کیا امام مہدی کا ظہور ہو چکا ہے ؟

There is only 1

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there is no statement by our Prophet in Imam Mahdi. all made up stuff.
On what basis we claim about Imam Mahdi?
Can someone refer me Ayah of Quran regarding Imam Mahdi?
and who in your opinion is the real Imam Mehdi and when he is supposed to arrive?
Whenever their viewership starts to go down they start starting discussing things like these. Serving no purpose at all besides just to gain popularity from this society which gets high on emotional religiosity.
[11:86]
اللہ کا بقیہ تمہارے لئے بہتر ہے اگر تم ایماندار ہو؟

آپ کے ہاں اس آیت کی کیا تفسیر ہے ؟
الله نے کس چیز /شخص کو باقی رکھا ہے اور وہ چیز یا شخص صرف ایمانداروں کے لئے ہی خیر کیوں ہے ؟
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
[11:86]
اللہ کا بقیہ تمہارے لئے بہتر ہے اگر تم ایماندار ہو؟

آپ کے ہاں اس آیت کی کیا تفسیر ہے ؟
الله نے کس چیز /شخص کو باقی رکھا ہے اور وہ چیز یا شخص صرف ایمانداروں کے لئے ہی خیر کیوں ہے ؟
That is the problem with you lot, you take ayahs out of context, do wrong translations and wrongs tafseers to twist and warp it into what you want them to be. Trying to prove imamat and mehdi.

The original ayah is

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This part of Surah Hud with its preceding verse is talking about Prophet Shuaib a.s and how he is imploring his people . Give people their full measure and weight, not to cheat people in trade, steal others properties or spread corruption in the land AND

This is where ayah 86 starts : then what ever is left ( as a legit profit ) by Allah is best for you if you are true believers.

Aab is mein imamat aur mehdi kahan se aagaya????

And for a second lets accept your matric failed explaination. Then it is the weakest of weakest proofs for someone like the supposed Mehdi, someone who will turn the world upside down and major world events will take place and his only mention is in half an ayah?

P.S: There is only 12 no need to respond to my post I am only posting this to expose your people's rungbaazi to people here who might not be too familiar with your kind and how even the Quran is not spared by you lot.
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
اسلام کے علاوہ دیگر مذاھب عیسائیت ، یہودیت ، حتی کہ ہندومت اور کئی دور دراز کے مذاھب میں بھی آخری زمانے میں ایک عظیم بادشاہ کا ذکر ہے جو نیک لوگوں کو ظالموں سے نجات دے گا


So you just proved that this whole concept of imamat and mehdi is actually just copied from mythology of false ancient religions. Well done.
 

timpas

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So you just proved that this whole concept of imamat and mehdi is actually just copied from mythology of false ancient religions. Well done.
You are right. There is a lot of misinformation out there. Don't really know which part is in Quran and which part is made up. Can you recommend some authentic Quran translations or tafseer which is uncompromised by mullahs. I will appreciate it alot
 

There is only 1

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So you just proved that this whole concept of imamat and mehdi is actually just copied from mythology of false ancient religions. Well done.

کافرا جی ! میں نہیں جانتا کہ آپ کے اس اعتراض کا کیسے جواب دوں ، کہ جہاں کوئی ناقابل تردید بات آ جاتی ہے وہاں ہم پر پچھلے ادیان کو کاپی کرنے کا الزام آ جاتا ہے ہم چونکہ آخری نبی کی امت جو ٹھہرے

آپ سے پہلے میں ایک اور کافر سے روزوں کی افادیت پر بات کر رہا تھا ، جب وہ مجھے جھٹلا نہ سکا تو اس نے بھی یہی کہا تھا کہ روزوں کا تصور پچھلی امتوں سے لیا گیا ہے
. . . . . . . . . . . .

