ین اے 249i Faisa voda ke Seat PTI ko MQM ko de deni chaheay

Qutubddin Aibak Qazilbash

Councller (250+ posts)
Please get Karchi and Sindh to give Imran Khan big majority first so he can make goverment in
Please note we are on the same side. Urdu speaking and other people of urban areas are the most natural allied of PTI.
PTI has failed miserably in being blackmailed by a racist /terrorist party i.e PPP.
PTI failed to recognise the issue of census. Urban Sindh population is more than the rural votes. Demography has changed. As if that wasn't enough, Quota system was extended by the PTI by a Presidential SRO. This is dagger in the heart of urban sindh.
Establishment is terrorised of the PPP. Rangers have been used as private security guards by the PPP and the establishment had given a medical NRO to Zardari and his sister ...why?
Both PTI and urban Sindh's enemy is the same. PPP goal is not just stealing from the Federation. The Sindhutva is not a hoax. PPP aspires to be the kings and state rulers like of UAE, Bruenei and other princely states. Their designs are to use Sindh as though it was separate from Pakistan.
That alone makes PTI the natural choice for urban Sindh.
But PTI should be willing to do something which makes their support viable and based on merit. Unlike other parts of Pakistan, people will not support PTI just because he was a good cricketer or is good looks....Urban dwellers have very serious grievances and they ought to be addressed.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nahi bhai ye PTI ki jeeti hue seat hai aur PTI ko he apna banda khara karna chahiye. Every seat & especially NA seat is very important for legislation & voting.
اگر تحریک انصاف نے یہ سیٹ ایم قیو ایم کو دی اور اپنا امیدوار کھڑا نہ کیا تو ایم قیو ایم جیت سکتی ہے مگر تحریک انصاف کے اپنے امیدوار کے جیتنے کا امکان نہیں خاص کر اگر پی ڈی ایم کی طرف سے ایک مشترکہ امیدوار آیا - سننے میں آ رہا ہے مفتاح اسمعیل نون لیگ کا امیدوار ہو گا - فیصل واڈا ارب پتی تھا خوب پیسہ بھی لگایا اور اس وقت لوگ تحریک انصاف کو چانس دینے کے بھی حق میں تھے مگر اب حالات مختلف ہیں - کراچی سے آیندہ الیکشن میں تحریک انصاف سکڑ جائے گی جبکے پیپلز پارٹی ، ایم قیو ایم اور نون لیگ یہاں سے اپنی سیٹیں گین کریں گے -
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
فیصل ووڈا الیکشن بہت کم مارجن سے جیتا تھا. اگر پی ٹی آئ اپنا بندہ کھڑا کرے گی تو مہنگائی کی وجہ سے بری طرح ہار جائیگی. اس علاقے اردو اسپیکنگ ووٹر کافی موجود ہے. ایم کیو ایم کو ٹکٹ دینا ہی عقلمندی ہوگی
بہت حقیقت پسند تجزیہ کیا ہے میرا بھی یہی خیال ہے - ایم قیو ایم سینیٹ میں اپنا ڈپٹی چیئرمین لانے کے لئے تحریک انصاف سے مدد مانگ رہی ہے مگر ان کا مشترکہ نہ چیئرمین اور نہ ڈپٹی جیتے گا - پی ڈی ایم پہلے ہی اکثریت میں اور خفیہ ووٹ میں زرداری کے جادو کی وجہ سے مزید ووٹ بھی انہیں مل جائینگے - ایم قیو ایم ابھی سے کراچی کی سیٹ مانگے اور تحریک انصاف دے تو ان کے لئے اچھا ہے ورنہ یہ سیٹ ان کے ہاتھ سے جائے گی -
 

Curious_Mind

Senator (1k+ posts)
Nahi bhai ye PTI ki jeeti hue seat hai aur PTI ko he apna banda khara karna chahiye. Every seat & especially NA seat is very important for legislation & voting.
If you know current ground reality in Karachi, with current performance, PTI would be number 3 in that constituency if bi-elections happen today.
 

kakamuna420

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
we are playing politics while people are suffering. There is no use of elections as whoever wins will not do anything for the constituency
 

Champion 01

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If MQM have better chance to win then yes PTI should give the seat to MQM and they will get their support for next 2 and half years in return.
Nai yaar, MQM, no way, these people are NOT trust worrhy, so please do not recommend them. Im a born Karachiite, i kno what damage they have done to Karachi. So PLEASE.
 

