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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    Only Danda System is the Best Solution for Pakistan. Sub corrupt politicians ko sare aam latka dena chayye, sabse se pahele zardari ko aur mian bratheran ko.

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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    Presedential Syestem works on those countries where POLARISATION is less like America, France, but where polarisation is HIGH like Pakistan, India, UK, there parlimentary syestem works.........we have tried this before and result was Bangladesh.........lols
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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    Originally Posted by mehwish_ali
    راز بھائی، خدا کا واسطہ ہے اس ایم کیو ایم فوبیا و بغض و عناد سے باہر آئیے۔

    Kia kabhee yeh baat aap nay mqm waloon(apni mqm) say bhee kahee hay?
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    I am Agree with this system. Yes it,s need of Pakistan....................thumbs up for this Thread
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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    I totally agree
    presidential system is a much better system

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    @mehwish_ali

    Sorry, I have not read the whole post but I have explored the option in my college days and my findings can be summarised if you understand that "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". There are more chances that a single person don't listen to it's people then a 340 odd parliamentarians. There are flaws in both systems and Israel has a slight better system as they approach people to vote on every major issue but they are a small country and logistics and resources will make it difficult for Pakistan to adopt it. Therefore I think parliamentary system is better as you have to be inclusive and work together. Saying that you need to have good people otherwise it will be like whatever brand of mince machine you use but keep feeding cheechray and expect an expensive machine to give you rookha qeema then it will never happen.
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    V good topic , and if its been written by her than certainly a v good effort ..

    i would have love to respond on this topic , but again .... example of iran... .. i hate iran .... why cant u give an indigenous example of Ayub Khan Era :-) , lolzzz ,

    why so much love for Iran ...

    Irani cum-pakis , ko self-sharam aani chahye mulki debates me bar bar iran ka zikr kerte hoe
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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    کیا قوم نے کبھی سوچا :۔

    کیوں عمران خان کو وہی پرانے کرپٹ جعلی ڈگریوں والے وڈیروں اور زمینداروں کو اپنی پارٹی میں شامل کرنا پڑ رہا ہے؟

    اس میں عمران خان کا قصور کم اور ہمارے "پارلیمانی" سسٹم کا قصور زیادہ ہے۔

    مشرف صاحب کو بھی اسی وجہ سے "قاف" لیگ کے لوٹوں پر انحصار کرنا پڑا تھا۔


    اگر قوم چاہتی ہے کہ ہمارے لیڈران اس فتنے سے بچیں تو انہیں بہت سنجیدگی سے ملک خداداد پاکستان کے لیے "صدارتی جمہوری نظام" کی سٹڈی کرنا ہو گی۔

    صدارتی جمہوری نظام وہ واحد آپشن ہے جو کہ پاکستان کو ان وڈیروں کی سیاست سے نجات دلا سکتا ہے۔


    اس لیے تمام محبانِ وطن کو دعوت ہے کہ وہ اس کیس کی سٹڈی کریں اور اپنی آراء سے آگاہ فرمائیں۔


    میری پیاری محوش بی بی

    ہم نے سونچا اور سمجھا - اول تو یہ کہ آج تم کافی بور ہو رہی ہو اسی لیے یہ لکھا ورنہ تم تو عموما سیاسی باتیں لکھتی ہو یا پھر الطاف بھی کا حکم ہوگا یہ شوشہ چھوڑنے کا




    ویسے محوش استغفراللہ


    ضرورت پڑنے پڑ تم نے پھر مغرب کا رخ کیا - کیا ہی اچھا ہوتآ کہ قران و سنت کا رخ کرتیں
    ایک صیہونی جمہوریت کو چھوڑ کر دوسری صیہونی جمہوریت میں چلے جائیں ؟

    This parliamentary democracy is nothing but a dhoka brought about by Free Masons in 1750's. Before this Kings/Queens of English were very brutal in running country. corruptions, crimes, were common. Country of jamhooriat ka gahwara (England) have dark history of torture and extra judicial killings of innocent peasants. They used to put opponents on stretchers - stretch wrists ankles apart - on a barrel. Kings/Queens used to impose taxes at their will, no Lords were consulted. They got richer and richer

    The definition of masonic jamhooriat is that create two groups of people - public and govt - let th epublic indulge in any kind social ills - awarfgi, fohashi, liquor, hara mi bahcey, illicit sex, common in law living, leat marriages and more divorces, let womn become victim of capitalism - as long as they keep paying taxes, all is good.

