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    Ali Zafar refuses to sing Hindustan Zindabad song..


    Setting a unique example of love for the motherland, Pakistani singer Ali Zafar refused to sing Hindustan Zinadabad. It is the proof of his loyalty with the country. Some people forget love for country in sake of wealth and popularity and these people sing the songs of that country where they go. But Ali Zafar has set an example of patriotism. In an interview with Indian journalist Lipika Varma, Zafar was asked: will he sing a song with initial line Hindustan Zindabad. Ali Zafar replied that he is a patriotic Pakistani and will never sing such a song.




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    Another example of emotional fool,

    What they are trying to proof, This singer is, I believe singing Indian songs and if I am not mistaking, he has played role in Indian movie as well, so where had "MUHIB - E - WATAN" spirit gone at that time, when making big "THABANTO"

    Please stop fooling around, Pakistanis are not left only for these stupid activities,


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    پیسے کا کوئی مذهب نہیں ہوتا .
    پیسے کے لیے بھارتی فلم میں کام کرتے ہوے مسلمانوں کا مذاق اڑا کر بیہودہ گانے گآےَ
    اب کیا باقی ہے
    پیسے کی بات ہے.
    اگر پسیے ملے تو ہندوستان زندباد گانے میں بھی کوئی مشکل نہیں


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    Quote Originally Posted by abbasiali View Post
    Another example of emotional fool,

    What they are trying to proof, This singer is, I believe singing Indian songs and if I am not mistaking, he has played role in Indian movie as well, so where had "MUHIB - E - WATAN" spirit gone at that time, when making big "THABANTO"

    Please stop fooling around, Pakistanis are not left only for these stupid activities,
    @abbasi ali
    If we apply your aforementioned logic to all across the board then all those Pakistanis' living abroad are not loyal or patriotic and by this token then we can not even have trade with other countries which might be percieved as 'Not our friends'??
    When a Pakistani works anywhere in the world he/she does it to earn a livlihood and as long as it is within the ambit of the laws and kwaneen laid down by Islam it is alright.
    I personally think that if this news is true then Ali Zafar is a good man who understands his limits and chose to be honest about them, this way if he does not get invited to india or the indians do not want to listen to his songs then he makes a biggotry in indian character obvious, on the other hand if he gets invited then he has made his position clear to them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by QaiserMirza View Post
    پیسے کا کوئی مذهب نہیں ہوتا .
    پیسے کے لیے بھارتی فلم میں کام کرتے ہوے مسلمانوں کا مذاق اڑا کر بیہودہ گانے گآےَ
    اب کیا باقی ہے
    پیسے کی بات ہے.
    اگر پسیے ملے تو ہندوستان زندباد گانے میں بھی کوئی مشکل نہیں

    What makes you say that ? Who do you know of who has done things like that?


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    Way to go Ali Zafar, Love for one's country is not for sale


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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Gazer View Post
    @abbasi ali
    If we apply your aforementioned logic to all across the board then all those Pakistanis' living abroad are not loyal or patriotic and by this token then we can not even have trade with other countries which might be percieved as 'Not our friends'??
    When a Pakistani works anywhere in the world he/she does it to earn a livlihood and as long as it is within the ambit of the laws and kwaneen laid down by Islam it is alright.
    I personally think that if this news is true then Ali Zafar is a good man who understands his limits and chose to be honest about them, this way if he does not get invited to india or the indians do not want to listen to his songs then he makes a biggotry in indian character obvious, on the other hand if he gets invited then he has made his position clear to them.
    @star gazer,
    I don't want to accept my aforementioned logic, lol, that's why I called it emotional fool. getting whole bread and butter from the source, and finally when its time to pay back, then showing patriotism, that is simply not acceptable, I regard every one who work hard to deliver, but hate those who showed their hypocratic behavour, and this is the best example of hypocracy, "JIS KA KHATEY HO, USI KI THALI MAIN CHAID KARTEY HO" What's the difference if he would sing "HINDUSTAN ZINDABAD" for me its the best to pay back, we have no objection, every one should have courage to face and accept the truth, except declining truth as well as projecting it as great "PATRIOTISM".


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyHigh View Post
    Way to go Ali Zafar, Love for one's country is not for sale
    @highfly,

    Appreciate your thumbs up, but still don't understand, whats great have you find in it. its simple example of betrayal.


