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    Anti Islam article published in PakistanToday

    Elephant in the room:

    He’s deadly when he gnashes his teeth

    Pak Zoo was carved out of Hind Zoo in 1947, when the imperialistic British zoo-owners got bored of toying with the inhabiting animals, and decided to abscond from animal parks all over the world. For the decade or so leading up to the British selling Hind Zoo, it was clear that the zoo’s ownership would be returned to the locals, but the dynamics of the final deal weren’t quite as unambiguous. After much deliberation and debate, the future of Hind Zoo hinged over the fate of one animal, an elephant named Malsi.

    Malsi was born in Saudi Arabia, what seems like ages ago, and was brought to the subcontinent by Arab warriors, who used him to destroy any resistance that they faced in their long journey. Malsi encouraged their imperialistic cravings – among other fetishes – as he stampeded over anyone who denounced the Arabs or didn’t accept the elephant as the supreme authority. After reaching the subcontinent, Malsi first threatened to ‘Arabanise’ Hind, but when that didn’t materialise he found acquiescing followers who ended up creating a whole new zoo for Malsi.

    Despite being bestial, perilous and ferocious, Malsi mustered a massive fan following after his arrival in the region. His fans were extremely loyal and made sure – some inadvertently, others intentionally – that Malsi was always depicted as a humble and peaceful creature, which in turn ensured that the aficionados grew in numbers. It was believed that Malsi wouldn’t get proper coverage in Hind because of the presence of other star animals, and hence a struggling lawyer named A M Hannij, taking inspiration from an incoherent poet Labqi, decided to give his own career a massive boost by leading the movement for a separate zoo where Malsi would hog the limelight. But bizarrely, following Pak Zoo’s creation, Hannij addressed the zoo’s management committee on August 11, 1947 announcing how everyone in Pak was free to follow any animal they wanted, much to the bemusement of the committee. 65 years down the line, Hannij’s summersault is still being debated as zoo commentators continue to mull over Pak Zoo’s raison d’etre.

    Regardless of what the founding fathers intended, Malsi remains the star of the show in Pak Zoo. His dangerous self is preserved under the pretentious shroud of tranquility as he continues to live in a gargantuan room, designed exclusively to cater to his needs, with other inhabitants being sidelined in crammed cages. Malsi is as popular as ever, and is the centre of just about everything associated with Pak. Throughout the past 65 years or so Malsi has been forced into matters that have got nothing to do with him, and as a result Pak Zoo is taking a nosedive into crisis upon crisis with the Malsi obsession precipitously accelerating. And as the obsession escalates, what no one is realising is that there is no bigger predicament facing Pak than Malsi – the reason behind the zoo’s inception.

    From Pak Zoo’s Subjective Solution in 1949 to 1973’s Zoo License Act, Malsi has always been thrust upon the way the zoo would be governed. When you keep a precarious monster, nourish it, make it the be-all end-all of your foundation and then pretend that it’s passive and tranquil, you’re obviously laying the groundwork for eventually being eaten up by the beast. And that is precisely what Malsi has been doing, as we turn a blind eye to the elephant in the room.

    Pak Zoo has become a haunted place, with inexplicable occurrences becoming a norm in Malsi’s room. There are mysterious killings, murders, rapes, incidents of violence and bloodshed all over the place, and all in the room belonging to Malsi – the animal of peace. In October last year, Alalam, a 15-year-old school girl was attacked; the previous year a politician named Namlas Reesat was hunted down; the same year, Pak’s representative for other animals, Zabhahs, was killed, and these are just a few high profile cases among incidents of brutality that occur every single day in the zoo. And despite all evidence pointing towards Malsi as the culprit – who would readily accept the blame if anyone bothered checking– the zoo authorities find someone else to point fingers at and ignore the elephant in the room.

    Another mindboggling reality about Malsi’s viciousness is that he doesn’t even spare his own followers. The thing is, Malsi’s followers are divided into a plethora of groups and every one of them takes Malsi’s help to butcher the rest. And so, Malsi has helped cement the discriminatory lines that were drawn by the Arabs to distinguish themselves from the rest, and has created hostile divides among its own followers as well. One can gauge the loyalty of Malsi’s followers by the fact that despite being pulverised by the elephant they refuse to abandon their allegiance to Malsi. Perhaps it’s more of a case of loyalty towards your own group, in some cases, more so than any diehard faithfulness with regards to the elephant, which has seen the powerful sects massacre the rest through Malsi.

