US Defeat in Pictures :: A Quick Look at US Casualties in Iraq & Afghan.

[Sycosinner]

Wohi na doggy ki dum teri ki teri hi rahti hai.... Nothing to be proud of! Try to see the picture on a larger scale. Afganistan has been a backyard playground for the superpowers to go in there, play, mess around, flex their muscles, fuel their ego, test their latest arsenal, at the cost of innocent lives. Sadly, they come use and abuse, change the dynamics of the region, get contracts make moola and get out.
While it is fools like us, who take fake pride in these non sensical escapades which brings deadly brunt upon us. TRULY SAD!
Peace

[Islam4globe]

i wish you stay in kabul(if not pakistan) when taliban capture it again.its not about being brainwashed by anyone, the fact is once they( taliban, the gud ones) are in control of afghanistan they will start exporting thier REVOLUTION to pakistan.

Sorry wrong prediction without facts.

When Talibs Government was in Afghan 1995-2000 there revolution didn't ever crossed border of Pakistan. And Pakistan never got problem in SWAT, South Waziristan etc completely no threat at all.

But once US came here. Talibs were engaged in fight with WEST (US & Allies "48 Countries") so these borders were used by baad Pak Version Talibs now who are big problem.

Kabul was much more safer in Talibs times. No drug, no oppression, no crimes at all. Everything was quite and secure.

In Pakistan you can stick with DEMOCRACY Revolution for the rest of 1000 years and then each and every day make complains of corruption, western slavery CIA, Xe etc for eternity.

Until and unless ISLAMIC Revolution doesn't appear in Pakistan, there is no future of Pakistan, only defence to Pak is Islam and West is trying its best to wipe out Islam from minds of youths.



Do you understand the IMAGE?

[Islam4globe]

Wohi na doggy ki dum teri ki teri hi rahti hai.... Nothing to be proud of! Try to see the picture on a larger scale. Afganistan has been a backyard playground for the superpowers to go in there, play, mess around, flex their muscles, fuel their ego, test their latest arsenal, at the cost of innocent lives. Sadly, they come use and abuse, change the dynamics of the region, get contracts make moola and get out.
While it is fools like us, who take fake pride in these non sensical escapades which brings deadly brunt upon us. TRULY SAD!
Peace

True. West and enemy of Islam think that its easy to come to Afghanistan, play, mess around, flex their muscles, fuel their ego etc, BUT to go back its not possible without facing defeat. Its history of this region coming from the times of King Alexder who was also stuck here and his mother told her to leave this region as soon as possible. Because he also came in as a victorious king in a matter of days, he said its easy to conquer but to hold the area is not possible, so he crossed to Pak region to conquer but suddenly attacks started on his army and was facing big upsets then her mother told her to safe your face and leave there region and he left by giving his own WOMEN/GOLD in RANSOM to these people. You can see Green/Blue Eyes people in Waziristan and Afghan Region easily.
(This happened before ISLAM please, don't start giving fatwas)

Now US & 48 Countries came here to remove Talibs, they did the same, in fraction of days they conquered, but to hold the area became miserable for them and impossible.

So there defeat started with loss of CASH and LIFE'S without achieving there goals.

Talibs still exists at large and hold more areas as compared to Western Forces who hold only parts of Kabul but even not able to secure Kabul as a whole.

There Generals themselves accepted Defeat in many interviews but after "RETIREMENT" not in service. lolz.

The weakest point of west -----> ASKING FOR PEACE NEGOTIATIONS with TALIBANS ------------> don't you see the defeat here. lolz.
West has raised WHITE FLAG ---->easy to come but hard to leave.

They came to Afghan with there own will
but
will leave alive on Talibs Will.

[staray khaatir]

Sorry wrong prediction without facts.

When Talibs Government was in Afghan 1995-2000 there revolution didn't ever crossed border of Pakistan. And Pakistan never got problem in SWAT, South Waziristan etc completely no threat at all.

But once US came here. Talibs were engaged in fight with WEST (US & Allies "48 Countries") so these borders were used by baad Pak Version Talibs now who are big problem.

Kabul was much more safer in Talibs times. No drug, no oppression, no crimes at all. Everything was quite and secure.

In Pakistan you can stick with DEMOCRACY Revolution for the rest of 1000 years and then each and every day make complains of corruption, western slavery CIA, Xe etc for eternity.

Until and unless ISLAMIC Revolution doesn't appear in Pakistan, there is no future of Pakistan, only defence to Pak is Islam and West is trying its best to wipe out Islam from minds of youths.



