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    Imran Khan Stance on Qadyani Issue (Video)


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    Hmm... very interesting.

    Imran's stance on Qadiyani issue is no different then the stance of Altaf Hussain.


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    This is normal when your education has had little to do with Islam and whatever you read about Islam was from English authors. Qaadyanis are non Muslims as per resolutions passed by all muslims of the world. Trying to implicate Pakistan alone is a foolish attempt. Qaadyanis are non muslims and they should call themselves qaadynis not muslims. from Muslims Hazrat Muhammad Sallahu Alaihi Wassalam was the last and seal of Prophets. ANyone claiming to be a prophet after that is a kazzab as was mirza ghulam ahmed qaadyani. By the way his name was ghuam ahmed qaadyani, why do qaadyanis call themselves Ahmedi they should call themselves ghulamis or ghulam ahmedis.


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    LOL!!!
    1. He did not answer the question. He did not say that he will repeal the Anti-Ahmedi law.
    He is like any other politician, he doesn't want to displease the fundamentalists.

    2. How do you define Justice? This term is open to interpretation. The affected party in this case, the Ahmedis, have a certain interpretation of Justice, and apologists for fundamentalists i.e. Imran Khan has a different interpretation and meaning of Justice.


    SHAME ON YOU IMRAN KHAN...!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horseman View Post
    LOL!!!
    1. He did not answer the question. He did not say that he will repeal the Anti-Ahmedi law.
    He is like any other politician, he doesn't want to displease the fundamentalists.

    2. How do you define Justice? This term is open to interpretation. The affected party in this case, the Ahmedis, have a certain interpretation of Justice, and apologists for fundamentalists i.e. Imran Khan has a different interpretation and meaning of Justice.


    SHAME ON YOU IMRAN KHAN...!!!
    jury u r an idiot and only here to stir... u find something wrong even in the most logical answer. y dont u mind ur bloody business. u have enough hindu forums out there y dont u go there and spout ur rubbish there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horseman View Post
    LOL!!!
    1. He did not answer the question. He did not say that he will repeal the Anti-Ahmedi law.
    He is like any other politician, he doesn't want to displease the fundamentalists.

    2. How do you define Justice? This term is open to interpretation. The affected party in this case, the Ahmedis, have a certain interpretation of Justice, and apologists for fundamentalists i.e. Imran Khan has a different interpretation and meaning of Justice.


    SHAME ON YOU IMRAN KHAN...!!!
    He said the right thing , am not his supporter but he is cent percent right.
    And Ahmadi's are not Muslims so why dont you guys stick with your faith and leave the Islam alone.
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    Indian media worried if IK comes to power Pakistan will emerge on international stage on big scale, he's a leader with everything that's required to succeed so guess what, they are trying to defame him by cheap tactics. DONKEYMAN BACKOFF TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN TURBAN midget.


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    Imran Khan gave the best possible, political answer. He left everyone to interpret justice for themselves.
    In my eyes, justice for fitna spreadig mirzai's would be to give them a chance to repent and return to the fold of Islam. else..... send them to the creator, who is The Most Just.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaudhry_1960 View Post
    Hmm... very interesting.

    Imran's stance on Qadiyani issue is no different then the stance of Altaf Hussain.
    That's cool. Both of them are Muslims, their stance related to Islam, Muslims and non Muslims should be the same.

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    Qaadyanis are non Muslims and that's it !!!!!!!!!!

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    In my eyes, justice for fitna spreadig mirzai's would be to give them a chance to repent and return to the folf of Islam. else..... send them to the creator, who is The Most Just.
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    And Ahmadi's are not Muslims so why dont you guys stick with your faith and leave the Islam alone.
    And non muslims are second class citizens in Pakistan.
    Your Constitution is discriminatory, and your failure to amend and remove those discriminatory articles shows your intention, which is evil...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horseman View Post
    And non muslims are second class citizens in Pakistan. Your Constitution is discriminatory, and your failure to amend and remove those discriminatory articles shows your intention, which is evil...
    This is Pakistan, not "secular" India where minorities are victims of planned ethnic cleansing and sometimes programmed pogroms. ---- And despite being a declared Muslim state, non-Muslims are never considered second class citizens in Pakistan. We see many three/four star generals belonging to Qadiyani community in the past and the present. Similarly Qadiyani community (despite being minority) is over-represented in civil bureaucracy. Our constitution (which is constitution of Islamic Republic) clearly defines who is Muslim and who is not. And once it is established that you belong to minority then your rights are protected by law. Yes there were incidences of sporadic violence in the past but I bet they are far less than what is happening in secular India. But in Islamic Pakistan, state reserves the right to prevent mixing of Muslims and heretics in the guise of Muslims. Indian state machinery acts (de facto under the facade of secularism) likewise to protect Hindu's interests. For instance today Mr. Horseman a supposed Hindu comes with a unique idea to desecrate all venerated Hindu Gods and Goddesses and still claims to be a Hindu and insists on his Hindu identity then probably he will be condemned to death in India (by an angry 'Hindu mob' of course).
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    Apart from Various Non Muslims Like Parsis, Buddhists, Jews, Bahá'ís, Christians,Hindu,Sikhs