    The Malsi apologists are an interesting creed as well, who despite being vociferous flag-bearers of the elephant’s superiority, never actually pay him a visit. Nevertheless they claim that they know more about Malsi, than those who interact with him on a daily basis. The apologists tow the “animal of peace” line, and conjure nonsensical counter-explanations every time Malsi does someone in. These apologists are a funny lot, they raucously condemn Malsi’ victims and extol the elephant at the same time. They highlight Hannij’s August 11 speech to claim that Pak wasn’t created for Malsi and ignore the lawyer’s speeches over the preceding decade. They assert that everyone should be allowed to follow the animals of their choice, and forget that if that were the case Malsi would never have reached their zoo in the first place. The apologists paint a beautiful picture whenever Malsi smiles, and close their eyes when he gnashes his teeth.

    Pak has been feeding and grooming the elephant for 65 years, and in turn paying heavily for the ensuing destruction. The zoo has paid no regard to the animals that have inhabited it for centuries, and has completely destroyed its cultural essence to accommodate a foreign species. It is obvious that Pak can no longer carry Malsi’s weight; it is obvious that Pak can no longer afford being obliterated from the core; it is obvious that Pak can no longer bear Malsi’s violent antics; it is obvious that Pak cannot continue to ignore the elephant in the room; and it is extremely obvious that for Pak Zoo to live on, Malsi must depart.

    The writer is a financial journalist and a cultural critic. Email: khulduneshahid@gmail.com, Twitter: @khuldune


    http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013...t-in-the-room/

    I don't usually create threads but this is effing ridiculous! Murtad writer Kunwar Khuldune Shahid has previously written another anti islam article which was taken down yet now they have published another one of his crap? How can this type of non-sense even get published in Pakistani papers?

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    Murtad and munafiqs had been their since the birth of Islam, Islam will flourish and spread due to its beauty and goodness. so My fiends work on the idea of Iqbal and not on these murtads. embarrass them by truth of Iqbal.

    نا لہ فراق
    ) آرنلڈ کي ياد ميں (

    جا بسا مغرب ميں آخر اے مکاں تيرا مکيں
    آہ! مشرق کي پسند آئي نہ اس کو سر زميں
    آ گيا آج اس صداقت کا مرے دل کو يقيں
    ظلمت شب سے ضيائے روز فرقت کم نہيں
    ''تا ز آغوش وداعش داغ حيرت چيدہ است
    ہمچو شمع کشتہ در چشم نگہ خوابيدہ است''
    کشتہ عزلت ہوں، آبادي ميں گھبراتا ہوں ميں
    شہر سے سودا کي شدت ميں نکل جاتا ہوں ميں
    ياد ايام سلف سے دل کو تڑپاتا ہوں ميں
    بہر تسکيں تيري جانب دوڑتا آتا ہوں ميں
    آنکھ گو مانوس ہے تيرے در و ديوار سے
    اجنبيت ہے مگر پيدا مري رفتار سے
    ذرہ ميرے دل کا خورشيد آشنا ہونے کو تھا
    آئنہ ٹوٹا ہوا عالم نما ہونے کو تھا
    نخل ميري آرزوئوں کا ہرا ہونے کو تھا
    آہ! کيا جانے کوئي ميں کيا سے کيا ہونے کو تھا
    ابر رحمت دامن از گلزار من برچيد و رفت
    اند کے بر غنچہ ہائے آرزو باريد و رفت
    تو کہاں ہے اے کليم ذروئہ سينائے علم
    تھي تري موج نفس باد نشاط افزائے علم
    اب کہاں وہ شوق رہ پيمائي صحرائے علم
    تيرے دم سے تھا ہمارے سر ميں بھي سودائے علم
    ''شور ليلي کو کہ باز آرايش سودا کند
    خاک مجنوں را غبار خاطر صحرا کند
    کھول دے گا دشت وحشت عقدئہ تقدير کو
    توڑ کر پہنچوں گا ميں پنجاب کي زنجير کو
    ديکھتا ہے ديدئہ حيراں تري تصوير کو
    کيا تسلي ہو مگر گرويدہء تقرير کو
    ''تاب گويائي نہيں رکھتا دہن تصوير کا
    خامشي کہتے ہيں جس کو، ہے سخن تصوير کا''

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    Re: Anti Islam article published in PakistanToday

    This is the most bold and daring article I have seen my Salutation to Shahid and Pakistan Today I could never imagine something like this in Pakistan..

