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    Agar ese tarha pakistan main saza pay amal daramad karwaya jay tu firqa wariyat ka khatma mumkin hai...


    shia rehnuma bhi kasam kha k keh raha hai k gustakh-e-sahaba rz kafir murtid hai or yeh bhi kasam khaee esnay k yeh taqyya nahi karraha




    tu humara mutalba hai k pakistan main bhi saza pay amal daramad kia jay ta k shia sunni sunni maslay ka khatma ho sakay
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    Quote Originally Posted by w-a-n-t-e-d- View Post
    Agar ese tarha pakistan main saza pay amal daramad karwaya jay tu firqa wariyat ka khatma mumkin hai...


    shia rehnuma bhi kasam kha k keh raha hai k gustakh-e-sahaba rz kafir murtid hai or yeh bhi kasam khaee esnay k yeh taqyya nahi karraha

    tu humara mutalba hai k pakistan main bhi saza pay amal daramad kia jay ta k shia sunni sunni maslay ka khatma ho sakay
    pakistan main agar namos-e-sahba kaa bhee qanoon bun jai tu yee masla hall hoo jai, balky yee kanoon bhee bana chahy k firqy ki bunyad per nafrat wali speaches karna. kufar k fatway lagana es per bhee baandi hoo.

    magar Ulmma ny proper tahreek nahi chali mill kar k goverment koo push kareen k woo namos-e-sahba kaa qanoon baneen.

    balky jahil or ciminal minded mullaon ny mafia gangs ki trah mazhab k naam per gangs bana kar ek dosry per humly shroo kar deyee jis say masla hall hony ki bajai mazeed uljh gia. or ajj yee hall hai k freqy ki bunyad per itni nafrat bhail chuki hai k 2 es agg main koi bhee mahfooz nahi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by freshnkool View Post
    pakistan main agar namos-e-sahba kaa bhee qanoon bun jai tu yee masla hall hoo jai, balky yee kanoon bhee bana chahy k firqy ki bunyad per nafrat wali speaches karna. kufar k fatway lagana es per bhee baandi hoo.

    magar Ulmma ny proper tahreek nahi chali mill kar k goverment koo push kareen k woo namos-e-sahba kaa qanoon baneen.

    balky jahil or ciminal minded mullaon ny mafia gangs ki trah mazhab k naam per gangs bana kar ek dosry per humly shroo kar deyee jis say masla hall hony ki bajai mazeed uljh gia. or ajj yee hall hai k freqy ki bunyad per itni nafrat bhail chuki hai k 2 es agg main koi bhee mahfooz nahi.
    ji bhai hum bhi yehi kehty hain k jo mushtarika kameeti govt.. nay banaee thi abdul sattar neyazi ki sarbarahi main os k bad dr israr ki sarbarahi main
    in kameeti main tamam makatib-e-fikar k rehnuma thay or jo sifarishaat in sab nay mil k tay ki or sab os pay mutafiq hoay osko pakistan k law main shamil kia
    jay...... we hope k masail khatam karny main 80% madad milaygi

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    Quote Originally Posted by w-a-n-t-e-d- View Post
    ji bhai hum bhi yehi kehty hain k jo mushtarika kameeti govt.. nay banaee thi abdul sattar neyazi ki sarbarahi main os k bad dr israr ki sarbarahi main
    in kameeti main tamam makatib-e-fikar k rehnuma thay or jo sifarishaat in sab nay mil k tay ki or sab os pay mutafiq hoay osko pakistan k law main shamil kia
    jay...... we hope k masail khatam karny main 80% madad milaygi
    yee tu achi baat hai k woo safrishat bun gain. magar agar umary ullmah apas main larny or ek dosry koo katal karny per jitna zoor lagaty hain ajkal uska adha zoor tahreek chala kar lagain or goverment koo preasurize kreen tu abb tuk woo law kaa hisa bun chuka hota.

    pakistani goverment say baat bhee zoor laga kar manwai jati hai asani say ani manty.


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    Re: TOHEEN e SAHABA par australian ko Saudia mai SAZA

    Pakistan main bhi aisa Qanoon ban jaye to ikhtalafat aur larai khatam ho sakti hai.

    Magar halat yeh hai k security deh kar multan k aur Jhang k jalooson main es saal bhi Sahaba R.A ki shan main gustakhiyan ke gaye hain, to phir larai to ho gee.