    Those of you who don't want to read my post should watch this Video




    Pakistanis already have very good cordial relations with Israel.......................... Like a very strong community of NON Muslims Qadiani mardoods.............. They have connections at higher places around the world............................ There are Hundreds of Qadiani Soldiers serving in Israel Army.......................... everything i have just said Can be verified with a Few clicks......................even you can find it on qadiani forums and Israeli and international media .......................... Well Interestingly Right after the Lahore Attack, they have edited there Wikipedia entry and removed pictures of all of their worship places in Israel from their main entry ........................While It is True that qadianis are Non Muslims and they were declared Kafir by Arabic and non Arabic Scholars........ Still if you go to Any Islamic Entry on Wikipedia somehow you will be treated by their **** ( Qadiani )...................... just search for anything to do with Muslims & Islam on Wikipedia and you will find these Mardoods there..................................... surprisingly No one raised this Issue in pakistan and elsewhere...............
    Oh i forgot there are Jews living in Pakistan too....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Night-Hawk View Post
    This is Pakistan, not "secular" India where minorities are victims of planned ethnic cleansing and sometimes programmed pogroms. ---- And despite being a declared Muslim state, non-Muslims are never considered second class citizens in Pakistan. We see many three/four star generals belonging to Qadiyani community in the past and the present. Similarly Qadiyani community (despite being minority) is over-represented in civil bureaucracy. Our constitution (which is constitution of Islamic Republic) clearly defines who is Muslim and who is not. And once it is established that you belong to minority then your rights are protected by law. Yes there were incidences of sporadic violence in the past but I bet they are far less than what is happening in secular India. But in Islamic Pakistan, state reserves the right to prevent mixing of Muslims and heretics in the guise of Muslims. Indian state machinery acts (de facto under the facade of secularism) likewise to protect Hindu's interests. For instance today Mr. Horseman a supposed Hindu comes with a unique idea to desecrate all venerated Hindu Gods and Goddesses and still claims to be a Hindu and insists on his Hindu identity then probably he will be condemned to death in India (by an angry 'Hindu mob' of course).
    بہت مشکل انگریزی لکھی ہے بھئ، ذرا ترجمہ بھی کردو یرہ۔ اس ہندو بنیے کو بھی سمجھ نہیں آئیگی۔
    ........And who knows who had been bahind attacks on Churches or any other minorities' religeous places. There might be some foreign hands , like India, to defame Pakistan worldwide. But atleast we know unlike India, the govt. machinery usually not involve in such attacks.


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    Islams Brings Justice for every one regardless religion and race or any factor..............Imran Khan You gave a wonderfull Answer............ Islam Zindabad..............

    Only islam can give equal rights to every citizen.....................

    Imran Khan Inshallah u will be the next PM of Pakistan inshallah..Allah ke Hukkam se............

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    Lets be honest with ourselves,i am sunni and believe in justice and equality for every one.what some fanatics did to qadanies in their worship places killing innocents including women and childrens, God was watching-who can justify their killings, only the monsters and beasts. Did the relatives of dead ask blessings for pakistan,i dont think so. Result can be Tit for Tat . Now look what pak is going through ,can we ask ourselves real human beings ,for God sake live your own life and let others live their life. cruelty and injustice will finish pakistan so we should be careful with minorities.In Quran where it says go and kill the innocents,these are our religous fanatics who dont have even basic education. Those uneducated illiterates maulvis are the master minds behind these killings.Get them and hang them like they did in Algiers.
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    The heading of the thread is "misleading". In video, Imran Khan did not express his views on Qadyani issue, rather he talked about "justice" and why not Justice should also be for everyone in Pakistan including Ahemdis/Qadiyanis. Once they have been declared, then now there is no need to persecute them. This is against Islamic teachings. As long as NOONE harm you, Believers are not supposed to be on man-hunt without any reasons. We do not have any open licence to attack their places of worship. In that sense Justice should be done and that was Imran's point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raju View Post
    Oh my God, he is hinting repealing of the 74 constitutional amendments against Qadyani. Astaghfirullah

    It may cost him big time in popularity

    I am seriously disappointed


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    Quote Originally Posted by samy99 View Post
    Lets be honest with ourselves,i am sunni and believe in justice and equality for every one.what some fanatics did to qadanies in their worship places killing innocents including women and childrens, God was watching-who can justify their killings, only the monsters and beasts. Did the relatives of dead ask blessings for pakistan,i dont think so. Result can be Tit for Tat . Now look what pak is going through ,can we ask ourselves real human beings ,for God sake live your own life and let others live their life. cruelty and injustice will finish pakistan so we should be careful with minorities.In Quran where it says go and kill the innocents,these are our religous fanatics who dont have even basic education. Those uneducated illiterates maulvis are the master minds behind these killings.Get them and hang them like they did in Algiers.
    Sammy

    but the question was: Are you going to repeal the 74 law against qadyani?

    He said: we believe in justice

    What is a listener supposed to conclude from it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by karachiwala View Post
    This is normal when your education has had little to do with Islam and whatever you read about Islam was from English authors. Qaadyanis are non Muslims as per resolutions passed by all muslims of the world. Trying to implicate Pakistan alone is a foolish attempt. Qaadyanis are non muslims and they should call themselves qaadynis not muslims. from Muslims Hazrat Muhammad Sallahu Alaihi Wassalam was the last and seal of Prophets. ANyone claiming to be a prophet after that is a kazzab as was mirza ghulam ahmed qaadyani. By the way his name was ghuam ahmed qaadyani, why do qaadyanis call themselves Ahmedi they should call themselves ghulamis or ghulam ahmedis.
    well said

    I have asked Qadyanis several times with no reply.

    1. If Qadyani, call yourself as such. Why call yourself Muslims. Hindus/Christians call themselves what they are

    2. How can you believe in Ghulam Ahmed as a prophet when he died in the pile of his own excrement.

    3. If you are Muslim, why is your headquarter located in Jeruslem?

    Nobody will answer that


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