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    It was too long for me to have bothered reading what was said but I am only curious about the purpose Indians serve on a site aimed, primarily at Pakistanis and Pakistani political discussions?

    Don't they have their own sites to kill time on? What's their obsession with Pakistan?

    Do they, or anyone possibly believes that with Indians on the site, expressing their own views and thinking, Pakistanis will be influenced or the actual views of Pakistanis be reflected?

    Now, if someone wanted to do a survey on what the Pakistani community thinks about a certain topic, they will get the Indian view and assume that's what the Pakistanis are thinking. Because of this, they will wrongly assume that Pakistanis have a certain opinion about a specific topic because of the posts of these Indian nut-jobs.

    Also, what section or demographic of Pakistani society (or the expat community) are Indians representing?

    If Indian movies or songs are the only basis behind their presence on this site, then, Turks and Americans should be on here, too because we watch their movies, shows, listen to their music and follow their culture. But they are not because they don't care about Pakistan or Pakistanis as they are too busy with their own countries and societies.

    Are Indians somehow trying to suggest that they are better than the two communities or have absolutely no political discourse taking place in their own society for them to be on our sites?

    Or, instead, are they saying that they don't have any worthy freedom of speech or discussions taking place in their own political discourse to be on here?

    This fat idiot has insulted Pakistan, it's society and it's religion but no one has taken notice because they find him and his ilk to be irrelevant. On the contrary, our people are frequently banned or silenced for anything we say along the same lines.

    In other words, the Pakistani discourse is being presented as an Indian one so that our own views are never heard. So much for freedom of speech.

    You see these trolls on every Pakistani forum, newspaper, chat-rooms, blogs and discussion.

    How in the world do these retards have so much free time from their own societies to be worried about Pakistan or involve themselves in Pakistani affairs?

    I mean, I have to only laugh at these morons because they are not even invited or welcome here, which is all the more reason for these shameless idiots to not stay on.

    I have never seen a site where they're not insulted or asked to leave laikin itnay be.ghairat aur besha.ram hain kay jaatay hi nahi. Iss haathi kay bachay ki tarah.

    If Pakistani Hindus come on the site, it's a different thing but these people, I mean, come on people, get a life, move on, find something better to do.

    We don't want you here and neither are you welcome. We have our own Hindus and we care about them like Rana Bhagwaan Das and other bureaucrats in Sindh.

    They love Pakistan and hate you just like the Hindus of Nepal, Sri Lanka (who you betrayed) and Bangladesh.
    Last edited by gotti; 04-Mar-2013 at 10:27 PM.

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    Re: Anti Islam article published in PakistanToday

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicorn View Post
    This is the most bold and daring article I have seen my Salutation to Shahid and Pakistan Today I could never imagine something like this in Pakistan..
    U take care of Indian Zoo.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by gotti View Post
    It was too long for me to have bothered reading what was said but I am only curious about the purpose Indians serve on a site aimed, primarily at Pakistanis and Pakistani political discussions?

    Don't they have their own sites to kill time on? What's their obsession with Pakistan?

    Do they, or anyone possibly believes that with Indians on the site, expressing their own views and thinking, Pakistanis will be influenced or the actual views of Pakistanis be reflected?

    Now, if someone wanted to do a survey on what the Pakistani community thinks about a certain topic, they will get the Indian view and assume that's what the Pakistanis are thinking. Because of this, they will wrongly assume that Pakistanis have a certain opinion about a specific topic because of the posts of these Indian nut-jobs.

    Also, what section or demographic of Pakistani society (or the expat community) are Indians representing?

    If Indian movies or songs are the only basis behind their presence on this site, then, Turks and Americans should be on here, too because we watch their movies, shows, listen to their music and follow their culture. But they are not because they don't care about Pakistan or Pakistanis as they are too busy with their own countries and societies.

    Are Indians somehow trying to suggest that they are better than the two communities or have absolutely no political discourse taking place in their own society for them to be on our sites?

    Or, instead, are they saying that they don't have any worthy freedom of speech or discussions taking place in their own political discourse to be on here?

    This fat idiot has insulted Pakistan, it's society and it's religion but no one has taken notice because they find him and his ilk to be irrelevant. On the contrary, our people are frequently banned or silenced for anything we say along the same lines.

    In other words, the Pakistani discourse is being presented as an Indian one so that our own views are never heard. So much for freedom of speech.