    Ab to Shia bhi Kal tak program main es baat ko maan chuka hai k Sahaba R.A ka gustakh murtad hai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshnkool View Post
    yee tu achi baat hai k woo safrishat bun gain. magar agar umary ullmah apas main larny or ek dosry koo katal karny per jitna zoor lagaty hain ajkal uska adha zoor tahreek chala kar lagain or goverment koo preasurize kreen tu abb tuk woo law kaa hisa bun chuka hota.

    pakistani goverment say baat bhee zoor laga kar manwai jati hai asani say ani manty.

    bhai zabardasti ulema ko blame nahi do na yeh kameeti ulema k israr pay banni pakistan main shia sunni masajid imam baro pay attack k bad bani
    or Govt..... nay khodh banaee govt... nay jisko bhi kameeti ka sarbarah banaya humnay osko qubool kia .....

    jab ek mushtarika faysla sab nay kar leya tu govt... nay nafiz nahi kia un fayslo ko tu sabit hota hai k yeh sarkari sazishhayin hoti hain...sarkari shararat hoti hai
    yeh siasat dano nay masail ko uljha k rakha hoa hai .....

    in kameeti k elawa ex chife justice of pakistan syed sajjad ali shah sahab ka sumoto or shia sunni adalat main debate ka faysla bhi govt... or siasat dano
    nay rukwaya tha ..... agar wo case reopen kia jay or faysla ho oska tu bhi bohat madad milaygi masail k khatmy k leyh .....


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    Such a legislation needs to be passed in Malaysia, Indonesia, which these covert shias are stopping them from passing it. Regarding shia practice of tabarrah[cursing of Sahabas[R.A.]] are'nt the only practices in shiism that are desiigned to breed hatred against mainstream muslims there are other duas, and acts as well including in Ashura where tey are made to swear to stand against their "enemies", that are'nt non,-muslims, but mainstream muslims, that is why they advocate conversions thru any means possible just to weaken Islam, and these acts to target Sahabas[R.A] are actually against our way of;life, our religion, our practices just to foment hatred against muslims and regard them as non-muslim. That shia allama was doing taqiyyah, in order to protect the basic tenets of their faith, there is a member mehwish_ali, all these shias are on a publicity blitz, including these julooos dhol tamasha where they practice tabarrah in public and this is also a show of power with their numbers and to let them continue their hate beliefs in Pakistan, there won't be any opposition by any shia publicly, that is how unusual and creepy their faith is, they themselves know that their faith is manufactured in a way to breed hatred against mainstream sunni muslims, that is why they can't stand them wherever they have power lke in Iraq, Iran, Azerbaijan.For shias sunni islam needs to be wiped out from the face of the earth, that is why shias whoever they are Pakistani or not, are supportive of the restrictions against sunni muslims practices, and Iran's agents in Pakistan like member mehwish_ali are stupid enuff to present a falsehoods regarding Iran where shias are doing namaz behind sunni imams, LOLz[how many shias in Pakistan perform namaz behind sunni imams,] and sunnis who are not allowed to build their own mosques practice behind shia imams, and do tabarrah and other vile acts. I doubt such a legislation will ever be promulgated in Pakistan.
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    Those Munafiq Ulema regardless of being suni or shia should be thrown as a garbage, they gave nothing to muslims just sectarianism, voilence. We muslims should take islam into our own hands, practice it, we should not be needing a molvi for our nikkah, this can be done by any muslim, we should not be needing molvi for dua, we can do it ourself, these molvies have used islam and spread hatered amongst muslims, specially within and after that ******* ZIA. Before 80s there was not voilence between suni and shia, it only came into being when ZIA funded sipa-e-sahaba and shias were funded for sipa-e-Muhammad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abeypk View Post
    Those Munafiq Ulema regardless of being suni or shia should be thrown as a garbage, they gave nothing to muslims just sectarianism, voilence. We muslims should take islam into our own hands, practice it, we should not be needing a molvi for our nikkah, this can be done by any muslim, we should not be needing molvi for dua, we can do it ourself, these molvies have used islam and spread hatered amongst muslims, specially within and after that ******* ZIA. Before 80s there was not voilence between suni and shia, it only came into being when ZIA funded sipa-e-sahaba and shias were funded for sipa-e-Muhammad.

    bhai yeh azad khiyal deen bezaar sahafiuon walay khiyalaat ka kia faida ???

    masail ka hal jab sab sects nay mutafiqa tor pay bana k govt.. ko day dea tu govt... kiuon osko nafiz nahi karti maulvi ka koe kusoor nahi es main....

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    Re: TOHEEN e SAHABA par australian ko Saudia mai SAZA

    Quote Originally Posted by w-a-n-t-e-d- View Post
    Agar ese tarha pakistan main saza pay amal daramad karwaya jay tu firqa wariyat ka khatma mumkin hai...


    shia rehnuma bhi kasam kha k keh raha hai k gustakh-e-sahaba rz kafir murtid hai or yeh bhi kasam khaee esnay k yeh taqyya nahi karraha




    tu humara mutalba hai k pakistan main bhi saza pay amal daramad kia jay ta k shia sunni sunni maslay ka khatma ho sakay

    Very nice suggestion brother.


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    What are you talking about - these are all fantasies - we will never do the right thing which are in fact pretty basic and simple.

