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    Pak Army kicks out US forces from Shamsi base / America Denies Reports


    http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrin...3&dt=4/22/2011

    Pakistan Army sources have confirmed that the airfield was free from the American forces.

    Pakistan has stopped all US operations from the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan, an airport which was given to American forces for use after 9/11 and drone attacks were launched from the base on targets in the tribal areas, military sources have confirmed. It was also used extensively in 2001 when thousands of US sorties took off to bomb Afghanistan a few weeks after the 9/11 attack in New York.

    As the relations between Islamabad and Washington have strained due to latter’s mounting interference and repeated breach of Pakistan’s sovereignty, the US Embassy spokesman, Alberto Rodriguez, confirmed that there are no US forces at the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan.

    Pakistan Air Force (PAF) spokesperson, when approached about his version on the vacation of US forces and the deadly drones from Shamsi airfield, explained that the airfield does not belong to the PAF while the Pakistan Army sources confirmed that the airfield was free from the American forces.

    No one was prepared to share with The News the dates or the time period when the Shamsi airfield was vacated by the Americans although the sources insist that it is a recent development.

    Almost a year back, Defence Minister Ahmad Mukhtar spoke on the topic of the Shamsi Air Base confirming that it was being used by American forces for logistical purposes but, he added, the government was not satisfied with payments for the use of the facility.

    Mukhtar, however, did not go into the nature of airfield’s use by the American forces. Prior to Shamsi, Pakistan had also got vacated from the US forces the Jacobabad Air Base and Pasni, which were used for its operations in Afghanistan.

    The US has been using the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan province to station unmanned Predator drones that have been used to attack terrorist targets inside Pakistan’s tribal areas. Shamsi airfield, also called Bandari, is a small airfield and air station located about 200 miles southwest of Quetta near the town of Washki.

    In 2009, media reports revealed that the airfield was used by the United States Central Intelligence Agency as a base for Predator drone attacks on so-called militants in Pakistan’s tribal areas but ended up killing several hundreds innocent people. On January 9, 2002 a US Marine Corps KC-130 aircraft reportedly crashed on approach to Shamsi. All seven crew members were killed in the crash.

    In February 2009, The Times of London had announced that it had obtained Google images from 2006 which showed Predator aircraft parked outside a hangar at the end of the runway of the Shamsi airfield. Before that, a US Senator Dianne Feinstein said that the CIA was basing its drone aircraft in Pakistan. The US company Blackwater was also reported to have a presence there, hired by the government to arm the drones with missiles.

    It was General Musharraf who had permitted the US to use its airbases not only to attack Afghanistan but also to launch drone attacks on the people of Pakistan in the name of the so-called war on terror. The present regime also continued with Musharraf’s policies and allowed much larger number of drone attacks than before.

    WikiLeaks had revealed that Prime Minister Gilani had endorsed the drones’ policy. Gilani was reported to have even said to the US officials that his government would raise hue and cry over these drone attacks for the sake of countering the public pressure.

    However, of late and after the Raymond Davis episode, things became extremely tense between Washington and Islamabad with the CIA insisting to carry on with its operations, including the drone attacks inside Pakistan, while the ISI is adamant to restricting the Americans from crossing the red-line.



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    Quote Originally Posted by az.ay View Post

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrin...3&dt=4/22/2011

    Pakistan Army sources have confirmed that the airfield was free from the American forces.

    Pakistan has stopped all US operations from the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan, an airport which was given to American forces for use after 9/11 and drone attacks were launched from the base on targets in the tribal areas, military sources have confirmed. It was also used extensively in 2001 when thousands of US sorties took off to bomb Afghanistan a few weeks after the 9/11 attack in New York.

    As the relations between Islamabad and Washington have strained due to latter’s mounting interference and repeated breach of Pakistan’s sovereignty, the US Embassy spokesman, Alberto Rodriguez, confirmed that there are no US forces at the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan.

    Pakistan Air Force (PAF) spokesperson, when approached about his version on the vacation of US forces and the deadly drones from Shamsi airfield, explained that the airfield does not belong to the PAF while the Pakistan Army sources confirmed that the airfield was free from the American forces.

    No one was prepared to share with The News the dates or the time period when the Shamsi airfield was vacated by the Americans although the sources insist that it is a recent development.

    Almost a year back, Defence Minister Ahmad Mukhtar spoke on the topic of the Shamsi Air Base confirming that it was being used by American forces for logistical purposes but, he added, the government was not satisfied with payments for the use of the facility.

