Arguments about existence of God

[Ghamidi]

Arguments about existence of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcL_j...02&index=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiWkt...02&index=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il4dk...02&index=3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLduD...02&index=4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrxS6...02&index=5

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Episode 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w53wU...02&index=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQ2R...02&index=7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWJOr...02&index=8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRXMk...02&index=9

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Episode 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUrko...2&index=10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPkm_...2&index=11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNPWd...2&index=12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OcXL...2&index=13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLOSn...2&index=14

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Episode 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d98CP...2&index=15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDJSk...2&index=16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3VqO...2&index=17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVWZM...2&index=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Hnw...2&index=19

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I am neither Islamist nor secular. I am a Muslim and a democrat. - said Javed Ahmad Ghamidi

[Saboo]

If I have to convince some one with arguments about God's existence
then he is not worth the effort.

[hans]

Strange is this post.... any one remotely connected to Pakistan, having any doubt that Allah SWT? Just look around your self.


My turning point came, after experiencing first hand 'Pakka Qila' incident.

[umarriaz]

You cannot prove existence of God by any logic or arguments. For every argument there is a counter argument. It just comes from your heart. Just see deep inside your soul you will find it. Listen Dr. Israr Ahmed's lectures.

http://youtu.be/8yp8zcS72_c

[Bacchus]

How someone can even dare to think and then further to say that he has doubts regarding the existence of any super being in Pakistan? How come,.....???
I have following recommendation for such fellows;
1- Never discuss such things in public
2- Be non active or lazy follower of your parent's faith.
3- Non active believer is better than active non believer or skeptic.... many Qadris are waiting their turn to be famous and be glorified with putting one bullet in your head.
4- Pakistan is not a place for such discussions
4- Be careful and save your life.....life is very cheap in places like ours.

[pathseeker]

kia faida in arguments ka , jab dil kay butkhanay main hazaron buton ko chupa rakha ho aur tasbeeh la ilaha ki karte hain.
Hum logon ka khuda paisa hai,jhooti izat hai,acha living style hai,hamara maslak hai,humara kibar hai,humari ilmiat hai,power hai humara nafs hai............................................... ......

yeh maal-o-dolat-duniya yeh rishta-o-pewand
butan-e-wahm-o-guman la ila ha illallah

[TruPakistani]

...............................I would request Admin not to allow such threads to be posted on this forum.

[zubair.maalick]

Please !! Such topics should not be discussed on open forums .. if any person have any doubt he/she should struggle it secretly or discuss with people of knowledge .. best to Read Quran .. but plzzzzz .. do not discuss here or such other portals .... it would be better if admin should delete this post .. thanks

[AbuOkasha]

ایک بزرگ جن کے پاس خدا کی وحدانیت پر ١٠٠ دلائل تھے، جب انکا مرض الوفات آن پہنچا تو شیطان آکے بہکانے لگا، آپکے دل میں وسوسے ڈالے، آپ ایک دلیل دیتے ، اور شیطان اسکے جواب میں دلیل دیتا، چونکہ شیطان بھی بہت بڑا عالم عابد زاہد رہا، ۔۔
یہانتکہ ان بزرگ نے ٩٩ دلیلیں دیں دیں اب ایک ہی بچی تو آپ نے سوچا اگر یہ بھی دے دی اور اسکا جواب اس شیطان مردود نے دے دیا تو میں تو برباد ہوگیا، ۔۔ابھی اس سوچ میں ہی تھے، کہ آپ دل میں اللہ نے وہ بات ڈال دی جو قیامت تک ایک مثال بن گئی، کہ کہہ کیوں نہیں دیتا میں اسکو بغیر کسی دلیل کہ مانتا ہوں۔۔۔۔
یہ کہنا تھا کہ آپ کی روح پرواز کر گئی،۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
تو ان جسیے تمام لوگوں کیلیے ہم بھی یہیی کہتے ہیں۔


ہم خدائے وحدہ لاشریک کو بلا کسی دلیل کے مانتے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

[maksyed]

@AbuOkasha , @zubair .maalick, @TruPakistani , @umarriaz , @MK Malik

I would like to request all admins/moderators/super moderators to kindly exercise reasonable care to allow these kind of threads ..... it is a risk for those who might be misunderstood the existence of ALLAH SWT & subsequently got confused & deny the existence of our LORD .... we all will equally responsible for that if this will carry on .... WALLAH AALAM

I hope admins will consider our request to draft a policy upon these issues ......