    You ask whats the reason - the answer is simple too - a little long but simple - the thing is that mostly foriegn powers and anyone and their mother in law can buy top brass of the country either individually or as institution with money - either in the form of personal benifits or threat to cut off future aid - and then in return these foreign powers have installed their moles who let these criminal elements do their bidding in pakistan - all the sectarian outfits like SSP, LJ, Sipah Mohammad, or whatever the new one is on the shia side, they are all funded and directed/run from outside or at least they are given the broader goals. Now lets come to the other simple reason - the other simple reason is that there is a complete breakdown of institutions and accountability in this country. This has led to elimination of meritocracy and instead we have become a nation of mediocrity - when we have inept, incompetent, vanity filled, egoistic people in positions of power at ever level then this had to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by freshnkool View Post
    pakistan main agar namos-e-sahba kaa bhee qanoon bun jai tu yee masla hall hoo jai, balky yee kanoon bhee bana chahy k firqy ki bunyad per nafrat wali speaches karna. kufar k fatway lagana es per bhee baandi hoo.

    magar Ulmma ny proper tahreek nahi chali mill kar k goverment koo push kareen k woo namos-e-sahba kaa qanoon baneen.

    balky jahil or ciminal minded mullaon ny mafia gangs ki trah mazhab k naam per gangs bana kar ek dosry per humly shroo kar deyee jis say masla hall hony ki bajai mazeed uljh gia. or ajj yee hall hai k freqy ki bunyad per itni nafrat bhail chuki hai k 2 es agg main koi bhee mahfooz nahi.

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    Well, it all started when our brainless, greedy and shallow brothers on both sides - shia and sunni - started doing the bidding of Iran and Saudi arabia in the early 80s....
    they were given the directions and money and in some cases training to incite sectarianism in pakistan - they established their schools and funded them to produce the waves of brainwashed idiots who are thirsty for blood on both sides. This a reflection of the state of our society and the breakdown we see in society in general around us and its reflective of that. Killing someone is easy for these dumbos since its easy to pull the trigger or blow themselves up than really immmerse themselves in intellectual discussions and convincing.

    These people can't see that Iran and Saudi arabia are now pretty much over the proxy war that they started in our country and have moved on to other disputes but their paid agents are acting as more loyal than the king ...as they dont have a mindset to analyze or think on their own - unless they are directed by some iranian on shia side and some saudi on sunni side these people will carry on killing and threatening each other.

    The thing is that both sides dont want to see this and try to counter this argument vehemently as admitting this would take the air out of their arguments.

    The other day someone posted a recorded video about an unverified incident from probably a 60/70 years ago to prove how the people in india/pakistan dont take dictation from saudis I found it really funny .....

    I am sure you will find similar stories on the shia side......

    What we need is laws to strictly forbid ANY organization ANY sort of sectarianism and hatred and make sure that we DONT LET foreign powers interefere in our internal matters at all.....especially the so called "brotherly" nations
    Quote Originally Posted by abeypk View Post
    Those Munafiq Ulema regardless of being suni or shia should be thrown as a garbage, they gave nothing to muslims just sectarianism, voilence. We muslims should take islam into our own hands, practice it, we should not be needing a molvi for our nikkah, this can be done by any muslim, we should not be needing molvi for dua, we can do it ourself, these molvies have used islam and spread hatered amongst muslims, specially within and after that ******* ZIA. Before 80s there was not voilence between suni and shia, it only came into being when ZIA funded sipa-e-sahaba and shias were funded for sipa-e-Muhammad.


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    Fitna tu SHIA ka phelaya hoa hai jo Shane Shaba k bary bad zubani krty hain wrna dosra kon khta hai k Ali (rd) ki shan kise sey kam hai ya un ki tazeem nhi krna chay. Shia Umhat e Momnin pr buhtan ar ilzam trashi krty hain tab b in ko muslman kha jay?, dosra kon hai jo Umhat e momnin ki tazeem nhi krta ya un pr buhtan lgata hai Sirf ar Sirf Shia n they r Ka,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, L a N T ee.

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    No law will protect the sanctity of holy personalities of Islam. The law will be misused just like the blasphemy law.
    The best solution is that the scholars from Shia school must teach their followers that insulting the companions ra of Muhammad is not the part of shia or sunni beliefs.
    Ali ra set the examples of harmony by naming his sons Umar, Usman, and Abu Bakar. Ali ra gave his daughter in Nikah to Umar ra. There are many more examples of inter marriages and brotherhood. Similarly Aisha ra is the spiritual mother of Muslims and Quran is an evidence on her piety.

    Scholars should highlight those facts.


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    Iss pro ko ON-air nahi kiya gaya ....................? Pehley 6tn dec ka prog to telecast karney ki himat peda karo...............so called AZAAD Media........

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    Quote Originally Posted by w-a-n-t-e-d- View Post
    bhai yeh azad khiyal deen bezaar sahafiuon walay khiyalaat ka kia faida ???

    masail ka hal jab sab sects nay mutafiqa tor pay bana k govt.. ko day dea tu govt... kiuon osko nafiz nahi karti maulvi ka koe kusoor nahi es main....
    well btw i am not azaad khayal, to be very honest, i love my religion, my culture, but as i mentioned before we have to take things into our own hands, we have given every responsibility of religion to molvi/molana, we should understand quran, read tafseer, try to understand each aspect of islam by our own,


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