا تمسخر اڑانے یا بدنام کرنے پر دو سال قید کی سزا اور 5 لاکھ جرمانہ یا پھر بیک قید و جرمانہ دونوں سزائیں ہوسکیں گی۔

یہ بل قومی اسمبلی میں پیش ہوچکا ہے اور اس پر بحث ہونا باقی ہے۔ سماء ٹی وی کے اینکرپرسن ندیم مک نے اپنے پروگرام میں بیرسٹر علی ظفر سے پوچھا کہ کیا تحریک انصاف اس قانون کو منظور کروانے کی حمایت کرے گی۔

بیرسٹر علی ظفر نے کہا کہ یہ ایک پرائیویٹ ممبر بل ہے۔ جو ایک رکن اسمبلی نے اپنی سوچ اور ضمیر کے مطابق پیش کیا ہے اور یہ اس کا آئینی حق ہے۔ پھر پارلیمنٹ اس پر بحث کرتی ہے۔ میرا خیال ہے کہ تحریک انصاف اس بل کی حمایت نہیں کرسکے گی۔

بیرسٹر علی ظفر نے کہا کہ میرے خیال میں اس قسم بل کی ضرورت نہیں۔ کسی بھی ادارے کو تنقید سے بالاتر نہیں ہونا چاہیے۔ جس ادارے پر تنقید ہوگی، وہ بہتری کی جانب جاسکے گا۔ چاہئے وہ عدلیہ سمیت کوئی بھی ادارہ ہو۔

امجد علی خان کی جانب سے یہ بل پیش ہونے سے قبل پاکستان کے مختلف شہروں میں تین صحافیوں کے خلاف پاک فوج کو بدنام کرنے کے الزامات کے تحت مقدمات درج کیے گئے ہیں۔ جن میں کراچی کے بلال فاروقی اور اسلام آباد کے اسد طور شامل ہیں۔ ان کے ساتھ سنیئر صحافی اور سابق چیئرمین پیمرا ابصار عالم کے خلاف سنگین غداری کا مقدمہ درج کیا گیا ہے۔

پروگرام میں شریک سنیئر قانون دان سلمان اکرم راجا نے کہا ہے کہ اپوزیشن کو صحافیوں کے خلاف مقدمات کا معاملہ پارلیمنٹ میں اٹھانا چاہیے جبکہ حکومت کو بھی اس معاملے پر توجہ دینے کی ضرورت ہے کہ آخر غداری کے مقدمات کیوں درج کیے جارہے ہیں۔

سلمان اکرم راجا نے وکلاء کو مشورہ دیا کہ وہ اس قسم کے مقدمات کا سامنا کرنے والے صحافیوں کو قانونی معاونت فراہم کریں۔

 
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Kam

Councller (250+ posts)
There is difference between legal or illegal or due or undue criticism..........Freedom of expression is only for justified criticism.............Freedom of expression should not be unlimited..............
 

Amatuka

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I believe that if someone is criticizing army or any army officer, he/she should have enough evidence to support his/her claims. Otherwise these people should face the music in the court and if they are only defaming the institution or any army officer they should be punishing adequately so others should take heed and do not bark unnecessarily.

As at the end of the day army is the only organized institution left in Pakistan and they are defending the country with their lives and selflessly serving in every calamity.
 

Kam

Councller (250+ posts)
I believe that if someone is criticizing army or any army officer, he/she should have enough evidence to support his/her claims. Otherwise these people should face the music in the court and if they are only defaming the institution or any army officer they should be punishing adequately so others should take heed and do not bark unnecessarily.

As at the end of the day army is the only organized institution left in Pakistan and they are defending the country with their lives and selflessly serving in every calamity.
Do not mind, usually i do not use such wording

But in Pakistan, basis of criticism are like "some one runs away with an officer, but after his noono appears to be a case of hreshan and preshan" So is ki zimadar foj hai..............
 

Kam

Councller (250+ posts)
I believe that if someone is criticizing army or any army officer, he/she should have enough evidence to support his/her claims. Otherwise these people should face the music in the court and if they are only defaming the institution or any army officer they should be punishing adequately so others should take heed and do not bark unnecessarily.

As at the end of the day army is the only organized institution left in Pakistan and they are defending the country with their lives and selflessly serving in every calamity.
I think its fault of army as well...........Consistant compromise and more accomodating space has created devils............
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
most of the criticism done is done by those who have an agenda like that group of bc journalist led by hussain haqqani and the pseudo batty communist who are against the idea of Pakistan, like that cretin hoodbhai.

funny thing is I dare those saath monkeys to criticize the american military.
they will be shafted in Guantanamo bay.

then its the political parties like those who are aligned with our enemy india! just to save their corruption they will go to any length against Pakistan. lets us not forget haram di too is the reason why we are on FATF list and these traitor politicians are running social media teams to demote Pakistan's armed forces.

if only you could make these bc spend winter in siachen and summed in cholistan, thar or Balochistan in over 50+C.

