غزوہ ہند شروع ہوگیا مریم صفدر، کشمیر فتح کرنے کے بعد اپنی فوج کے ہمراہ

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Dr Adam

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
ڈاقٹرساب! تم اپنی سیاسی خارش کے جلوے دکھاتے ہوئے کبھی تو شرم وحیا کا لنگھ پکڑ لیا کرو۔۔۔ ویسے تو تم یہاں پر مبلغانہ بھاشن دیتے ہوئے تفخرانہ لڈیاں ڈال رہے ہوتے ہو لیکن تمہے اپنے الفاظ کی ادائیگی میں اتنی بھی تمیز نہیں کہ اسلامی عبارات کے تقدس کا ہی بھرم رکھ لو۔۔۔یُو ِچِیپ فارٹیگر

مجھے خطبہ دینے کی ضرورت نہیں . مجھے اپنی غلطی کا احساس ہوا اور میں نے فورا تصحیح کر لی اور اپنے رب سے اپنی غلطی پر توبہ کا طلب گار ہوا
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

غزوہ گیراج کے بعد اب یہ غزوہ کھوتا ؟؟......... الله خیر کرے

جو بچا تھا وہ لٹانے کے لیے آئے ہیں....... او وی کھوتے تے ؟؟


Dr Sahab, Gazwa us jang koh kahtay hain jis may nabi kareem Salal laho alahay wasalam nay khud Hissa liya ho .
Gazwa garage konsi jang ho gi ? Woh jang jis may maryam nay safdar say sex kera garage may or wahan per prophet Muhammad pbuh bhi mojood thay ?
Gazway Khota konsi jang ho gi ? Woh gadhon ki jang jis may prophet Muhammad pbuh nay Hissa liya hoga? Imran khan ko khush kernay may or maryam ko nangah kernay may kahin aysah hi na ho kay aap apna eeman hi baytch dain .
Apnay akhlaq say giray jokes may Prophet Muhammad pbuh ko please involve nah kijiyay . This is my request to you.
 
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Dr Adam

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Dr Sahab, Gazwa us jang koh kahtay hain jis may nabi kareem Salal laho alahay wasalam nay khud Hissa liya ho .
Gazwa garage konsi jang ho gi ? Woh jang jis may maryam nay safdar say sex kera garage may or wahan per prophet Muhammad pbuh bhi mojood thay ?
Gazway Khota konsi jang ho gi ? Woh gadhon ki jang jis may prophet Muhammad pbuh nay Hissa liya hoga? Imran khan ko khush kernay may or maryam ko nangah kernay may kahin aysah hi na ho kay aap apna eeman hi baytch dain .
Apnay akhlaq say giray jokes may Prophet Muhammad pbuh ko please involve nah kijiyay . This is my request to you.

میں لوگوں کی طرح دلیلیں اور تاویلیں دینے کی کوشش نہیں کروں گا
آپکی راہنمائی کے بعد اپنی غلطی کا احساس مزید شدت سے ہوا . میں نے اپنا پورا کمینٹ ڈیلیٹ کر دیا ہے اور اپنے رب سے اپنی غلطی پر توبہ کا طلب گار ہوں، وہ مجھے اس گناہ کے غیر ارداتاً سرزد ہونے پر معاف فرمائے. آمین . راہنمائی اور احساس دلانے کا دل سے شکریہ آپ بھی میرے حق میں دعا کیجئیے گا . الله آپکو خوش رکھے
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

میں لوگوں کی طرح دلیلیں اور تاویلیں دینے کی کوشش نہیں کروں گا
آپکی راہنمائی کے بعد اپنی غلطی کا احساس مزید شدت سے ہوا . میں نے اپنا پورا کمینٹ ڈیلیٹ کر دیا ہے اور اپنے رب سے اپنی غلطی پر توبہ کا طلب گار ہوں، وہ مجھے اس گناہ کے غیر ارداتاً سرزد ہونے پر معاف فرمائے. آمین . راہنمائی اور احساس دلانے کا دل سے شکریہ آپ بھی میرے حق میں دعا کیجئیے گا . الله آپکو خوش رکھے
Shukriya bohat bohat .
Such poochain toh mujhay aap say yay hi umeed thee. Aap achay aadmi hain . Mujhay andaza tha kay aap is ko delete ker dain gay.
Allah aap koh kamyabi ata keray.
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dr Sahab, Gazwa us jang koh kahtay hain jis may nabi kareem Salal laho alahay wasalam nay khud Hissa liya ho .
Gazwa garage konsi jang ho gi ? Woh jang jis may maryam nay safdar say sex kera garage may or wahan per prophet Muhammad pbuh bhi mojood thay ?
Gazway Khota konsi jang ho gi ? Woh gadhon ki jang jis may prophet Muhammad pbuh nay Hissa liya hoga? Imran khan ko khush kernay may or maryam ko nangah kernay may kahin aysah hi na ho kay aap apna eeman hi baytch dain .
Apnay akhlaq say giray jokes may Prophet Muhammad pbuh ko please involve nah kijiyay . This is my request to you.