Do you understand the IMAGE?

yes i understand the western imperialism and their greed for the natural resources of other nations but at the same time i dont see a future in a Taliban type people who would hang television for being un-islamic and destroyed the thousands of years heritage of Afghanistan.I have met the ppl who were living in Afghanistan during the TALIBAN RULE and no doubt it was better than the civil war and chaos of MUJAHIDEEN RULE but it does n,t make it the best option available.peace.

[Sycosinner]

Islam4Globe: Dude what are you even talking about? nothing is making sense! you cannot compare the military skirmishes of a few thousand years ago, with the capitalist imperialistic fueled modern warfare. Why are you creating hype about a barren land cannot be conquered! They controlled it for over 10 years now, violating every basic human right possible, killing millions, destroying infrastructure (IF THERE WAS ANY). This is the lowest blow to a sovereign nation, I dont know what greatness you speak of? They come loot, control natural resources distribute it amongst themselves give development contracts to Israel, India and EU countries. What did pakistan get? HUMILIATION! and now these afghans the two faced hypocrites have the audacity to point fingers at us, and here we are glorifying that land. SHAME! wake up smell the coffee, this isnt a fairy lala land. If you want to be proud of something then free Plaestine, Kashmir, those feats would be something to be proud of.

May i suggest, you should enroll yourself in a few political science and foreign policy classes, trust me it will broaden up and enlighten your horizon and give you a better understanding how this current world operates.

There is a thing called exit strategy! they did that in vietnam, they did that in IRAQ and theyre doing it all over again in Afghanistan its called divide and rule! Pakistan is weak, divided, volatile and at the brink of economic/cultural meltdown, Iran is in their grasp and they keep harrassing it. India got in Afghnistan through embassies and several NGO's and now fueling proxy clashes across pakistan. This is called balancing the powers in the region. China was going very strong and pakistan had its full support, Iran and Afghanistan were always neutral, with Srilanka always had the backing and soft corner for Pakistan. India, which once was a regional bully, after the demise of Soviet union got left alone in the region. So they renewed their vows with US, gained Iran's trust and are friends with Afghanistan through trades. So who is the biggest looser after 11 years? P.A.K.I.S.T.A.N.... Still if you dont understand it, Then i guess you will never get it.
Peace

[Sycosinner]

Lesson Learnt:
This was never our war, we should have never participated in it! Our ties with US are at the lowest, Afghanistan hates and blames us. India was always an archrival. What did we get out from all this? Well now we are the public enemy number one!

[Sycosinner]

@Islam4Globe: you think Bi-lateral talks are a sign of weakness? I think you need to get off that crack, which you are smoking right now! it is hurting your brain cells. What was sulah HUDAIBIYA? and other pacts made with christians and jews living in medina? wasnt that a peace pact between the kuffars and Muslims? It was a social peace pact, Islam was in an infancy state, it needed time and cushion to grow and get stronger. This is why you go for peace talks, dialogues and come to common terms.

Clearly our Prophet (PBUH) wasnt a coward nor he was weak. BUT HE WAS DEFINITELY SMART, INTELLIGENT Peace loving. I really feel sad for your current state of mind and your polluted train of thought, which has been hijacked by the inglorious, delusional MUSLIM HISTORY. Stop digging in the past, open up and think about yourself and your country and how to make things better.
Peace

[PakiPatriot]

@Islam4Globe: you think Bi-lateral talks are a sign of weakness? I think you need to get off that crack, which you are smoking right now! it is hurting your brain cells. What was sulah HUDAIBIYA? and other pacts made with christians and jews living in medina? wasnt that a peace pact between the kuffars and Muslims? It was a social peace pact, Islam was in an infancy state, it needed time and cushion to grow and get stronger. This is why you go for peace talks, dialogues and come to common terms.

Clearly our Prophet (PBUH) wasnt a coward nor he was weak. BUT HE WAS DEFINITELY SMART, INTELLIGENT Peace loving. I really feel sad for your current state of mind and your polluted train of thought, which has been hijacked by the inglorious, delusional MUSLIM HISTORY. Stop digging in the past, open up and think about yourself and your country and how to make things better.
Peace

Yes the pact with the jews of madina is a very good example.. Muslims were weak, they came from Makkah without any stuff.. they needed to settle themselves and make a living.. so they needed peace & security.. so muslims being weak at that time made the pact and later on when they got strength and jews betrayed they kicked them out of the Madina (form their own land.. right?)
Similarly in Mekkah they made a pact with Quraish, at their place, right outside Makkah.. they were coming from Madina.. and they were travellers, for Umrah. weak at the moment.. they made the pact to get the permission for Umrah next year. which they got.. plus they got a pact of no more wars.. a win win situation for muslims... So muslims gain strength.. conquered Khyber and then conquered Makkah..