    Mukhtar, however, did not go into the nature of airfield’s use by the American forces. Prior to Shamsi, Pakistan had also got vacated from the US forces the Jacobabad Air Base and Pasni, which were used for its operations in Afghanistan.

    The US has been using the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan province to station unmanned Predator drones that have been used to attack terrorist targets inside Pakistan’s tribal areas. Shamsi airfield, also called Bandari, is a small airfield and air station located about 200 miles southwest of Quetta near the town of Washki.

    In 2009, media reports revealed that the airfield was used by the United States Central Intelligence Agency as a base for Predator drone attacks on so-called militants in Pakistan’s tribal areas but ended up killing several hundreds innocent people. On January 9, 2002 a US Marine Corps KC-130 aircraft reportedly crashed on approach to Shamsi. All seven crew members were killed in the crash.

    In February 2009, The Times of London had announced that it had obtained Google images from 2006 which showed Predator aircraft parked outside a hangar at the end of the runway of the Shamsi airfield. Before that, a US Senator Dianne Feinstein said that the CIA was basing its drone aircraft in Pakistan. The US company Blackwater was also reported to have a presence there, hired by the government to arm the drones with missiles.

    It was General Musharraf who had permitted the US to use its airbases not only to attack Afghanistan but also to launch drone attacks on the people of Pakistan in the name of the so-called war on terror. The present regime also continued with Musharraf’s policies and allowed much larger number of drone attacks than before.

    WikiLeaks had revealed that Prime Minister Gilani had endorsed the drones’ policy. Gilani was reported to have even said to the US officials that his government would raise hue and cry over these drone attacks for the sake of countering the public pressure.

    However, of late and after the Raymond Davis episode, things became extremely tense between Washington and Islamabad with the CIA insisting to carry on with its operations, including the drone attacks inside Pakistan, while the ISI is adamant to restricting the Americans from crossing the red-line.
    jazakAllah for th epost. They should shut down the diplomatic mission too

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    http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrin...3&dt=4/22/2011

    Pakistan Army sources have confirmed that the airfield was free from the American forces.
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    However, of late and after the Raymond Davis episode, things became extremely tense between Washington and Islamabad with the CIA insisting to carry on with its operations, including the drone attacks inside Pakistan, while the ISI is adamant to restricting the Americans from crossing the red-line.


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    jazakAllah for th epost. They should shut down the diplomatic mission too
    It would be rather too early to go to this extent. Step by Step. Slow and steady wins the race.

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    ناپاک سیاستدان جتنا ملک کوبیچنا چاہیں، پاک فوج کے یہ مرد مجاہد اسی طرح ہماری پاک سر زمین کا دفاع کرتے رہیں گے۔

    اللھ اکبر!

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    News of the same type from Tarbela base is dearly awaited.

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    Re: Pak Army kicks out US forces from Shamsi base

    Quote Originally Posted by az.ay View Post
    ناپاک سیاستدان جتنا ملک کوبیچنا چاہیں، پاک فوج کے یہ مرد مجاہد اسی طرح ہماری پاک سر زمین کا دفاع کرتے رہیں گے۔

    اللھ اکبر!

    اے مرد مجاہد جاگ ذرا اب وقت حفاظت ہے آیا

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    Re: Pak Army kicks out US forces from Shamsi base

    Now every one will take the credit..starting from crazy mullah to each and every Government Dept minus the Education Ministry.. to Mr Imran Khan to who know ISI or even CIA.

    Brothers, currently we have chose to dismount the US camel and hug the Chines Camel. As for Double crossing.... the payments are still due. Remember Zia ul Haq, he sure did some massive double crossing. Remember the results.

    Did I not tell you... the game over Pakistan is getting interesting, day by day. I just hope that Pakistan does not become PaniPat for US and China.

    Closing the base is not the answer ... if we find no difference in the frequency of Drone attack then I am sure, the game is out our reach before the Game even starts.
    Last edited by hans; 23-Apr-2011 at 07:47 PM.


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    Well all pakistanis its about time that the situation in pakistan will deterioate further coz americans will play very dirty games with help of india and afghan and ofcourse isreal & Russia.

    Lets dont think we can not face them....have trust in Allah ...pray to ALlah and do our best to defeat our enemy on every front,

    i will tell you later what fronts do we need to secure.

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    india has no role in WOT!!

    so please keep india away from your conspiracy theory..


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    There are certain people whose hearts are locked and cursed with disease by Allah (SWT).................And some of them you shall find spewing venom against Madena-e-Sani and the Muslims. But the bite only themselves. just ignore them.