    Govt rules and public is left as khula ku tta and bakri - do what ever you want but dont forget to vote and pay taxes.


    presidential system is failing as it is evident from the US. More and more unemployment, debt increasing jobs disappearing, you name it they got.


    What we need is a party less systems where party of few does not dictate to the other half. We need to implement True Democracy also known as Khilafat and we can name it, for example, Khilafat-asliyah (خلافت اصلیہ) or any other name that people agree upon.







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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by sadani View Post
    V good topic , and if its been written by her than certainly a v good effort ..

    i would have love to respond on this topic , but again .... example of iran... .. i hate iran .... why cant u give an indigenous example of Ayub Khan Era :-) , lolzzz ,

    میں نے ایوب خان کا دور دیکھا ہے اور نہ اس پر پڑھنے کے لیے کوئی اچھا مواد میسر آیا ہے۔

    اس لیے اگر آپ کی ایوب خان زمانے کے متعلق سٹڈی ہے، تو ہم سے شیئر فرمائیے۔
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    ایوب خان پر گفتگو کرتے وقت ایک بات یاد رکھئیے گا کہ ایوب کا دور ہرگز ہرگز "جمہوری صدارتی دور" نہیں تھا، بلکہ ایک ڈکٹیٹر کا دور تھا اور اُس دور میں میڈیا ہرگز آزاد نہیں تھا۔

    اس لیے مجھے نہیں لگتا کہ ایوب خان کے دور کی سٹڈی کوئی فائدہ دے سکتی ہے۔
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    ایسا کوئی سسٹم بتاو کہ صدر اور کابینہ لندن میں بیٹھ کر پاکستان حکومت کر سکے !!!
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    Its very nice discussion I think we should not involved in personnel hates & love its for betterment to all of us & posibly our future coming kids,if we success full in evolving a good system possibly this type of failures what is obvious we could avoid.
    We do have high class degree of lota cracy possibly every party involved in it except MQM,Jamat islami,I am supporter of Mush but he also indulge in same thing I must admit,rest you can see PMLL_n,PPP,PTI all are PhD in it.
    Other main rather almost poisnous issue is provincialism,ethnic &linguistic division I believe non true patrioratic Pakistani will disagree to curb this issue its high time we must act fast we should create mutiple autonomous province or states on pure adminstrative basis for benefit of people in that area,if any unit lagging behind fedration should give extra support for initial standing,all these will foget azad greater balochistan or etc every one will care their own area development &welfare.
    Frequent referendum on major issues if dispute b/w parliment & president may be a choice to keep check & balance to President.
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    How to convert Presidential system in Khilafah!

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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by IhsanIlahi View Post
    ye kaki to mqm wali nikli,,, bhai log hain yar,,,, hadd-e-adab
    Bhai aap ko aaj pata chala hai?
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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

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    How the Khaleeea and others will be elected , or they will be selected by America and CIA. as in Saudia...???
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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by atensari View Post
    How to convert Presidential system in Khilafah!
    Just call him Ameer ul Momaneen , just like Mulla Umer.

    Dont call him Mulla...looks bad , now he is Ameer ul momaneen. sitting in Pakistan.
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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    for Initiator. One who isn't discussing this topic seriously should be sued in the apex court with treason charges as s/he is trying to play with the future course of form of Government kiddin ---, but please be serious all of you including me. It should be discussed in a light way but not in cheap way by pointing fingers on anyone.
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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Raaz View Post
    How the Khaleeea and others will be elected , or they will be selected by America and CIA. as in Saudia...???
    The Khaleefah will be selected by the Council of Ummah.
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    Re: Presidential System: The only solution for Pakistan

    100% agreed ...
    direct presidential elections ......... people like Imran would be choosen ......
    People in parliment would only do legislation ..... they should not be given ministeries .......
    Ministry is given at the sole discretion of President to technocrates ...... railway par Mechanical engineer/business administrator lagao .... na kay bilor cinema wala ..... type

    Good suggestion ........
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