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    @Abbasi ALi,
    You are right.
    I don't know what is wrong if a non-resident singer sings "HINDUSTAN ZINDABAD"? Nothing harm in it as long as he remains loyal to Pakistan. He should taken as a gesture of friendship with India.
    If he sang, it would have been much better than those Pakistani actresses who work in Indian movies with full of vulgarity and bring a bad name to Pakistan.


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    lol.....there will b less money in it(who knows).........


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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Gazer View Post
    @abbasi ali
    If we apply your aforementioned logic to all across the board then all those Pakistanis' living abroad are not loyal or patriotic and by this token then we can not even have trade with other countries which might be percieved as 'Not our friends'??
    When a Pakistani works anywhere in the world he/she does it to earn a livlihood and as long as it is within the ambit of the laws and kwaneen laid down by Islam it is alright.
    I personally think that if this news is true then Ali Zafar is a good man who understands his limits and chose to be honest about them, this way if he does not get invited to india or the indians do not want to listen to his songs then he makes a biggotry in indian character obvious, on the other hand if he gets invited then he has made his position clear to them.
    I didn't get you. whats wrong with saying India Zindabad or Pakistan zindabad or UK zindabad as long as he is not saying murdabad to any country. Sorry to say i can only see in your own words bigotry and double standards in your thinking. If Pakistan was providing me with the job and feeding my family i would have no problem saying Pakistan zindabad. Looks like in Pakistan person who loves his country and works for it is not patriotic but any thug who shouts loudly India murdabad is considered as the biggest hero. May be this singer knows about Pakistani nature and just playing safe. However I think this is fake news as i could not find any such story in Indian media. Recently he said he wants to play MR INDIA. Once Pakistani comes to India he forgets about Pakistan.


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    Friends,
    1. I am an Indian, and even though i think that the formation of Pakistan was the biggest mistake of the past century, i still have no problem in saying Pakistan zindabad...

    2. Now i don't think this makes me less patriotic Indian.
    Last edited by Agent Orange; 05-Jul-2010 at 01:07 AM. Reason: grammatical errors


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepali Pandit View Post
    I didn't get you. whats wrong with saying India Zindabad or Pakistan zindabad or UK zindabad as long as he is not saying murdabad to any country.
    Rightly said bro.


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    Quote Originally Posted by abbasiali View Post
    @star gazer,
    I don't want to accept my aforementioned logic, lol, that's why I called it emotional fool. getting whole bread and butter from the source, and finally when its time to pay back, then showing patriotism, that is simply not acceptable, I regard every one who work hard to deliver, but hate those who showed their hypocratic behavour, and this is the best example of hypocracy, "JIS KA KHATEY HO, USI KI THALI MAIN CHAID KARTEY HO" What's the difference if he would sing "HINDUSTAN ZINDABAD" for me its the best to pay back, we have no objection, every one should have courage to face and accept the truth, except declining truth as well as projecting it as great "PATRIOTISM".
    Beg to differ with you. Singing or working in a diffrent country does not mean you have to against your beliefs and ideals. If the guy refuses to sing their national anthem that this is his right and I for one would side with him. I also do not agreee that this would tantamount to "JIS KA KHATEY HO, USI KI THALI MAIN CHAID KARTEY HO". This is just absurd. If he is getting work there then that is a sign of his value. Should he then bow down and say paye laagi sarkar???


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    Quote Originally Posted by karachiwala View Post
    Beg to differ with you. Singing or working in a diffrent country does not mean you have to against your beliefs and ideals. If the guy refuses to sing their national anthem that this is his right and I for one would side with him. I also do not agreee that this would tantamount to "JIS KA KHATEY HO, USI KI THALI MAIN CHAID KARTEY HO". This is just absurd. If he is getting work there then that is a sign of his value. Should he then bow down and say paye laagi sarkar???
    To be very honest, I don't get at all, what you are trying to emphasis.