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    Re: Pak Army kicks out US forces from Shamsi base

    Quote Originally Posted by az.ay View Post
    ناپاک سیاستدان جتنا ملک کوبیچنا چاہیں، پاک فوج کے یہ مرد مجاہد اسی طرح ہماری پاک سر زمین کا دفاع کرتے رہیں گے۔

    اللھ اکبر!

    Not fair
    Politicians passed a unanimous resolution two and a half years ago
    But we all knew this is out of bounds for them
    Military is wholly solely incharge and they have done what they wanted at their own convenience
    I am neither defending politicians nor praising military
    military probably waited to avoid any confrontation and point blank refusal to Gen Pasha expedited the matter.
    Wonder if you will salute Pak Foj for releasing Raymond Davis...


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    Quote Originally Posted by az.ay View Post

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrin...3&dt=4/22/2011

    Pakistan Army sources have confirmed that the airfield was free from the American forces.

    Pakistan has stopped all US operations from the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan, an airport which was given to American forces for use after 9/11 and drone attacks were launched from the base on targets in the tribal areas, military sources have confirmed. It was also used extensively in 2001 when thousands of US sorties took off to bomb Afghanistan a few weeks after the 9/11 attack in New York.

    As the relations between Islamabad and Washington have strained due to latter’s mounting interference and repeated breach of Pakistan’s sovereignty, the US Embassy spokesman, Alberto Rodriguez, confirmed that there are no US forces at the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan.

    Pakistan Air Force (PAF) spokesperson, when approached about his version on the vacation of US forces and the deadly drones from Shamsi airfield, explained that the airfield does not belong to the PAF while the Pakistan Army sources confirmed that the airfield was free from the American forces.

    No one was prepared to share with The News the dates or the time period when the Shamsi airfield was vacated by the Americans although the sources insist that it is a recent development.

    Almost a year back, Defence Minister Ahmad Mukhtar spoke on the topic of the Shamsi Air Base confirming that it was being used by American forces for logistical purposes but, he added, the government was not satisfied with payments for the use of the facility.

    Mukhtar, however, did not go into the nature of airfield’s use by the American forces. Prior to Shamsi, Pakistan had also got vacated from the US forces the Jacobabad Air Base and Pasni, which were used for its operations in Afghanistan.

    The US has been using the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan province to station unmanned Predator drones that have been used to attack terrorist targets inside Pakistan’s tribal areas. Shamsi airfield, also called Bandari, is a small airfield and air station located about 200 miles southwest of Quetta near the town of Washki.

    In 2009, media reports revealed that the airfield was used by the United States Central Intelligence Agency as a base for Predator drone attacks on so-called militants in Pakistan’s tribal areas but ended up killing several hundreds innocent people. On January 9, 2002 a US Marine Corps KC-130 aircraft reportedly crashed on approach to Shamsi. All seven crew members were killed in the crash.

    In February 2009, The Times of London had announced that it had obtained Google images from 2006 which showed Predator aircraft parked outside a hangar at the end of the runway of the Shamsi airfield. Before that, a US Senator Dianne Feinstein said that the CIA was basing its drone aircraft in Pakistan. The US company Blackwater was also reported to have a presence there, hired by the government to arm the drones with missiles.

    It was General Musharraf who had permitted the US to use its airbases not only to attack Afghanistan but also to launch drone attacks on the people of Pakistan in the name of the so-called war on terror. The present regime also continued with Musharraf’s policies and allowed much larger number of drone attacks than before.

    WikiLeaks had revealed that Prime Minister Gilani had endorsed the drones’ policy. Gilani was reported to have even said to the US officials that his government would raise hue and cry over these drone attacks for the sake of countering the public pressure.

    However, of late and after the Raymond Davis episode, things became extremely tense between Washington and Islamabad with the CIA insisting to carry on with its operations, including the drone attacks inside Pakistan, while the ISI is adamant to restricting the Americans from crossing the red-line.
    haha
    you doe eyed so called patriotic sheeple who keep singing "mairay watan kay sajeelay jawaano" instead of praying 5 times daily have always some excuse to try to prove that your zionist agent generals have become "mujahids"!
    keep dreaming till soon hammer falls on you.remember my words.