@Admin , @Waseem , @root, @abbasiali , @Adeel , @foqia khan , @AbdulRehman , @ayshairas , @Saeed1

[Mughal1]

The quran tells us that Allah created people ignorant but with brains and senses and capability to learn and become knowledgeable and wise eg see 16/78 and various other verses. http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/16/78/default.htm

We are told avoid arguing with ignorant people 25/63. http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/25/63/default.htm

We are told to be wise by pondering over verses of the quran and be not like dumb and deaf 4/82, 25/73
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/4/82/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/25/73/default.htm

The quran tells us find common ground eg 3/64. http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/3/64/default.htm

Argue wisely and nicely 16/125, 29/46 31/19 etc.

http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/16/125/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/29/46/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/31/19/default.htm

We are told the quran contains proofs eg 4/174, 6/104 etc.

http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/4/174/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/6/104/default.htm


The quran tells us to demand proofs of others for their claims eg 2/111, 21/24, 23/117, 27/64 etc.

http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/2/111/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/21/24/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/23/117/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/27/64/default.htm

The quran tells us don't divide into sects eg 3/103 etc.
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/3/103/default.htm

[Mughal1]

ایک بزرگ جن کے پاس خدا کی وحدانیت پر ١٠٠ دلائل تھے، جب انکا مرض الوفات آن پہنچا تو شیطان آکے بہکانے لگا، آپکے دل میں وسوسے ڈالے، آپ ایک دلیل دیتے ، اور شیطان اسکے جواب میں دلیل دیتا، چونکہ شیطان بھی بہت بڑا عالم عابد زاہد رہا، ۔۔
یہانتکہ ان بزرگ نے ٩٩ دلیلیں دیں دیں اب ایک ہی بچی تو آپ نے سوچا اگر یہ بھی دے دی اور اسکا جواب اس شیطان مردود نے دے دیا تو میں تو برباد ہوگیا، ۔۔ابھی اس سوچ میں ہی تھے، کہ آپ دل میں اللہ نے وہ بات ڈال دی جو قیامت تک ایک مثال بن گئی، کہ کہہ کیوں نہیں دیتا میں اسکو بغیر کسی دلیل کہ مانتا ہوں۔۔۔۔
یہ کہنا تھا کہ آپ کی روح پرواز کر گئی،۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
تو ان جسیے تمام لوگوں کیلیے ہم بھی یہیی کہتے ہیں۔


ہم خدائے وحدہ لاشریک کو بلا کسی دلیل کے مانتے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

yeh waaqiya ghaalban bakhtyaar kaaki marhoom se mansoob hai jo ghareeb nawaaz marhoom ke shagird ke shaagird the. magar khilaafe quran maloom hota.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutbuddin_Bakhtiar_Kaki

[samar]

mera nhi khial k koi sacha ho ore vo vakee Allah ki talaash me justuju krey ore usey Allah na miley........

Allah kisi ko behs ore mubahisoo me nhi milta iskey liaey zindagi ka aik hi maksad rkhna parta he tb milta he.

[Bacchus]

Normally we ask for the evidence of things before their approval of existence or happening. But it only happens in case of faith or beliefs that we accepts something and ask a person to negate it. What about the existence of unicorn, fairies and wizards?

Believing something is OK, but killing someone for not believing your believe.....it ridiculous.

[Mughal1]

God: Fairytale or Truth? - Debate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu8rdspMFJ8

[6sman]

Salam, I don't believe we should be afraid to ask some real questions and our un-willingness do to so would simply expose us as blind-believers. It is un-real to think I as a believer would not wish to know my Allaah and how am I suppose to know and worship Him if I'm too afraid to ask questions? Our 'ulema ought really be encouraging deeper understanding of faith, instead of merely dishing out fatwas.

[Unicorn]

Normally we ask for the evidence of things before their approval of existence or happening. But it only happens in case of faith or beliefs that we accepts something and ask a person to negate it. What about the existence of unicorn, fairies and wizards?

Believing something is OK, but killing someone for not believing your believe.....it ridiculous.

Here is the evidence that I exist.

[forum4email]

Inkaar ya Iqrar 1 Of 5 By Prof. Ahmad Rafique (Haripur)

[zeyafa]

You cannot prove existence of God by any logic or arguments. For every argument there is a counter argument. It just comes from your heart. Just see deep inside your soul you will find it. Listen Dr. Israr Ahmed's lectures.

http://youtu.be/8yp8zcS72_c

If you just watch these videos..... you can prove God's existence, whatsoever.......... Scientifically!!