Doom1111

Minister (2k+ posts)
If MQM have better chance to win then yes PTI should give the seat to MQM and they will get their support for next 2 and half years in return.
That is what everyone is saying. NA249 is to divided. Giving to MQM is better choice and focus should be grabbing Na75. PTI should support MQM with proper gunda style to outclass PPP gunda.

I remember 1990 when MQM throw out entire PPP from Sindh assembly did not allow them to entire for entire 5 years.
 

Mikkix

Minister (2k+ posts)
Please ask Imran Khan to give to Karachi which they have been crying for. Karachi has already given the crucial 14 seats and most importantly they chose PTI over their old party MQM...,.they did so hoping that Imran would secure them from the racist war lords of Sindhi racist party. To add insult, Imran Khan went to extend this quota system indefinitely. That is stabbing in the back.
True facts you quote. Pti performance in karachi is zero. Can't win again thanks to establishment.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Karachi walay are very very unhappy with Imran Khan & PTI.
His entire focus has been on Punjab, Islamabad and he has left Karachi at the mercy of wolves of Sindhi racist party. On top of it, establishment has been supporting the Sindhi racists. It is abundantly clear.
The most painful act was promulgation of indefinite extension of Quota System which is a system of apartheid. It leads to disenfranchisement of Karachi & urban citizens.

In few sentences, please let us know what kind of actions a Federal govt can do for Karachi bypassing provincial government?
MQM used to rule Sindh during Musharraf time and then they became allies of PPP, please share why they were unable to finish Quota system in Sindh?
A 20 years Quota system extension took place in 2013 when MQM and PPP were ruling Pakistan but blaming PTI.
 

Mikkix

Minister (2k+ posts)
Pti ye seat nhi nikal saktee baqee yahan bethe bachay pogo dekhen aur khuwab ma jitwa ye pti ko yaha se. Ma khud pti supporter magar dimagh khali nhi hai. Mqm k sath alliance ma pti jeete gee warna nhi. Agar mqm ko khara kia to pti voter mqm ko vote nhi dega kiunk wo basically pro pti voter nhi balkay anti mqm voter jo har us party ko vote dega jo nqm k khilaf ho. Agar pti ko khara kia to mqm ka voter pti ko vote dedega kiunk wo nazriyati paka voter hai aur party k liye kam karta ha bara organise ha party k faislay k mutabiq. Agar pti mqm dono khari ho gayi to pdm alliance jeet sakta ha aur 1 seal government alliance ki kam ho saktee hai. Jamat islami walay bus spoilers ka kirdar ada karenge inki auqat 2 takkay ki nhi vote politics k andar except jalsay bus. So better ye ha mqm support karay pti ko. Warna pti ne suport kia mqm ko to samjho pti voter pdm ko vote dega. Mqm ko chahiye aqal use karen aur agar wo waqayi karachi se sincere hain to pti ko full support karen karachi ki khatir sirf.
 

Qutubddin Aibak Qazilbash

Councller (250+ posts)
In few sentences, please let us know what kind of actions a Federal govt can do for Karachi bypassing provincial government?
1. Reinstate the position of Karachi back to 1960's i.e. Federal Administered Area .
2. Army supervised census of urban areas.
3. Suspension of Quota system to position before 1972.

PTI will have a historic vote from urban sindh, if these three steps before the elections.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
1. Reinstate the position of Karachi back to 1960's i.e. Federal Administered Area .
2. Army supervised census of urban areas.
3. Suspension of Quota system to position before 1972.

PTI will have a historic vote from urban sindh, if these three steps before the elections.
On what basis PTI can do this without having 2/3rd majority in NA and Senate?
When MQM/PPP extended the quota system in 2013 did MQM lost its popularity in Karachi?
 

Mikkix

Minister (2k+ posts)
That is what everyone is saying. NA249 is to divided. Giving to MQM is better choice and focus should be grabbing Na75. PTI should support MQM with proper gunda style to outclass PPP gunda.

