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    CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi




    These are difficult times for professional journalists in Pakistan. Eleven were killed last year in the line of duty. They were either caught in the crossfire of ethnic or extremist violence or targeted and eliminated by state and non-state groups for their political views.

    Saleem Shehzad, for example, was abducted, tortured and killed last year and a commission of inquiry is still floundering in murky waters. He had exposed the infiltration of the armed forces by elements affiliated with Al-Qaeda or the Taliban. Several journalists from Balochistan have been killed by non-state vigilantes sponsored by state agencies, others have fled to Europe or USA because they had sympathies with the nationalist cause in the province. Some from Karachi have taken refuge abroad because they were threatened by ethnic or sectarian groups or parties.

    Now an insidious campaign is afoot to target senior journalists who question the wisdom of the security establishment on a host of thorny issues. They are being labeled as "American-CIA agents". This is an incitement to violence against them in the highly charged anti-American environment in Pakistan today. Consider.

    If you say the military's notion of "strategic depth" in Afghanistan is misplaced, outdated or counter-productive, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say the military was either complicit or incompetent in the OBL-Abbottabad case, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that the civilians should have control over the military as stipulated in the constitution, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that the military shouldn't enter into peace deals with the Taliban that enable them to reorganize and seize Pakistani territory, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that the drones have taken a welcome toll of extremist Al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that the military's annual defense budget, which amounts to nearly half of all tax revenues, should be scrutinized by parliament or the Auditor General of Pakistan, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that the one and same resignation criterion should be applied to both Ambassador Husain Haqqani and DG-ISI Ahmed Shuja Pasha - the former is accused of trying to influence the American government to back up the civilian government of Pakistan in its attempt to establish civilian control over its army and the latter is accused of seeking the support of Arab regimes for the overthrow of the civilian regime ( both accusations come from one and the same individual) - you are a CIA agent.

    If you say we should construct a social welfare state in place of a national security state, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that fundamental citizens rights enshrined in the constitution cannot be violated at the altar of a narrow definition of national security defined exclusively by the security state, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that human rights violations in Balochistan carried out by the security agencies are as condemnable as the ethnic cleansing of Punjabi settlers by Baloch insurgents, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that Pakistan's foreign policy should not be the exclusive domain of the military establishment, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that the Pakistan military's conventional and nuclear weapons doctrine amounts to a crippling arms race with India rather than a minimal optimal defensive deterrence, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that the ISI is an unaccountable state within a state, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that belt-tightening measures to control budgetary deficits and inflation should apply to wasteful aspects of defense expenditures no less than to wasteful aspects of civilian government expenditures, you are a CIA agent.

    If you say that the Supreme Court should pull out Air Marshal Asghar Khan's ISI-Mehrangate 1991 case from cold storage and adjudge it along with the Memogate 2011 case, you are a CIA agent.

    The irony is that the Pakistan military remains the single largest recipient of American aid in the last sixty five years. The irony is that all military coups in Pakistan have drawn legal and political sustenance from America. The irony is that the Pakistani military has signed more defense pacts and agreements with America than all civilian governments to date. The irony is the Pakistan military has partnered America in Afghanistan in the 1980s, fought its war on terror and leased out Pakistani air bases and Pakistan air space corridors to America in the 2000s, and sent hundreds of officers for training and education to America in the last six decades.

    The greater irony is that all those liberal, progressive, anti-imperialist Pakistani citizens who have opposed US hegemony and protested American military interventions in the Third World all their lives are today branded as CIA agents by the very state security agencies and non state religious parties and jehadi groups who have taken American money and weapons and done America's bidding all their lives.

    http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta2/...0120106&page=1



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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    But ofcourse....Najam Sethi is also a CIA agent right?


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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Quote Originally Posted by awan4ever View Post
    But ofcourse....Najam Sethi is also a CIA agent right?

    No, perhaps he's RAW agent... egging on row between CIA & ISI...
    Last edited by indigo; 06-Jan-2012 at 05:24 PM.

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    ​najam sethi is agent 1 million time correct...............

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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Civil Govt jab chor daku ho to military he sab kuch kary ge,,,, aur kya white house chalaye ga pakistan kya??

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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    cha gaya najam sethi...

    Sethi sahab, aap to phir baday aadmi hain..kal is forum pay mujhay bhi CIA agent kaha gaya..

    the logic is

    "if I cannot prove you wrong, you are a CIA agent"

    The irony is

    "most actual CIA agents are buddies of our "agents"


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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Can Mr. Sethi explain how her daughter got job in 'Wall Street Journal" and what was the major assignment given to her?? Her article against Pak Army can also be read at siasat.pk (as copied from WSJ).... Why Mr. Sethi by himself doesn't miss any chance to speak against Pak Army or ISI? Now perhaps he's started smelling the s**t created by him and the alikes that's why he started to making hue and cry...