ویسے میں آج خوش گوار حیرت میں مبتلا ہوں کہ آپ نے ایک دوسرے کمنٹ میں آیت پر بات کی ہے اور ایسی بات کرنا آپ کے لئے تو ناممکن تھا

چونکہ آپ نے جواب نہ دینے کی تلقین کی ہے اور مجھے بھی یقین ہے کہ آپ زیادہ دیر معقولیت کا لباس نہیں پہنیں گی ، اس لئے آپ کو جواب دینا میں مناسب نہیں سمجھتا . . . . . ویسے بھی میں کافروں سے اسلام کے اندرونی معملات پر بات نہیں کرتا

جن لوگوں کو میں نے قوٹ کیا ہے وہ بات کریں گے تو ان کو جواب ضرور دوں گا
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

جن لوگوں کو میں نے قوٹ کیا ہے وہ بات کریں گے تو ان کو جواب ضرور دوں گ
Well if that's the case then you should not be talking to yourself and your kind, believer of 12 demigods! Please take a vow of silence or become a Muslim 😂
 

Munawarkhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
[11:86]
اللہ کا بقیہ تمہارے لئے بہتر ہے اگر تم ایماندار ہو؟

آپ کے ہاں اس آیت کی کیا تفسیر ہے ؟
الله نے کس چیز /شخص کو باقی رکھا ہے اور وہ چیز یا شخص صرف ایمانداروں کے لئے ہی خیر کیوں ہے ؟

apni batado, go research wali philosophy is stupid.
 

Munawarkhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
So you are eligible to give fatwa on who is Muslim & who is not?



کافرا جی ! میں نہیں جانتا کہ آپ کے اس اعتراض کا کیسے جواب دوں ، کہ جہاں کوئی ناقابل تردید بات آ جاتی ہے وہاں ہم پر پچھلے ادیان کو کاپی کرنے کا الزام آ جاتا ہے ہم چونکہ آخری نبی کی امت جو ٹھہرے

آپ سے پہلے میں ایک اور کافر سے روزوں کی افادیت پر بات کر رہا تھا ، جب وہ مجھے جھٹلا نہ سکا تو اس نے بھی یہی کہا تھا کہ روزوں کا تصور پچھلی امتوں سے لیا گیا ہے
. . . . . . . . . . . .

ویسے میں آج خوش گوار حیرت میں مبتلا ہوں کہ آپ نے ایک دوسرے کمنٹ میں آیت پر بات کی ہے اور ایسی بات کرنا آپ کے لئے تو ناممکن تھا

چونکہ آپ نے جواب نہ دینے کی تلقین کی ہے اور مجھے بھی یقین ہے کہ آپ زیادہ دیر معقولیت کا لباس نہیں پہنیں گی ، اس لئے آپ کو جواب دینا میں مناسب نہیں سمجھتا . . . . . ویسے بھی میں کافروں سے اسلام کے اندرونی معملات پر بات نہیں کرتا

جن لوگوں کو میں نے قوٹ کیا ہے وہ بات کریں گے تو ان کو جواب ضرور دوں گا
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
No, I am not!!!
She is kafir because she does not acknowledge Mutafiq Ahadees! It is not my fatwa at all!
Which hadith Shia hadith or Sunni hadith?

And prove from the Quran where one has to "believe in hadith" ? Just like your imamat and mehndi there is no mention of it either.

You can keep worshipping your 12 demigods and keep calling others kaafirs but facts don't change.

P.S : Dumb fart its he not a she 🙄
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
You are right. There is a lot of misinformation out there. Don't really know which part is in Quran and which part is made up. Can you recommend some authentic Quran translations or tafseer which is uncompromised by mullahs. I will appreciate it alot

Top right, click settings, choose translations, select Saheeh International.
 

There is only 1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Which hadith Shia hadith or Sunni hadith?

And prove from the Quran where one has to "believe in hadith" ? Just like your imamat and mehndi there is no mention of it either.

You can keep worshipping your 12 demigods and keep calling others kaafirs but facts don't change.

P.S : Dumb fart its he not a she 🙄
53:2~4
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What has been explained already in detail brings us to question, why God has created things and particularly human beings? As explained already by me in my various posts, God decided to express himself and he did so in two ways ie through creation and revelation.