But its the quom that needs to defeat these bc's. Sadly quom is asleep.
 

Kam

Councller (250+ posts)
most of the criticism done is done by those who have an agenda like that group of bc journalist led by hussain haqqani and the pseudo batty communist who are against the idea of Pakistan, like that cretin hoodbhai.

funny thing is I dare those saath monkeys to criticize the american military.
they will be shafted in Guantanamo bay.

then its the political parties like those who are aligned with our enemy india! just to save their corruption they will go to any length against Pakistan. lets us not forget haram di too is the reason why we are on FATF list and these traitor politicians are running social media teams to demote Pakistan's armed forces.

if only you could make these bc spend winter in siachen and summed in cholistan, thar or Balochistan in over 50+C.

But its the quom that needs to defeat these bc's. Sadly quom is asleep.
Nation is awake.........but institution are doing consistant compromise..........
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Its the poor foot soldiers who serve at -40 degrees not the generals who take billions in corruption.
The general goes through that process! its not like peepee that you are lucky to be born a a jagirdar then become a feudal lord a master over your lands. secondly high ranking officers have been killed in the WOT so rest your shoddy propaganda.
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nation is awake.........but institution are doing consistant compromise..........
there is only ONE way to stop that compromise. The quom has to say No to corruption. You see the general public take a stand as well. now that kabaria left under pressure that was delivered by that harami diesel. BUT if the general public had made a stand then that would have worked and prevented that pork getting away! But the general public in Pakistan is always asleep.
 

Tit4Tat

Senator (1k+ posts)
there is only ONE way to stop that compromise. The quom has to say No to corruption. You see the general public take a stand as well. now that kabaria left under pressure that was delivered by that harami diesel. BUT if the general public had made a stand then that would have worked and prevented that pork getting away! But the general public in Pakistan is always asleep.
agreed but add boots to too, they need to be held accountable as well for their misadventures

Otherwise a fair system can never be implemented

and by boots I mean few Gernails
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
agreed but add boots to too, they need to be held accountable as well for their misadventures

Otherwise a fair system can never be implemented

and by boots I mean few Gernails
why not all gernail and that is what you actually mean! right.

why not make mian a gernail? it will hand over the whole of Pakistan to india for its few chori and dacoity!
 

Tit4Tat

Senator (1k+ posts)
why not all gernail and that is what you actually mean! right.

why not make mian a gernail? it will hand over the whole of Pakistan to india for its few chori and dacoity!
kash kay app log aik sachay Pakistani bun kr Socho and rise above political differences
Fuk Nawaz, it’s existing govt Job to receive looted money pooray saooo arab dallar

not all Gernails are incompetent and adventurous

it’s always only few who tatnish the image of whole institute with no checks on them
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
kash kay app log aik sachay Pakistani bun kr Socho and rise above political differences
Fuk Nawaz, it’s existing govt Job to receive looted money pooray saooo arab dallar

not all Gernails are incompetent and adventurous

it’s always only few who tatnish the image of whole institute with no checks on them
calling wrong, wrong is my prerogative. by calling wrong, calling out wrong is what Pakistani society lacks. giving nawaj as an example of our time is the best example. there is peepee and other little minions too!
 

Tit4Tat

Senator (1k+ posts)
calling wrong, wrong is my prerogative. by calling wrong, calling out wrong is what Pakistani society lacks. giving nawaj as an example of our time is the best example. there is peepee and other little minions too!
we are on same page if you say that accountability should be fair to all including the holy cows
 

shujauddin

Senator (1k+ posts)
there is only ONE way to stop that compromise. The quom has to say No to corruption. You see the general public take a stand as well. now that kabaria left under pressure that was delivered by that harami diesel. BUT if the general public had made a stand then that would have worked and prevented that pork getting away! But the general public in Pakistan is always asleep.
going through any process does not make you a " God" and such everybody should be subjected to public opinion whether they get a praise or a critical assessment. Example : General Bajwa 's money laundering and foreign assets . Should we maintain silence caz he has gone through some training process and for that u feel sympathy for him? No sir no ! he is accountable and will be bashed in every public forum until he clears his name through a judicial process.
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
going through any process does not make you a " God" and such everybody should be subjected to public opinion whether they get a praise or a critical assessment. Example : General Bajwa 's money laundering and foreign assets . Should we maintain silence caz he has gone through some training process and for that u feel sympathy for him? No sir no ! he is accountable and will be bashed in every public forum until he clears his name through a judicial process.
wow, so do you hold mian as nauzubillah 'God'. you see mian ONLY gave us qatari khat and his dukhtar gave us the dukhi calibri font typed letter!

everyone is subjected to scrutiny. but there is a line between proving your assets and making a phand merasi show for 3 years in courts and nothing to show but.....qatari letter and calibri font letter.
 
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