    shamsi base was evacuated according to inside sources because america got bases in north west pakistan now ,as world oil prices have doubled so america also wants to save fuel and attack pakistanis from nearby bases.
    i am giving below cnn article on the same which clearly says that drone attacks which happen with assistance from pakistan army will continue after evacuation from shamsi base which was no longer suited for united states operations
    the proof of this is the yesterdays attack on north waziristan by american planes that killed 30 women and children

    read below article

    Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- U.S. military personnel have left a southern base in Pakistan said to be a key hub for American drone operations in the country's northwestern tribal areas, a senior Pakistani intelligence official told CNN on Friday.
    Drones are said to take off and get refueled for operations against Islamic militants from the Shamsi Air Base in Pakistan's Balochistan province.
    News of a possible U.S. departure comes amid a public furor over American drone attacks which have killed civilians.
    A suspected U.S. drone strike Friday in the Pakistani tribal region killed 25 people, including eight civilians and 17 militants, a Pakistani intelligence source said. Another one on March 17 killed 44, mostly civilians.



    Unmanned aerial vehicles




    Another senior Pakistani intelligence official, who did not want to be identified discussing a sensitive issue, confirmed Americans had been using the base as a center of operations for launching drone strikes. He was not able to confirm if the Americans had left.
    The first official said that American personnel were no longer operating out of the base, but he could not say whether they had left voluntarily or at the request of the Pakistani government.
    The operation of the base -- which the U.S. government has not publicly acknowledged -- has always been presumed to have occurred with tacit Pakistani military consent.
    It was not clear from the Pakistani officials when the presence there began or when it ended.
    A U.S. military official who did not want to be identified told CNN: "There are no U.S. forces at Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan." He did not respond at the time or in writing to queries as to whether U.S. personnel had been based there in the past.
    The departure of American personnel -- if confirmed -- would be significant because of increasing strain between Islamabad and Washington sparked by the drone attacks and the Raymond Davis affair in which a CIA contractor fatally shot two Pakistani men in a Lahore neighborhood.
    It has always been unclear how many drone bases the United States operates in or near Pakistan. But Friday's attack in North Waziristan that killed 25 people would indicate the United States maintains the capability to strike tribal areas with drones.
    Carl Forsberg, research analyst at the Institute for the Study of War think tank, said he doesn't think such a move would affect the effort using drones to target the Haqqani Network and other militant groups holed up in the tribal region.
    Many strikes have been conducted from closer bases, such as those across the Pakistani border in eastern Afghan provinces. He said Pakistanis could be making such a move to appease a populace angry at the United States.
    The southern air base, he said, doesn't appear to be integral to the tribal area fight and is probably a supporting base.
    "It's not like the Pakistanis shut down the program," he said. "It's possible they want to do this as a means of pre-empting drone strikes in Balochistan," where there is a Taliban presence.
    "The United States has an interest in going after the Taliban in Balochistan," he said, and in an ideal world the United States would like to target Taliban sanctuaries in that region with drones.
    Also, he said, it's possible the Pakistanis are using pressure on the United States to offset any U.S. pressure on them.
    He said it's no coincidence that the development emerged after Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, visited Islamabad.
    In an interview that aired Wednesday on Pakistan's Geo TV, Mullen spoke forcefully about the Haqqani Network, saying it "specifically facilitates and supports the Taliban who move in Afghanistan, and they're killing Americans."
    "I can't accept that and I will do everything I possibly can to prevent that specifically," he said.
    Mullen said Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence "has a longstanding relationship with the Haqqani Network. That doesn't mean everybody in the ISI, but it's there."
    "I also have an understanding that the ISI and the (Pakistani military) exist to protect their own citizens, and there's a way they have done that for a long period of time," Mullen said. "I believe that over time, that's got to change."
    A senior Pakistani intelligence official responded by saying, "We do have a relationship: that of an adversary."
    "We have made our resolve very clear that (the Haqqani Network) is an enemy we need to fight together," said the official, who did not want to be identified discussing intelligence matters.
    The Pakistani intelligence official told CNN that "we have our hands full" fighting other Islamist militant groups along the border with Afghanistan, notably those under the umbrella of the Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, "and once we are through with them we can turn on the other (the Haqqanis). We do not have the capacity to undertake simultaneous operations."
    The official said the "onus of providing proof of this" relationship was on the Americans and it was not up to the ISI "to start providing clarification."
    Asked if offense was taken from Mullen's remarks, the intelligence official said: "Not personally, no."
    In Friday's attack, a drone fired five missiles on a hideout in Mir Ali of North Waziristan, one of the seven districts of Pakistan's volatile tribal region bordering Afghanistan, two intelligence officials said.
    The officials said the militants, who were staying in the hideout, were planning to move into Afghanistan for an attack against coalition forces.
    The militants were local Taliban members from Orakzai agency, another district of Pakistan's tribal region, who were trained for war, the officials said. The intelligence officials asked not to be named because they were not authorized to speak to the media.
    But the attack also killed at least three women when one of the missiles hit a house next to the targeted compound, officials said. The Pakistani intelligence source identified the slain civilians as five women and three children.
    Friday's drone strike was the 20th this year, compared with 111 in all of 2010, based on a CNN tally.
    The strike comes two days after Pakistan issued a strongly worded statement condemning deadly suspected U.S. drone strikes in the country's tribal region.
    "Drone attacks have become a core irritant in the counterterror campaign," a statement from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Wednesday. "We have repeatedly said that such attacks are counterproductive and only contribute to strengthen the hands of the terrorists."