1)God gave human beings abilities to understand creation and revelation but he left it entirely up to them to do so. The reason God gave freedom of choice to people and created them knowing nothing at all is so that people self program and find out all by themselves about God and things freely so that they could appreciate God as God wants them to do if they so choose or do their own things and face consequences God alerts or informs them about,

2)God created human beings and gave them a task to complete or set them a goal to achieve for which he put mankind through a constant struggle or hard work. The question is, what is that assignment from God for human beings? It is to turn this world into a paradise for themselves with help and full support of each other according to the guidance provided for them by God himself. Here the first question one has to ask oneself is what the best possible life people can have in this world and how they can bring it about? What is in it for human beings? A great life in this world for human beings as well as a reward for them for doing so in hereafter as well.

3)What is in it for God? Appreciation by human beings as God wanted for himself from human beings due to which he expressed himself and created all things including human beings. This is why human beings think of God as a being full of nothing but goodness through and through. First of all God is appreciated or highly valued or regarded because he has guided humanity towards a great life in this world and once human beings follow that guidance and create that kind of life for themselves they will appreciate God and humanity yet more but things do not end there rather God also will appreciate his human creatures for doing what he wanted them to do. The day all this finally happens humanity will be happy with its God and God will be happy with his human creatures because God and people together will have achieved their intended end goal. This is all what this creation is all about according to the quranic teaching.

4)Now the question, how people are going to do that ie turn this world into a paradise for themselves? They are going to do that by organising and regulating themselves for this assignment given to them by God via the quran. To organise and regulate themselves into a proper human community people need a proper constitution with its proper laws. From where this proper constitution and its proper laws are supposed to come? They will come from the quran itself. How?

Before I explain all that one has to understand what a proper constitution is about and what are proper laws of a constitution about. One has to understand that a constitution starts with aims and objectives. Why? Because aims and objectives decide where a people based upon the constitution are supposed to be heading or trying to reach in their journey or what they are intending or trying to achieve or accomplish by following this constitution.

5)The quran decides aims and objectives of an islamic constitution in this age and it tells people the over all aim or objective set for people is to turn this world into a paradise for themselves for sake of God. The aims or objectives are decided by purpose for which God has revealed the quran or his earlier messages and for which God has created all things including human beings. No other aim or objective can be set in this constitution which could contradict its this main aim and objective.

Since we have the main aim and objective then all other aims and objectives or laws will have to be made consistent with the main aim and objective. This is to ensure that all people who agree with the message in the quran go in the very same direction for accomplishing or fulfilling or reaching the very same goal or the same end or destination. Those who disagree with the message in the quran they can do whatever they like and face the consequences for doing so. Messed up lives in this world are the consequences of doing that as well as they will face strict justice in hereafter as well. This is why people must never even think about inflicting painful suffering upon others for their personal gains at their expense in this life let alone do them as they will end up regretting doing that when they will be made to face the consequences for doing so in hereafter as well. So none is getting away with anything wrong they think or do against anyone or anything.

6)Turning to formation of laws or legislation the question arises, what are guidelines in the quran for making proper laws for the quran based constitution and why are they needed? All one needs to do is pick out all the commandments from the quran which tell its supporters to do all they should and can according to the best of their God given abilities for ensuring well being of humanity as a whole just for sake of God alone without looking for any rewards from each other so that the set aims and objectives could become a reality in the real world. God has already provided us with all things we need for creating the best possible world for ourselves for as long as it will last according to the plan and purpose of God.

Since God has provided us with all we need for the purpose of creating the best possible world therefore ball is in our court to get up and get on with the job for doing what is told or expected of us by God. God has given us all we needed free of charge but only for fulfilling his assigned task or assignment. This is why to mismanage God given things has serious and severe consequences for us human beings as a hugely large human family. We can make lives of each other a paradise with all that as well as we can make lives of each other a living hell in this world. The choice is ours alone to do so and be rewarded or end up in terrible suffering by hands of one another. This is why we humans need to educate ourselves fully about program of God so that we could come together and make this world a paradise for all of us rather than staying ignorant and foolish and doing stupid things to each other whereby we ruin everything for ourselves as a big human family. This is what actual deen of islam is all about and the rest is all false propaganda by slaves of ignorant ruling elite, money lending elite and mullaans ie the religious elite and their touts and followers.