Now come here.. Taliban are on the run.. bombed every day by US/Nato allies... American winning... but americans coming for a pact with Taliban... something is not right... instead of Taliban asking for them for a pact.. they are going for a peace pact... So are the americans weak? According to your 2 very important examples.. weak comes for a pact... we know americans publicly asking for a pact/dialogue..

We also know Taliban walked out of the dialogue after some recent issue.. i dont remember exactly... So are Taliban strong that they are not going for a dialogue?? But more important question is after 10 yrs Prophet (SAW) didnt go for a pact with anyone... Prophet (SAW) didnt ask for a dialogue in khyber when He (SAW) was attacking it.. so just confused... 1 + 1 is not coming out to 2.. can you help?

[Sycosinner]

@Pakipatriot:Yes, this is a very easy situation nothing complicated to comprehend. Afghani people, time and time proved that they are back stabbers. Their current president is a living prime example of that. They make and break promises, quicker than a season changes. It is simple they dont trust no one. I dont even blame them for that! This happens when your country is war struck and you have several different war loads running the big show. You can talk with a few but not all. Also there are so many types of Talibans, which partricular TALIBAN you are talking about?

Secondly, who said the weak always offers dialogue or promotes pact. this is not a universal law, Muslim conquests specially the byzantine, and crusades a few christian inquisitions and couple of mughal/hindu empires (AKBAR,JEHANGIR,ASHOKA) are living examples for that. It was when the powerful offered peace pact to the crippled and defeated.

I think even those were kuffars and mushrik, had more character than the Talibani afghans, despite of being muslims. Lastly dont forget, Elections are nearing, Obama made a fake fiasco about bin laden, Health reform bill got passed, Biggest acheivement by the US congress since industrial age! and now they are proposing the exit strategy, clearly their economy is affected too, people are turning against war, its a common lifecycle. So they are proposing withdrawal. They may take out american troops, but they will replace it, MATTER OF FACT they have already replaced it with NATO/Black water OPS/ and Bournce supremacy type characters THINK! my friend THINK! tHey created Talibans, they will use them, dispose them and do whatever what they want with them

[Sycosinner]

@Paki Patriot Historicaly you are weak my friend! even 10 years past Hijrah, Prophet was inviting rulers around the world, to submit to ALLAH. Matter of fact A pope of a church in byzantine empire wrote a letter to the prophet (PBUH) and asked him to not attack their city and let them practice christianity. Upon which Prophet (PBUH) vowed a peace pact with him and assured him protection under Muslim empire, if any external force would attack them

How about that? If you want reference I can provide that too
Peace

[PakiPatriot]

@Pakipatriot:Yes, this is a very easy situation nothing complicated to comprehend. Afghani people, time and time proved that they are back stabbers. Their current president is a living prime example of that. They make and break promises, quicker than a season changes. It is simple they dont trust no one. I dont even blame them for that! This happens when your country is war struck and you have several different war loads running the big show. You can talk with a few but not all. Also there are so many types of Talibans, which partricular TALIBAN you are talking about?

Secondly, who said the weak always offers dialogue or promotes pact. this is not a universal law, Muslim conquests specially the byzantine, and crusades a few christian inquisitions and couple of mughal/hindu empires (AKBAR,JEHANGIR,ASHOKA) are living examples for that. It was when the powerful offered peace pact to the crippled and defeated.

I think even those were kuffars and mushrik, had more character than the Talibani afghans, despite of being muslims. Lastly dont forget, Elections are nearing, Obama made a fake fiasco about bin laden, Health reform bill got passed, Biggest acheivement by the US congress since industrial age! and now they are proposing the exit strategy, clearly their economy is affected too, people are turning against war, its a common lifecycle. So they are proposing withdrawal. They may take out american troops, but they will replace it, MATTER OF FACT they have already replaced it with NATO/Black water OPS/ and Bournce supremacy type characters THINK! my friend THINK! tHey created Talibans, they will use them, dispose them and do whatever what they want with them

Brother you are confusing me.. firstly u asked which Taliban i m talking about... then you gave a judgement on Talibani afghans... :S on which Taliban you gave the judgement.??

Secondly Prophet (SAW) letter are not a peace pact.. you forget Prophet (SAW) was here to spread the message of Allah.. i dont know what point you were trying to make from this.. a peace pact by the invader is only asked for when it sees a standstill... if the invader is so much peace loving then why the invader attacked on the first place..???