I remember 1990 when MQM throw out entire PPP from Sindh assembly did not allow them to entire for entire 5 years.
Bilkul ghalat. There is mqm voter and anti mqm voter who for the time being is pti voter so if pti won't take part in election then anti mqm voter will vote for pdm. So pti ko chahiye apna banda uta Ray aur mqm se support lele. Bus aik masla mqm ppp k sath milkar game na karde. Agar mqm karachi se serious hai aur agar urdu speaking ya muhajir aqal aur karachi k sath kharay hain to pti ko vote karen aur agar urdu speaking muhajir mqm supporter bhi hain tab bhi pti ko support karen sirf karachi ki khatir.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I think as a gesture PTI ko MQM ko support kerna chaheay Karachi main Faisa voda wali seat per next by election iss say acha message jaey ga quen k PPP oar PDM k daaku saazashain ker rahey hain.
Why PTI shouldn't resign from all seats of Sindh and then help MQM to re-elect on them to show even more positive gesture?
 

Qutubddin Aibak Qazilbash

Councller (250+ posts)
On what basis PTI can do this without having 2/3rd majority in NA and Senate?
When MQM/PPP extended the quota system in 2013 did MQM lost its popularity in Karachi?
Forget about the MQM. It has been an ugly dream, a fraud and a scam. Karachiattes were conned for 3 decades , just like jat-butt clan of Northern Punjab were scammed by the shareefs.
Sindh, at the end of the day is part of Pakistan. It is not a separate state. At least not until PPP racist and separatist plans go all the way.
Islamabad will have to play heavy hand and impose Governor rule, suspend the Sind Provincial assembly and a presidential decree can declare Karachi reinstated back to Federal administered territory.
As for anyone who threatens the Federation, you can get them arrested and sent behind bars ..for anti state, treason and anti federation stance.
Establishment will have to stop treating PPP as their bahnoi. Army is well and truly terrified of PPP racists. They have not even had the courage to raid Bilawal House once.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Forget about the MQM. It has been an ugly dream, a fraud and a scam. Karachiattes were conned for 3 decades , just like jat-butt clan of Northern Punjab were scammed by the shareefs.
Sindh, at the end of the day is part of Pakistan. It is not a separate state. At least not until PPP racist and separatist plans go all the way.
Islamabad will have to play heavy hand and impose Governor rule, suspend the Sind Provincial assembly and a presidential decree can declare Karachi reinstated back to Federal administered territory.
As for anyone who threatens the Federation, you can get them arrested and sent behind bars ..for anti state, treason and anti federation stance.
Establishment will have to stop treating PPP as their bahnoi. Army is well and truly terrified of PPP racists. They have not even had the courage to raid Bilawal House once.
On what basis president can declare Karachi Federally Administrated Area?
 

Qutubddin Aibak Qazilbash

Councller (250+ posts)
On what basis president can declare Karachi Federally Administrated Area?
I am sorry, I am assuming you are a grown up. I hope you are serious.
On what basis? On the basis that he is the President of Pakistan and he has the right, being the head of the state. And the fact that Sindh is not a separate, independent state but an integral part of Pakistan!!!!
Do you think Zardari asked for any basis , when he went around screwing the country, stealing wealth and sent it overseas through whores, and occupied land of Pakistan and called it his own. Did anyone ask , when entire expensive real estate of Karachi has been bought by dacaits and dakoo of PPP ?
If all of that went unquestioned, then why would anyone raise an eyebrow if Governor rule is imposed on Karachi.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I am sorry, I am assuming you are a grown up. I hope you are serious.
On what basis? On the basis that he is the President of Pakistan and he has the right, being the head of the state. And the fact that Sindh is not a separate, independent state but an integral part of Pakistan!!!!
Do you think Zardari asked for any basis , when he went around screwing the country, stealing wealth and sent it overseas through whores, and occupied land of Pakistan and called it his own. Did anyone ask , when entire expensive real estate of Karachi has been bought by dacaits and dakoo of PPP ?
If all of that went unquestioned, then why would anyone raise an eyebrow if Governor rule is imposed on Karachi.
Can president declare Lahore Federally Administrated Area?
Can president declare Faisalabad Federally Administrated Area?
Can president declare XYZ City of Pakistan Federally Administrated Area?