Next, pick out all the commandments of God from the quran which tell people do not do anything to anyone which may bring harm or destruction to them but do so just for sake of God alone and not for profiting from anyone else. Now we have what we can call actual sharia law based upon the quran itself. No need to detail things here as to how many departments we need to make in a governing body nor how many layers of governing body or how office holders are supposed to be selected and elected or appointed by ummah itself etc etc or what are their rights and responsibilities etc etc. They are all easy to work out because they are to be dictated by the needs of a proper human community that comes together or will come together for building such a human society. The basic thing here to realise is that islamic governing or government is not about a few people ruling all other people but about people serving God by fifilling needs of all others to the very best of their God given abilities. It is an opposite way of governing system than those invented and imposed by humans themselves in order to control all the rest by force for their own stupid and anti humanity agendas. Godly system of governing is based upon cooperation of the willing and it is a self regulating system. A system that suits only and only those who are most knowledgeable and most motivated people. This is why people who are ignorant and stubborn or arrogant and haughty can never bring about such an islamic state in the kingdom of God.

The sharia law is all about imposing upon people everything as a duty that helps them move in the direction set by the aims and objectives told in the islamic constitution. Not only that but it is also about stopping people from doing anything that stops or hinders or slows them down from moving in the direction set by the quranic set of aims and objectives. This is how people are suppose to live or abide by shariah law. This has nothing at all to do with mullaans' shariah, which is an absolute disgrace whereby mullaans have got very bad name for actual deen of islam by creating their own version of islam which they call religion of islam whereas islam is not a religion at all as clearly explained by me. As has been explained in detail this is the actual sharia law based properly upon the quranic guidelines and anyone who has knowledge of the quran can confirm by oneself.

Now that we have sharia law the question arises, how can we bring about the kingdom of God? Simply by learning actual message of the quran properly and spreading it worldwide then letting people decide whether they wish to live by rule of law of God as it is told in the quran or do they wish to live by different versions of religion and secularism. However before people make that choice it too is absolutely necessary to explain what different versions of religion and secularism are all about so that people could make real comparison between actual way of life called deen of islam and ways of life based upon idea of a combination of religion and secularism. This should clearly show why deen of islam can completely eradicate poverty and disease and all bad things in proper context of deen of islam but religion and secularism can never do so no matter what. They ( ie religion and secularism) if anything are causes of poverty and diseases and all other kind of problems humanity is living through right now and has been living through ever since it came about.

7)Since I am mainly talking about islam here so it is important that one should come to know what is problem with religion called islam or mullaism. Religion islam is mullaan creation on behest of rulers and money lenders. Why that is the case? It is because according to mullaans' their islam has five main pillars to which all else is secondary, namely belief in parastish or pooja of only one deity, (parastish or pooja or poja or puja is all about rituals performed to show respect to only one deity in religion of islam, in short it is just a way of paying mere lip service to God and doing one's own things ie setting up one's own goals and going after them disregarding God set aims and objectives and laws). The other pillar of islam is called pooja or prayer ie flattering deity and asking for favours of the deity. Yet another pillar is called fasting from dawn till sunset daily for one month in the month of ramadan. Another pillar is called paying 2.5% of one's wealth each year to poor people. Last pillar is about visiting a small building called kaaba in makkah, in saudi arabia.

From these most important things upon which mullaans' islam is based or founded or rests that are called pillars of islam, can anyone see anything that really deals with real world's real problems which humanity faces on daily basis? Absolutely not. So what such a religion can offer humanity so that it could be worth it for them to accept this sort of islam? Absolutely nothing. The other problem is with the mass of literature which mullaans have produced for their blind followers to read through to get hang of what beliefs and the stated rituals are about so that they could perfect them for pleasure of God. All this takes people away from what they are actually supposed to be thinking and doing for putting food on their tables. Sadly this is how almost all muslims normally waste away their lives throughout the muslim world due to their ignorance about actual message in the quran.