Health Reform bill connection with this thread is out of my small mind..

In the end the character & honest of your American lord can be seen here...

http://whatreallyhappened.wikia.com/..._Laden_to_9/11

On June 5, 2006, author Ed Haas contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation headquarters to ask why, while claiming that bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 1998 bombings of US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, the poster does not indicate that he is wanted in connection with the events of 9/11.
Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI responded, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” Asked to explain the process, Tomb responded, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.

Lastly no where i have read that Americans created Taliban.. rather its Pakistan who created them.. yes Americans created Al-qaeda.. so no denying in it.. But Al-Qaeda & Talibans are different...Anyway i dont want to waste too much time on net discussion.. you can continue believing in ur argument cuz i find too many inaccuracies in it.. and i dont find a reason to continue banging my small head...

[PakiPatriot]

For those who want to hear something against their biases..

Every War Starts With A False Flag

[Sycosinner]

@Patriotic paki Brother no need of getting confused my judgement is still clear, when i say talibans i mean all the talibans. But FYI, there are many factions within the talibans for e.g (there is TTP, and then are talibans who belong to different war lords) So when afghanistan is not under invasion, then these war lords fight each other over territory and poppy harvest which produces heroin.

You totaly missed on my second point! There was a letter written by the Byzantine pope to the prophet, because he was under this fear that the muslims will come invade and force them to convert to Islam. So based on those reservations he wrote a letter to the prophet (PBUH) Keep in mind this was the later years of hijrat to medina and muslim conquests were on the rise. Upon which the propeht replied, no harm or conquest will take place in your city, in addition he said we take responsibility of your protection, if any foreign power tries to invade you, we will defend you. SO my point was we were in power and we were still making agreements and pacts with the weaker counter parts. Hope that clears the confusion.
Mere bhai, health reform, bin laden these are all related to your foreign policies, they win popular votes, which wins you elections, which in a bigger picture lends you more support and money to continue and extend your war in foreign lands. If you try to connect dots, you will easily get the bigger picture.

yahaan to behas hi khattam hojati hai, yeh wohi baat kardi khusraan dai ghar bacha jammiya, unno chum chum kar maar chaddiya! If you are unaware of the fact that talibans were created by the help of CIA, then my friend there is no point of arguing here. Talibans were created way before Alqaida, through pakistan with the help of CIA. they poured the money, aid and arsenal. Please do some reserach

LOL! jesse ventura! are you seriously kidding me? he is a clown! iski aukaat yahaan utni hi hai jitni ZAID HAMID, ya Hasan Nisar ki, no one takes him seriously! if you want to post something, please post something credible and worth watching. Agar yeh itna hi important hota, then he would be running for the President now.

Lastly, I did not understand your remark (In the end the character & honest of your American lord can be seen here...) Are you implying that i am shoving american interest down this forum's throat? If that is so, then my friend once again you are wrong, I love proving people wrong! I am up for any debate

[Islam4globe]

US Soldier Funeral.


janaza zara dhoom sa niklay....lolz.

[Islam4globe]

A landmine blew large NATO logistical vehicle with a container at 05:00 pm today More detail at http://shahamat-english.com pic.twitter.com/FeF4YMA5

[Islam4globe]

@Paki Patriot Historicaly you are weak my friend! even 10 years past Hijrah, Prophet was inviting rulers around the world, to submit to ALLAH.
Peace

For those who want to hear something against their biases..

Every War Starts With A False Flag

@Patriotic paki Brother no need of getting confused my judgement is still clear, when i say talibans i mean all the talibans. But FYI, there are many factions within the talibans for e.g (there is TTP, and then are talibans who belong to different war lords) So when afghanistan is not under invasion, then these war lords fight each other over territory and poppy harvest which produces heroin.
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Janaza zara dhoom sa nikla. But remember it stinks.

[Islam4globe]

Solve the Problem:
How a women in following picture got 5 month pregnant?
By which Father of the following two?

Hint 1: Hidden Father in US.
or
Hint 2: US veteran who came after 1 year from battleground. No vacations etc.

PART 1


PART 2:


(sorry for partially naked picture. Purpose is to show the real face of corrupt KUFFAR)

Kendra Kplan, 5 months pregnant, watches as her husband SSG Joshua Kplan and
fellow US Army soldiers arrive on August 18 2009 in Fort Carson, Colorado.

[Islam4globe]

TALIBS ARE EVERYWHERE.

[Islam4globe]

Cost of War to the United States

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Total Cost of Wars Since 2001
$1,377,887,672,120

costofwar.com still ticking.

[Islam4globe]