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    میرے اوپر پوسٹ والے صاحب کے نزدیک سی این این کی رپورٹ آسمانی صحیفے کی حیثیت تو نہیں رکھتہی کہیں؟


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    اے مرد مجاہد جاگ ذرا اب وقت حفاظت ہے آیا
    yesterday 25 innocent civilians were killed in drone attack in spinwan area which is on the border with BUNNU district , quite deep inside North waziristan. Since the attack more the five drones are hovering over the area ,searching for more targets.All the drones appear on the sky from south (Baluchistan) using 5 sattelite airfields of British era .The locals before 9/11 would use these airfield for speed testing during Eid festivals but after 9/11 all movements are restricted by our security forces.
    Those who cannot guard against any enemy intruding aircraf/drones donot deserve to be given a name of Mujahid rather its a bunch of cowards who are good in accumulating plots,murabas and money and show their backs when it come to defend siachin, kargil and FATA. They are brave when it come to kill own children in jama hafsa ,would burn Quran and ahadeeth books ,flush it in the severage nullahs and would not feel shame selling own country women ,men and children to americans for a meagre amount of $5000. THIS IS THE QUALITY OF MARDE MUJAHID WE GOT IN OUR BARRAKS.
    We are sick of reading this kind of desk reporters stories , we want results out there ,ACTIONS SPEAKS LOUDER.Till the time we donot see our SHAHEENS scrambling in the sky over miram shah and wana and bringing down couple of drones , defending own borders from intrusion by americans on daily basis , this army will never earn respect from their own nation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wadaich View Post
    It would be rather too early to go to this extent. Step by Step. Slow and steady wins the race.
    step by step army must target the agent of hanood and yahood some of open and few are in the media, talk shows, journalism, eduction. political parties, civil and local govt, and most important in national assembly. who got pakistani i.d cards name like muslim but playing game. u must have watch the talk show with kamran shahid i think program called azan or awaz was last week some time. there was 5 indian 1 pakistani ngo from our side parach saheb from jamat e islami but alhamdullilah he support pkistani cause very well.


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    kicks out ?? mean they were previously there.....??


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    Lolzz remember there will be more drone strikes so instead of shamsi they will flew from Baghram


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    Quote Originally Posted by crowbar View Post
    yesterday 25 innocent civilians were killed in drone attack in spinwan area which is on the border with BUNNU district , quite deep inside North waziristan. Since the attack more the five drones are hovering over the area ,searching for more targets.All the drones appear on the sky from south (Baluchistan) using 5 sattelite airfields of British era .The locals before 9/11 would use these airfield for speed testing during Eid festivals but after 9/11 all movements are restricted by our security forces.
    Those who cannot guard against any enemy intruding aircraf/drones donot deserve to be given a name of Mujahid rather its a bunch of cowards who are good in accumulating plots,murabas and money and show their backs when it come to defend siachin, kargil and FATA. They are brave when it come to kill own children in jama hafsa ,would burn Quran and ahadeeth books ,flush it in the severage nullahs and would not feel shame selling own country women ,men and children to americans for a meagre amount of $5000. THIS IS THE QUALITY OF MARDE MUJAHID WE GOT IN OUR BARRAKS.
    We are sick of reading this kind of desk reporters stories , we want results out there ,ACTIONS SPEAKS LOUDER.Till the time we donot see our SHAHEENS scrambling in the sky over miram shah and wana and bringing down couple of drones , defending own borders from intrusion by americans on daily basis , this army will never earn respect from their own nation.
    inlaha massabreen na preshan mere bhai allah pe bhrosa rakho sab theek hojaega du'a kee zarrat hae... dil se jo bat nikalti hae asar rakhtee hae......nahee hae taqat e parwaz magar rakhtee hae


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    Re: Pak Army kicks out US forces from Shamsi base

    Imran Khan to khud bharay ka tutto hay


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