Yet mullaans and their blind followers dare claim their islam is the best thing in the world because it has solutions for all human problems. The question is, something that does not even deem the real world important how can it solve problems humanity has if it does not deal with them as something important to begin with? This clearly shows how mullaans' claim about their islam is totally false. Any other religion also has alike problems because religious versions by their very nature do not deal with real world real issues. A clear cut proof against all versions of religion that they are not from one true God rather they are man made things to fool humanity about God and this clearly points to people who have invented and established them ie those who directly benefit from all this carry on ie the foolish and stupid rulers, the money lenders and mullaans or religious leadership or elite.

8)Now that we know what is mainly wrong with all versions of religion ie they do not give priority to life in this world at all let us now turn to different versions of secularism. It is absolutely necessary to do that because secularists also claim they can make human world better. Let us talk about capitalist secularist democrats. Just one question, how can anyone who is a capitalist make this world a better place for humanity when it is all about negative competition or rivalries which creates enemies or animosities not friends or friendships? This is a clear cut way of dividing people and ruling them by fooling them through false hopes and mass propaganda through mass media outlets or media houses. This mass brainwashing work was done through temples and priests in olden times but now media sources are much more in their numbers and they have more tools at their disposals. This is why all politicians and economist lie to people twenty-four seven giving them false hopes for their future due to their own ignorance and foolishness and stupidity. Secularism is nothing more than power struggle between people be it in form of capitalism or communism or for that matter socialism.

In this way of life people just struggle to gain domination over each other to try to reach the top by undermining each other which creates a few billionaires at the expense of all the rest who are dispossessed by this system of competition and governance. Read what I have already explained why or how these people set up charities and pay their taxes etc etc just to buy peace for themselves that is not real. If it was real they will not be wearing bullet proof vests and travelling in bullet proof vehicles with armed body guards. Is anyone really happy in this way of life? No. Many are on various kinds of drugs to avoid depression or to get through their depression if they have fallen into it already. Just as capitalism is merely abusive use of human beings by way of money mechanism, communism is exactly the same but uses position of power for abusive use of weaker members of the society. As for as socialism, it is only a mixture of the two explained whereby people are abusively used by them both ie position of power and money power.

This is how secular ways of life waste so many lives that fail to go up the ladder of what they call success. If we look at the real world situation capitalism and communism have ruined human world throughout the world. So much of the talent human beings are born with to be able to do a lot of good for sake of God is wasted through negative competition that keeps people busy in fighting or keeping them at war with each other all the time anywhere and everywhere throughout the human world. In secularist ideologies there is no incentive for people to do anything for anyone other than one having power or money for oneself in return and that is why these systems are based upon selfishness and greed. Therefore anyone saying so and so is a greedy or selfish person is wrong because it is fault of all people who have invented and imposed or accepted this way of life rather than coming up with something that is actually good for humanity. This is why only and only proper islamic system has a very different base or foundation for humanity to stand upon and look at things from that point of view. If people can die for God or can kill for God as the perception is created by secularists and mullaans alike then why can't they do what God really asks them to do? After all according to religious and secularists God incentive is the best incentive so why it should not work for a true islamic state that is based upon actual deen of islam? lf God and his set out main goal can be the real incentive for mankind then why not adopt the system God has revealed for humanity to govern itself by and take proper advantage of it?

This is why people who willfully live by religion and secularism cannot be Godly people at all but they can only and only pretend to be. This is how religious and secular versions come together to produce and introduce a special kind of God who does not mind people using each other abusively because this God is ever ready for forgiving such people and all people need to do is ask God for forgiveness and all is forgiven. Not only that but there is also a belief about intercession as well by so called Godly people or holy men for the sinners. So one should be able see where all this leads humanity at the end of the day despite all the claims that are made by religious and secular people.