Ghazwa means righteous war - Ghazi has the same root. Both of these words are still used for such wars. However I agree that its should not be used for Maryummy Al-Qatri's forays.
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

میں لوگوں کی طرح دلیلیں اور تاویلیں دینے کی کوشش نہیں کروں گا
آپکی راہنمائی کے بعد اپنی غلطی کا احساس مزید شدت سے ہوا . میں نے اپنا پورا کمینٹ ڈیلیٹ کر دیا ہے اور اپنے رب سے اپنی غلطی پر توبہ کا طلب گار ہوں، وہ مجھے اس گناہ کے غیر ارداتاً سرزد ہونے پر معاف فرمائے. آمین . راہنمائی اور احساس دلانے کا دل سے شکریہ آپ بھی میرے حق میں دعا کیجئیے گا . الله آپکو خوش رکھے

Its Ok Dr Sahib. Its good that you deleted the comment as it may have been in bad taste however ghazwa just means a just war in Arabic otherwise why would their be Hadith about ghazwa-e-Hind. The problem with us is the Jahalat and these idiots in their idiocy put you on backfoot as if you committed a crime. You are a good man. Relax !
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ghazwa means righteous war - Ghazi has the same root. Both of these words are still used for such wars. However I agree that its should not be used for Maryummy Al-Qatri's forays.
Aap mujhay sirf aik aysee jang ka naam bata dain joh gazwah kay naam say pahchani jaati ho or us jang may prophet Muhammad pbuh nay hisa naa liya ho
Aap ki definition say to battle of kerbala bhi Ghazwa-e kerbala hoh gi? May nay aaj tak kisi aysee jang ko Gazwa ka naam say nahi suna jis may prophet Muhammad pbuh nay Hissa nah liya hoh .
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Its Ok Dr Sahib. Its good that you deleted the comment as it may have been in bad taste however ghazwa just means a just war in Arabic otherwise why would their be Hadith about ghazwa-e-Hind. The problem with us is the Jahalat and these idiots in their idiocy put you on backfoot as if you committed a crime. You are a good man. Relax !
See Sheikh Imran Hosein explaining what Ghazwa is. you are absolutely wrong about Gazwa.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ghazwa means righteous war - Ghazi has the same root. Both of these words are still used for such wars. However I agree that its should not be used for Maryummy Al-Qatri's forays.


See again the definition of Ghazwa


 
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Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Aap mujhay sirf aik aysee jang ka naam bata dain joh gazwah kay naam say pahchani jaati ho or us jang may prophet Muhammad pbuh nay hisa naa liya ho
Aap ki definition say to battle of kerbala bhi Ghazwa-e kerbala hoh gi? May nay aaj tak kisi aysee jang ko Gazwa ka naam say nahi suna jis may prophet Muhammad pbuh nay Hissa nah liya hoh .

Nhi suna is not enough especially for someone knowledgeable. Tell me the source where The Prophet (saw) or The Quran state the term Ghazwa to imply just the wars that The Prophet (saw) himself participated in ?
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
See again the definition of Ghazwa



The particular meaning may have been ascribed afterwards by people hence the reason I stated that it was in bad taste. However you need to prove according to Islamic teachings from Quran and Sunnah that this word CANNOT be used for other wars.
 

knowledge88

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nhi suna is not enough especially for someone knowledgeable. Tell me the source where The Prophet (saw) or The Quran state the term Ghazwa to imply just the wars that The Prophet (saw) himself participated in ?
Since the battles of prophet Muhammad pbuh the term Ghazwa used for wars in which prophet Muhammad pbuh participated and
siryah was used for Any of the battles in which the Islamic prophet Muhammad personally did not participate but to which he sent Sahabis.
You will find all the Muslims agree on that definition . You can check all the hadees book, no war was mentioned as Ghaswa where prophet Muhammad pbuh did not participated and all the wars in which he participated like Gazwa badar or Gazwa ohad are the ones in which he participated.
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Since the battles of prophet Muhammad pbuh the term Ghazwa used for wars in which prophet Muhammad pbuh participated and
siryah was used for Any of the battles in which the Islamic prophet Muhammad personally did not participate but to which he sent Sahabis.
You will find all the Muslims agree on that definition . You can check all the hadees book, no war was mentioned as Ghaswa where prophet Muhammad pbuh did not participated and all the wars in which he participated like Gazwa badar or Gazwa ohad are the ones in which he participated.

Right Ok then its very easy. Go and get me actual quotations from Hadith in Arabic (not urdu) where such a distinction is maintained and I will render my apology.