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[jani1]

nope, women initiate most divorces because most of the times men get much more out of marriage than women do. They are just rising now because the taboo around divorce has decreased and also women have more economic independence.

شادی کے تھمبو سے ٹبو تک کہانی کو کون لایا۔۔۔شاید یہی لبڑل آنٹیاں۔۔خیر۔۔
تاریخ گواہ ہے کہ۔۔ معاشی خودمختاری پر بدمعاشی کرنے والوں کے ساتھ کچھ اچھا نہیں ہوتا۔۔
کہ زمانے میں اور بھی غم ہیں۔۔ معاش کے سوا۔۔

 

[jani1]

اور بالآخر ایک ایسی اسٹیج آتی ہے جب مرد اس سے چھٹکارا لے لیتا ہے
اور ایک اور عورت کی تلاش میں نکل پڑتا ہے اس امید کے ساتھ کے وہ ان تمام جذبات سے اور عا دات سے پاک ہو گی جو عورت سے زیادہ انسان ہونے پر ا س کا حق بھی ہیں.،او ر اسے دوبارہ سے ویسی ہی صورتحال سے واسطہ پڑنا ہے تو بہتر نہیں جہاں ہے وہیں رہے اور دوسرے کی آنا کو توڑنے کی فضول کوشش کی بجائے اپنی غیر ضروری آنا پر نظر ثانی کرے ؟ کیونکہ زندگی صرف عورت اور مرد کی آنا کی جنگ نہیں ہوتی اس میں بہت سارے فریق ایسے بھی متاثر ہوتے ہیں جن کی ذمہ داری ان دونوں پر ہوتی ہے اور ان کے فیصلوں اور حرکتوں سے ان پر پڑنے والے اثرات کا ازالہ ممکن نہیں ہوتا
عورت ہو یا مرد کسی کو حق نہیں دوسرے سے آنا کے سرینڈر کا مطالبہ کرے باہمی عزت ہی بہترین حل ہے

بالکل جی۔۔۔مگر میری یہ چار دھائیاں مجھے یہ سکھا گئیں ۔۔کہ جب بھی کسی خاتون نے شوہر کو ذلیل کیا۔۔ زمانے اور بچوں کے سامنے۔۔۔۔ اس کے آخری دن کچھ اچھے نہیں گزرے۔۔

جہاں تک جھوٹی انا کی بات ہے۔۔۔ وہ صرف شیطان کو خوش کرنا ہوتا ہے۔۔اس سے بچنا چاہیے​

 

[Humi]

شادی کے تھمبو سے ٹبو تک کہانی کو کون لایا۔۔۔شاید یہی لبڑل آنٹیاں۔۔خیر۔۔
تاریخ گواہ ہے کہ۔۔ معاشی خودمختاری پر بدمعاشی کرنے والوں کے ساتھ کچھ اچھا نہیں ہوتا۔۔
کہ زمانے میں اور بھی غم ہیں۔۔ معاش کے سوا۔۔

I am not sure why you think that argument has a leg to stand on to begin with in the light of female economic independence since the beginning of time it is men who have had this economic independence and have done this "badmaashi" as you put it due to weaponizing the financial independence to exert power and control over their households and those who dont earn. According to your argument, if that is logical, then men are paying for the "badmaashi" they have exerted since the dawn of time due to having money and no one is willing to put up it with it any longer because they are not reliant on that money anymore.

 

[Humi]

بالکل جی۔۔۔مگر میری یہ چار دھائیاں مجھے یہ سکھا گئیں ۔۔کہ جب بھی کسی خاتون نے شوہر کو ذلیل کیا۔۔ زمانے اور بچوں کے سامنے۔۔۔۔ اس کے آخری دن کچھ اچھے نہیں گزرے۔۔

جہاں تک جھوٹی انا کی بات ہے۔۔۔ وہ صرف شیطان کو خوش کرنا ہوتا ہے۔۔اس سے بچنا چاہیے​

Khud ko behlanay key liyay yeh khyal bhi accha hai. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that it is the most vulnerable, the most loving and most poor people in the world who suffer the most especially in their end. So many people have done amazing things for their families their whole lives and they were simply not reciprocated. Some of the most neglected parents are those who tried their best to look after their children. Most people who do bad things get away with it. That is just how the world works. It is usually the good who suffer unfortunately. There is no such thing as bad behaviour meaning bad things coming to you and good behaviour bringing good things to you in life for most people. Instant karma just isn't here for most people.

 

[jani1]

I am not sure why you think that argument has a leg to stand on to begin with in the light of female economic independence since the beginning of time it is men who have had this economic independence and have done this "badmaashi" as you put it due to weaponizing the financial independence to exert power and control over their households and those who dont earn. According to your argument, if that is logical, then men are paying for the "badmaashi" they have exerted since the dawn of time due to having money and no one is willing to put up it with it any longer because they are not reliant on that money anymore.