    What I mean, is very straightforward. read from top to bottom, it may help you to understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepali Pandit View Post
    I didn't get you. whats wrong with saying India Zindabad or Pakistan zindabad or UK zindabad as long as he is not saying murdabad to any country. Sorry to say i can only see in your own words bigotry and double standards in your thinking. If Pakistan was providing me with the job and feeding my family i would have no problem saying Pakistan zindabad. Looks like in Pakistan person who loves his country and works for it is not patriotic but any thug who shouts loudly India murdabad is considered as the biggest hero. May be this singer knows about Pakistani nature and just playing safe. However I think this is fake news as i could not find any such story in Indian media. Recently he said he wants to play MR INDIA. Once Pakistani comes to India he forgets about Pakistan.
    What I do not get is that what is wrong with making your choice clear before hand and what is wrong with declining to do something you are not comfortable with? You are trying to give it some colour which probably will serve some purpose close to your heart. You are comfortable with Pakistan Zindabad, good! zindabad1 but that does not mean that I am now bound by your actions to reciprocate, that is your choice and the other is mine, is this not the essence of democracy that your country lays a claim to most vociforously and proudly.?
    You want to be called the biggest democracy but you do not like to behave like one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Gazer View Post
    What I do not get is that what is wrong with making your choice clear before hand and what is wrong with declining to do something you are not comfortable with? You are trying to give it some color which probably will serve some purpose close to your heart. You are comfortable with Pakistan Zindabad, good! zindabad1 but that does not mean that I am now bound by your actions to reciprocate, that is your choice and the other is mine, is this not the essence of democracy that your country lays a claim to most vociferously and proudly.?
    You want to be called the biggest democracy but you do not like to behave like one.
    @stargazer
    In my opinion, you have not picked the correct message of NP. Its not the point to call Zindabad to any nation, as far as not calling Murdabad, everything is correct, the basic issue has been remain as is, whats the point of refusing by singing Hindustan Zindabad, once getting whole bread and butter from Hindustan and still looking forward to gain more from Hindustan, than whats the point in having not singing Hindustan Zindabad, except fooling around Pakistanis. lol and definitely Some Pakistanis will appreciate this spirit, they will not look beyond how much money this guy had made and how much he is going to be, for them this will be a big issue, that this guy refuse to sing Hindustan Zindabad or may be he will demand more to sing Hindustan Zindabad. LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZ


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    Quote Originally Posted by manahalali View Post

    Setting a unique example of love for the motherland, Pakistani singer Ali Zafar refused to sing Hindustan Zinadabad. It is the proof of his loyalty with the country. Some people forget love for country in sake of wealth and popularity and these people sing the songs of that country where they go. But Ali Zafar has set an example of patriotism. In an interview with Indian journalist Lipika Varma, Zafar was asked: will he sing a song with initial line Hindustan Zindabad. Ali Zafar replied that he is a patriotic Pakistani and will never sing such a song.

    Five cheers for Ali Zafar...... He stood up for his motherland when it mattered somewhat. Working and making living in India is one thing but the host asked him to sell his conscience. The journalist wanted to coax YES out of him but she got disappointed.


    Abbasi bhai, your emotions are quiet understandable and the emotions of Zafar must be respected as well instead of bashing him.

    Also, I hope I do not offend you too much but I get the feeling that its not you but you'r advertisers are condemning him. That' how you came across to me anyway. I am sorry but just thought I point out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by abbasiali View Post
    @stargazer
    In my opinion, you have not picked the correct message of NP. Its not the point to call Zindabad to any nation, as far as not calling Murdabad, everything is correct, the basic issue has been remain as is, whats the point of refusing by singing Hindustan Zindabad, once getting whole bread and butter from Hindustan and still looking forward to gain more from Hindustan, than whats the point in having not singing Hindustan Zindabad, except fooling around Pakistanis. lol and definitely Some Pakistanis will appreciate this spirit, they will not look beyond how much money this guy had made and how much he is going to be, for them this will be a big issue, that this guy refuse to sing Hindustan Zindabad or may be he will demand more to sing Hindustan Zindabad. LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZ
    I have not missed the point but I do fail to understand the big issue being created . Ali Zafar was singing in india because indians wanted to listen to him and if they have now want him to sing hindustan zindabad and he refuses to do that then this can be viewed as indians trying to trap him for they should have asked him if he would be willing to do that in 2-3 years time from then. I think we are being unreasonable in the crticizm, he did what he believed to be right and did not decieve any one.


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    Pakistan Zindabadh Ali Zafar Zindabadh



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