    You see these trolls on every Pakistani forum, newspaper, chat-rooms, blogs and discussion.

    How in the world do these retards have so much free time from their own societies to be worried about Pakistan or involve themselves in Pakistani affairs?

    I mean, I have to only laugh at these morons because they are not even invited or welcome here, which is all the more reason for these shameless idiots to not stay on.

    I have never seen a site where they're not insulted or asked to leave laikin itnay be.ghairat aur besha.ram hain kay jaatay hi nahi. Iss haathi kay bachay ki tarah.

    If Pakistani Hindus come on the site, it's a different thing but these people, I mean, come on people, get a life, move on, find something better to do.

    We don't want you here and neither are you welcome. We have our own Hindus and we care about them like Rana Bhagwaan Das and other bureaucrats in Sindh.

    They love Pakistan and hate you just like the Hindus of Nepal, Sri Lanka (who you betrayed) and Bangladesh.
    Yes some Indians are obsessed with Pakistan, almost as if hating Pakistan is the purpose of their life

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotti View Post
    It was too long for me to have bothered reading what was said but I am only curious about the purpose Indians serve on a site aimed, primarily at Pakistanis and Pakistani political discussions?

    Don't they have their own sites to kill time on? What's their obsession with Pakistan?

    Do they, or anyone possibly believes that with Indians on the site, expressing their own views and thinking, Pakistanis will be influenced or the actual views of Pakistanis be reflected?

    Now, if someone wanted to do a survey on what the Pakistani community thinks about a certain topic, they will get the Indian view and assume that's what the Pakistanis are thinking. Because of this, they will wrongly assume that Pakistanis have a certain opinion about a specific topic because of the posts of these Indian nut-jobs.

    Also, what section or demographic of Pakistani society (or the expat community) are Indians representing?

    If Indian movies or songs are the only basis behind their presence on this site, then, Turks and Americans should be on here, too because we watch their movies, shows, listen to their music and follow their culture. But they are not because they don't care about Pakistan or Pakistanis as they are too busy with their own countries and societies.

    Are Indians somehow trying to suggest that they are better than the two communities or have absolutely no political discourse taking place in their own society for them to be on our sites?

    Or, instead, are they saying that they don't have any worthy freedom of speech or discussions taking place in their own political discourse to be on here?

    This fat idiot has insulted Pakistan, it's society and it's religion but no one has taken notice because they find him and his ilk to be irrelevant. On the contrary, our people are frequently banned or silenced for anything we say along the same lines.

    In other words, the Pakistani discourse is being presented as an Indian one so that our own views are never heard. So much for freedom of speech.

    You see these trolls on every Pakistani forum, newspaper, chat-rooms, blogs and discussion.

    How in the world do these retards have so much free time from their own societies to be worried about Pakistan or involve themselves in Pakistani affairs?

    I mean, I have to only laugh at these morons because they are not even invited or welcome here, which is all the more reason for these shameless idiots to not stay on.

    I have never seen a site where they're not insulted or asked to leave laikin itnay be.ghairat aur besha.ram hain kay jaatay hi nahi. Iss haathi kay bachay ki tarah.

    If Pakistani Hindus come on the site, it's a different thing but these people, I mean, come on people, get a life, move on, find something better to do.

    We don't want you here and neither are you welcome. We have our own Hindus and we care about them like Rana Bhagwaan Das and other bureaucrats in Sindh.

    They love Pakistan and hate you just like the Hindus of Nepal, Sri Lanka (who you betrayed) and Bangladesh.
    Well you have not been to any of their own sites. Hindus as a general rule will always start their chat with chu..., teri maa...., teri behan . . . . . This will always be true as long as you cannot reach them. If stand in front of them then it is a different story altogether. I think they come here as even when we oppose them we are civilized. Them getting a little bit of moola on the side also helps!!!

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    Re: Anti Islam article published in PakistanToday

    Quote Originally Posted by gotti View Post
    It was too long for me to have bothered reading what was said but I am only curious about the purpose Indians serve on a site aimed, primarily at Pakistanis and Pakistani political discussions?

    Don't they have their own sites to kill time on? What's their obsession with Pakistan?

    Do they, or anyone possibly believes that with Indians on the site, expressing their own views and thinking, Pakistanis will be influenced or the actual views of Pakistanis be reflected?