    It's open secret that Mr. Sethi is working on a black agenda.... I'll go a bit further and ask Geo.tv to ban thus rascal for good otherwise people have also started thinking that Geo.tv has also a hidden agenda... If danger pointed out by Mr. Sethi is true then I would only say why did it take so long??

    'Zubaan-e-Khalq' n never be wrong... so if agencies are thinking the same way... it's 100% correct... so my message to Mr. Sethi is that it's time for Mr. Sethi to get lost from Pakistan for good... Nobody wants to listen his cunning analyses here... we hate you, your thoughts, your afilliations and even your cunning face... listen the bell and just get lost....
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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Beware of the following foreign agents in the media:

    Media:
    1) Najam Sethi
    2) Sana Bucha
    3) Shahzaib Khanzada
    4) Itheshan Ameerudin
    and many more

    Journalists:
    1) Ayaz Amir
    2) Nazeer Naji
    and many more


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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    He always try to promote american agenda but I don't think he is an agent of CIA. Yes, he try his best to promote american agenda may he has some stakes. All his analysis have done wrong. All his analysis and advices proven to be wrong. I can challenge that for last 6 months he has proven to wrong on numerous issues.

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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    If you do all these on the orders of Foreign agencies then yes you are Foreign agent among us....


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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Quote Originally Posted by lovely_pk View Post
    If you do all these on the orders of Foreign agencies then yes you are Foreign agent among us....
    And if you do them on your own?


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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Great article. Nobody has an answer.


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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Quote Originally Posted by awan4ever View Post
    And if you do them on your own?
    For Najam Sethi...It is established without any doubt that he is foreign agent.....

    For awan4ever: EMPLOYED BY: CIA/RAW/MOSSAD.

    Patroitic Pakistani will never consider to defame Pakistan Army at this critical history time of Pakistan.

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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Thats true. Najam sethi is an american agent who have actually sold the dignity of Pakistan. He insults Pakistan and Pakistan's founder Quaid-e-azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah to get dollars, he is a well known american-puppy-dog so don't waste your precious time listening to this traitor najam sethi as he is a part of this corrupt system, dont give him any importance. Just change the channel whenever this american-puppy-dog najam sethi appears on a tv channel. they are the examples of yellow journalism in pakistan. They can sell every inch of Pakistan to make their aaqa (america) happy. Najam sethi is running an NGO in Lahore which is sponsored by India and America because of its Anti Pakistan ideology. Najam sethi blatantly criticizes the fundamentals of Islam and is very fond of dogs. Just Like zardari, Najam sethi is a big shi* for pakistanis. Just Kick "Najam Sethi" out from Pakistan as soon as possible and send him back to America where he belongs.
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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    no doubt NAjam is CIA agent


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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi



    Without realizing everyone here is just validating what 'CIA Agent' Najam Sethi wrote in his column!!



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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Half of the people in Pakistan are some sort of agents

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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    سارے سونے کے پجاری سی ائی ایجنٹ ہیں کوئی فرق نہیں پڑتا وہ کس پارٹی جماعت یا ارکنیزیش سے ہوں- صرف وہ نہیں جو غریب عوام اور الله کی خاطر اور بھلائی کے لئے سب کچھ کرتے ہیں- کسی خاص شخص پر ایسا الزام لگانا اگر صرف اپنی مفاد کی وجھ سے ہے تو وہ غلط ہے- جس کو جس شخص پر اعترضات ہوں وہ عدالت میں پیش کردیں اور عدالت کے فیصلے کو دیکھ کر ہمیں بھی اندازہ ہوگا- نجم سیٹھی میرے پسندیدہ شخص نہیں کیونکہ ڈرپوک اور مفاد پرست ہیں الٹے کام بھی کرسکتا ہے طاقتور کا ساتھ دیکر


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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    NAJAM SETHI has pointed out hypocrisy in our society which is also cause of our decline

    same thing done by politicians ,criticize them, abuse them, even target their mothers and sisters no worry
    same thing done by ARMY "hum shah say ziada shah kay wafadar bun jatay hain" aur start defending them even without investigating

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    Re: CIA agents in Pakistan - Najam Sethi

    Pakistani Logic 2012

    "Jo meri tarah nahi sochta ya meri baat mein haan mein haan nahi milata woh CIA agent hay "


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