ہاہاہا۔۔۔آپ تو کچھ زیادہ ہی سیریس لے گئیں۔۔۔
بحرحال۔۔۔معاشی و بدمعاشی کے اس کھیل میں جیتتا وہی ہے ۔۔ جسےاس میں بیلنس قائم رکھنے کا فن آتا ہو۔۔
ورنہ تو سب کچھ ڈبو دیتا ہے۔۔۔یا دیتی ہے۔۔۔​

 

[jani1]

Khud ko behlanay key liyay yeh khyal bhi accha hai. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that it is the most vulnerable, the most loving and most poor people in the world who suffer the most especially in their end. So many people have done amazing things for their families their whole lives and they were simply not reciprocated. Some of the most neglected parents are those who tried their best to look after their children. Most people who do bad things get away with it. That is just how the world works. It is usually the good who suffer unfortunately. There is no such thing as bad behaviour meaning bad things coming to you and good behaviour bringing good things to you in life for most people. Instant karma just isn't here for most people.

نہیں جی۔۔۔ایسی بات نہیں ہے۔۔۔تھوڑی دیر سے ہی سہی۔۔مگر برے کا برا اور اچھے کا اچھا انجام ہوتا ہے۔۔
اور اسی دنیا میں ہوتا ہے۔۔میں کئ مثالیں دے سکتا ہوں۔۔​

 

[cestmoi ✅️]

I am not sure why you think that argument has a leg to stand on to begin with in the light of female economic independence since the beginning of time it is men who have had this economic independence and have done this "badmaashi" as you put it due to weaponizing the financial independence to exert power and control over their households and those who dont earn. According to your argument, if that is logical, then men are paying for the "badmaashi" they have exerted since the dawn of time due to having money and no one is willing to put up it with it any longer because they are not reliant on that money anymore.

Right...at least men still wanted to stay with women. Now that women have that financial power as well and have that 'badmashi', they don't even wanna see any man around them. They like dog/cat better than a man ?

 

[Humi]

نہیں جی۔۔۔ایسی بات نہیں ہے۔۔۔تھوڑی دیر سے ہی سہی۔۔مگر برے کا برا اور اچھے کا اچھا انجام ہوتا ہے۔۔
اور اسی دنیا میں ہوتا ہے۔۔میں کئ مثالیں دے سکتا ہوں۔۔​

well there are examples of people paying for their bad deeds and there are also many examples of people escaping them. my point is that bad deeds and bad results do not necessarily have a strong correlation in many cases.

 

[Humi]

Right...at least men still wanted to stay with women. Now that women have that financial power as well and have that 'badmashi', they don't even wanna see any man around them. They like dog/cat better than a man ?

I think perhaps a better question is why would there be more and longer lasting marriages if one party is economically dependent on the other. If the success of a marriage is dependent on economic dependence, then perhaps we have not been doing marriages in a healthy manner.

 

[cestmoi ✅️]

I think perhaps a better question is why would there be more and longer lasting marriages if one party is economically dependent on the other. If the success of a marriage is dependent on economic dependence, then perhaps we have not been doing marriages in a healthy manner.

The answer is very simple. Men need women more than women need men. It's natural and biological. It's also human nature that financial/economic independence makes us give less and less damn about others. In other words, less understanding and less 'compromising'. No human is perfect and no 2 humans are 100% 'compatible'. Marriage requires some level of understanding and some compromises on each other's shortcomings. Most women who become financially independent really have no incentive/interest to be with a man long term. They can 'survive' better than a financially independent man without a woman.

 

[jani1]

Right...at least men still wanted to stay with women. Now that women have that financial power as well and have that 'badmashi', they don't even wanna see any man around them. They like dog/cat better than a man ?

I think perhaps a better question is why would there be more and longer lasting marriages if one party is economically dependent on the other. If the success of a marriage is dependent on economic dependence, then perhaps we have not been doing marriages in a healthy manner.

 

[cestmoi ✅️]

That's domestic violence ?

 

[jani1]

That's domestic violence ?

نہیں۔۔۔
یہ جائز ہے۔۔۔

 

[cestmoi ✅️]

نہیں۔۔۔
یہ جائز ہے۔۔۔

Duh! You are so right!

 

[jani1]

Duh! You are so right!

یہ جائز ہے۔۔۔
کیپٹن صفدر نما شوہرو کے لیے۔۔جن کی معیشت اپنی عورت سے کمزور ہو

 

[shami11]

جانی بھائی ٠ پھر ہماری تمہاری کہانی ایک جیسی ہے

اس دلدل میں تو کب کا ہمیں اتارا گیا ہے۔۔۔☺۔
۔شامی بھائ۔۔اپنی سناو۔۔

 

[jani1]

جانی بھائی ٠ پھر ہماری تمہاری کہانی ایک جیسی ہے

وہ بھی درد بھری۔۔۔?۔

 

[sensible]

بالکل جی۔۔۔مگر میری یہ چار دھائیاں مجھے یہ سکھا گئیں ۔۔کہ جب بھی کسی خاتون نے شوہر کو ذلیل کیا۔۔ زمانے اور بچوں کے سامنے۔۔۔۔ اس کے آخری دن کچھ اچھے نہیں گزرے۔۔

جہاں تک جھوٹی انا کی بات ہے۔۔۔ وہ صرف شیطان کو خوش کرنا ہوتا ہے۔۔اس سے بچنا چاہیے​

ایک دوسرے کو ذلیل کرنے والے جوڑے میں سے دونوں کے آخری دن برے گزرتے ہیں