    Now, if someone wanted to do a survey on what the Pakistani community thinks about a certain topic, they will get the Indian view and assume that's what the Pakistanis are thinking. Because of this, they will wrongly assume that Pakistanis have a certain opinion about a specific topic because of the posts of these Indian nut-jobs.

    Also, what section or demographic of Pakistani society (or the expat community) are Indians representing?

    If Indian movies or songs are the only basis behind their presence on this site, then, Turks and Americans should be on here, too because we watch their movies, shows, listen to their music and follow their culture. But they are not because they don't care about Pakistan or Pakistanis as they are too busy with their own countries and societies.

    Are Indians somehow trying to suggest that they are better than the two communities or have absolutely no political discourse taking place in their own society for them to be on our sites?

    Or, instead, are they saying that they don't have any worthy freedom of speech or discussions taking place in their own political discourse to be on here?

    This fat idiot has insulted Pakistan, it's society and it's religion but no one has taken notice because they find him and his ilk to be irrelevant. On the contrary, our people are frequently banned or silenced for anything we say along the same lines.

    In other words, the Pakistani discourse is being presented as an Indian one so that our own views are never heard. So much for freedom of speech.

    You see these trolls on every Pakistani forum, newspaper, chat-rooms, blogs and discussion.

    How in the world do these retards have so much free time from their own societies to be worried about Pakistan or involve themselves in Pakistani affairs?

    I mean, I have to only laugh at these morons because they are not even invited or welcome here, which is all the more reason for these shameless idiots to not stay on.

    I have never seen a site where they're not insulted or asked to leave laikin itnay be.ghairat aur besha.ram hain kay jaatay hi nahi. Iss haathi kay bachay ki tarah.

    If Pakistani Hindus come on the site, it's a different thing but these people, I mean, come on people, get a life, move on, find something better to do.

    We don't want you here and neither are you welcome. We have our own Hindus and we care about them like Rana Bhagwaan Das and other bureaucrats in Sindh.

    They love Pakistan and hate you just like the Hindus of Nepal, Sri Lanka (who you betrayed) and Bangladesh.


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    Re: Anti Islam article published in PakistanToday

    What are you all talking about, he was talking about Malsi the elephant, not Islam. lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raaz View Post
    U take care of Indian Zoo.....
    Its a tough task there are several Elephants there


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mullah Omar View Post
    Yes some Indians are obsessed with Pakistan, almost as if hating Pakistan is the purpose of their life
    I am not in that group I only visit Siasat.pk nothing else and I am not obsessed may be addicted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lurker View Post
    What are you all talking about, he was talking about Malsi the elephant, not Islam. lol.
    you know exactly what he's talking about, don't act stupid lol


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    Re: Anti Islam article published in PakistanToday

    Good thing Muslim extremists don't understand satire, otherwise he would have caught a bullet by now.

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    Just added you to my ignore list. It seems as though, everyone will have to do the same to help us rid ourselves from having to read your foreign views.


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    Just added you to my ignore list. It seems as though, everyone will have to do the same to help us rid ourselves from having to read your foreign views.
    I don't have any ignore list, you are one of the reason I love this site so much

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    It works

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    Won't ever be using the "View Post" button

    EDIT: And definitely not the "Remove user from ignore list" button either

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    Good thing Muslim extremists don't understand satire, otherwise he would have caught a bullet by now.
    No, Sir. I think you mean, it's a "bad thing" that they don't understand it.

    In my opinion, (although, I didn't read the whole thing, just glanced over it), he was talking about a section of society that uses Islam for political gains and not all Muslims.

    Anywhoo, it's Pakistan, after all. People get death threats for humour and comedy.

    I still remember Moin Akhtar being threatened by Mehdi Hassan for a mere impersonation (that everyone enjoys, everywhere, including the artist who becomes popular in this way).


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    No, Sir. I think you mean, it's a "bad thing" that they don't understand it.

    In my opinion, (although, I didn't read the whole thing, just glanced over it), he was talking about a section of society that uses Islam for political gains and not all Muslims.

    Anywhoo, it's Pakistan, after all. People get death threats for humour and comedy.

    I still remember Moin Akhtar being threatened by Mehdi Hassan for a mere impersonation (that everyone enjoys, everywhere, including the artist who becomes popular in this way).
    You should read the whole thing. He's talking about Islam itself....malsi = islam.


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    Liberal fascist are product of Religious extremists - both have destroyed & are destroying social fabric of Pakistan. Throw both of these groups into Arabian sea to achieve peace.


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