9) Now that we can see how secularists do things ie use three economic models a)capitalism b)communism and c) socialism. Therefore wherever we have these systems they cannot help eliminate poverty like the model given in the quran? Why not? Because they are founded upon the idea of negative competition between people. This is how and why they turn the whole issue into a terrible power struggle or wars for getting power between individuals instead of ensuring well being of all human beings in a sensible way or the way the quran guides. In a capitalist system only and only rich people can dictate things and all the rest have no choice but to obey what is dictated or suffer the consequences. That is because only money talks or dictates things in this system and nothing else so people are forced to go along or stay hungry and naked and open to all kinds of abuses by others.

In a communist system only the people in the position of authority have power according to their ranking and rest must fall in line as dictated because its position of power that talks or dictates things. So if anyone tries to fall out one has to face serious consequences for doing so. The mixed economy system is called socialist system which is a mixture of both capitalist and communist systems so people are abused both ways in this system as a way of life. This is why in these systems only rich get richer or only powerful get more powerful because that is the way all these systems are set up to work till nature strikes and things get out of control of humanity altogether. However none of these systems can stand if masses of people decide to join forces and replace these systems with the one told in the quran. To do so is not that easy as it may seem because getting proper education is not that easy for individuals because it too is very demanding. Not only that but education based revolution by its very nature is a very time consuming one ie look at how long it takes for individuals to become graduates ie nearly two decades. However mean while the systems we have in the world are gradually moving in that direction. So when a tipping point is reached, things will change all of a sudden.

10)All this should clearly explain to people why people like mullaans are employed by all of these secularists to make and keep masses foolish on behalf of capitalists or communists or socialists. This is why mullaans are stooges of rulers and money lenders who for this like reasons as well misinterpret the quran to keep people confused so that secularists could have their way for as long as masses remain foolish or stupid and they keep believing all the rubbish rulers, money lenders and mullaans tell them and their mass media has a huge impact on masses to keep them in the dark due to their own ignorance and foolishness or stupidity.

From all this explanation one should be able to see clearly why one cannot put food on the table merely by living by a version of religion alone and praying to God etc, because God does not throw food for people as individuals from the heavens. This is why religion and secularism work in partnership with each other for using masses abusively by keeping them confused for as long as they can. It is because God has already assigned a goal to accomplish for mankind and he has already given them for it all they needed so what is point of asking God again and again for things which he has already given to people for fulfilling his mission? Religion and secularism are made to appear to be two separate things that are always at the throats of each other but the truth is they are both in bed with each other and I have already clearly explained problems with them else where as well. Mainly they are two sides of the very same coin. Why? Because religions deals with God department through religious leaders whereby people use each other abusively in the name of God and God gets all the blame for their horrible thoughts and actions against each other. Secularism deals with worldly matters through secular leaders ie they set up things for people as to how they should get their food on their tables by controlling their livelihood etc etc.

11)However once true interpretation of the quran shows up and people are educated enough to be able to understand things for themselves then world is going to change for the better all of a sudden. So if masses want a better world for themselves the only way they can get it is by way of studying the quranic way of life properly as well as all other ways of life so that they could see the real difference between deen of islam and all the rest of ways of life so that they could clearly decide which of them is truly good for themselves. The sooner they will do this the sooner this nightmare they are going through will end otherwise it will continue no matter what people do just as it has been going on for so long. Some people have multiple phds but yet they lack real knowledge that is absolutely necessary for them to have. This should also explain why people always talk against the quran and quran based islam and why mullaans have misinterpreted the quran the way they did beside being ignorant. Actual deen of islam as I have explained it here is a very simple and straightforward thing.

In light of what has been explained by me, people can see how good they are in learning things and in looking at things so that they could choose for themselves good aims and objectives to live for and to create appropriates laws to abide by. Running around like headless chickens is no answer to anything at all. If we humans will get anything worth getting it then that can only come through a proper struggle or hard work. Keeping ourselves entertained wrongly will never lead us to a better end merely by chance as it has not in the past. All goals worth achieving are very demanding and need to be taken up as missions to work towards.

If peace, progress and prosperity of humanity is truly our goal and that this goal is truly worth it to be taken up as a mission then what is stopping us from coming together and going for it full speed ahead? This is what actual deen of islam is all about. This way of life called islam is not called islam just for sake of it rather it is a way of life that is capable of leading humanity to a blissful, dignified and secure existence. Having a single world government body is not about having a world government but on what basis is the important things to realise and understand. Multi party democratic systems is a failure in itself because it is used for dividing people instead of getting different opinions to help people unify for a set ultimate aim and objective that ensures well being of humanity as a whole.

So whatever we think and do, aims and objectives for which we do so are of real fundamental or of vital importance or significance. This is what people are not paying their attention to as they are supposed to or ought to. This has to change for the best outcome if there is any to come our way. Otherwise no matter what we think and do is not going to solve our problems but instead will keep on increasing them.
 
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Zeb

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
and who in your opinion is the real Imam Mehdi and when he is supposed to arrive?
pmln voters think nawaz sharif is their mahdi, as to when that bastard will return to lead his disciples, your guess is as good as mine.
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
You people need fire your Mullahs who teach you all sorts of concocted made up nonsense

Surah Najam

2.Your companion [i.e., Muḥammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,

3.Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.

4.It is not but a revelation revealed,

Where in the world did you deduce one has to believe in "mutafiq ahadees" from these verses?

STOP abusing the Quran to make it fit into your twisted magian religion. But then again why would you? You don't even believe this is the complete and unaltered Quran because according to your magian religion the actual original Quran is with your Mehdi who has been hiding in a cave for almost 1500 years! 😳

P.S : You didn't answer which hadees Shia or Sunni?
 

There is only 1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

You people need fire your Mullahs who teach you all sorts of concocted made up nonsense

Surah Najam

2.Your companion [i.e., Muḥammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,

3.Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.

4.It is not but a revelation revealed,

Where in the world did you deduce one has to believe in "mutafiq ahadees" from these verses?

STOP abusing the Quran to make it fit into your twisted magian religion. But then again why would you? You don't even believe this is the complete and unaltered Quran because according to your magian religion the actual original Quran is with your Mehdi who has been hiding in a cave for almost 1500 years! 😳

P.S : You didn't answer which hadees Shia or Sunni?

کافرہ جی ! آپ کے ساتھ کون مغز ماری کرے ؟آپ کو تو معقولیت کی الف بے کا بھی نہیں پتہ

اسی لئے میں آپ کے لئے شی کا صیغہ استعمال کرتا ہوں کہ کسی مرد کے لئے اتنا احمق ہونا ناممکن ہے جتنی آپ ہیں

P.S : You didn't answer which hadees Shia or Sunni?
آپ جس حدیث کا انکار کر کے کافر ہوئی ہیں وہ شیعہ اور سنبی دونوں کے نزدیک درست ہے ، امید ہے اب آپ آئندہ اسلام کے اندرونی معاملات میں دخل نہیں دیں گی

 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
کافرہ جی ! آپ کے ساتھ کون مغز ماری کرے ؟آپ کو تو معقولیت کی الف بے کا بھی نہیں پتہ

اسی لئے میں آپ کے لئے شی کا صیغہ استعمال کرتا ہوں کہ کسی مرد کے لئے اتنا احمق ہونا ناممکن ہے جتنی آپ ہی
Translation=I have no valid argument to refute you so like always I will make up some bullshit excuse and runaway like a scared little girl 😂 😂 😂 😂


آپ جس حدیث کا انکار کر کے کافر ہوئی ہیں وہ شیعہ اور سنبی دونوں کے نزدیک درست ہے ، امید ہے اب آپ آئندہ اسلام کے اندرونی معاملات میں دخل نہیں دیں گی
You failed to prove your stance about belief in hadith. You can't prove the most important pillar of your own religion, the imamat what you will prove anything else but yet carry on slander.

But of course this is the SOP of you worshippers of the 12 demigods magian religion.

P.S : Matric fail bhai agar samaj mein nahi aai to kissi aur sey translation kerwa lena! 😂😂😂😂
 
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