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    کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟











    حضرت عبداللہ بن عمر رضی الله سے مروی ہے حضور پاک صل للّہ ھو علیہ وسلم نے ارشاد فرمایا
    " جب تم دیکھو کہ مکہ مکرمہ کا پیٹ چک کر کے
    نہروں کی طرح بنا دیا گیا ہے اور اس کی عمارتیں
    پہاڑ کی چوٹیوں کے برابر ھو گئی ہیں تو جان لو کہ
    معاملہ سر پر آ گیا ہے-
    ** لسان العرب ماد کظم ٢١٤-٢**







    یہ روایت یوسف بن ماھک رضی الله سے مروی ہے کہ :


    "میں حضرت عبداللہ بن عمر رضی الله کے پاس مسجد حرام کے
    ایک کونے میں بیٹھا ہوا تھا کہ آپ نے ایک گھر کی طرف دیکھا
    جو ابو قیس کی پہاڑی سے بلند تھا تو آپ نے کہا کیا تم کو یہ
    ناپسند

    ہے؟ میں نے کہا ہاں! تو انھوں نے فرمایا کہ جب تم دیکھو کے اس

    ** مکہ ** کے گھر مکہ کے پہاڑوں سے بلند ھو گئے ہیں اور اس کے

    پیٹ کو نہروں کی شکل میں چاک کر دیا گیا ہے تو معاملہ سر پر آ

    گیا ہے-

    ** اخبار مکہ لل زرقبی ج ا ص ٢٨٢**










    حضرت عمر بن خطاب رضی الله سے مروی ہے کہ رسول الله صل الله ھو علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا
    "**ایک زمانہ آے گا کہ** اہل مکہ مکہ مکرمہ سے نکل جائیں گے،
    پھر کچھ عرصہ بعد مکہ پھر آباد ھو جاتے گا، اور اس میں بڑی
    بڑی عمارتیں بنائی جائیں گی پھر کچھ دنوں بعد لوگ مکہ سے نکل
    جائیں گے یہاں تک کہ پھر کبھی نہیں لوٹیں گے"
    **مسند احمد، کنز العمال ٣٨٤٥٩ ج ١٤ **







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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    بھائی ان لوگوں نے مکہ کا حسن تباہ کردیا ہے

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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    Waqi if one want to see building he can go to other places , this moronic clock tower is esp i hate
    Quote Originally Posted by A.Ali.T View Post
    بھائی ان لوگوں نے مکہ کا حسن تباہ کردیا ہے

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queue Farms View Post
    Waqi if one want to see building he can go to other places , this moronic clock tower is esp i hate
    کم از کم میں اپنے بارے میں کہہ سکتا ہوں کہ جب میں مکہ گیا تھا تو میرا مقصد حج کہ علاوہ یہ تھا کہ میں اس ماحول کو محسوس کرسکوں جس میں رسول الله نے زندگی گزاری تھی - ان گلیوں میں گھوم سکون جہاں سے رسول الله گزرے تھے اس زمین پر چل سکون جہاں کبھی رسول الله کے مبارک قدم پڑے تھے مگر افسوس کے جب وہاں گیے تو کہیں پیزا ہٹ تو کہیں کے ایف سی تو کہیں سٹاربکس - یہ تمام چیزیں تو آپکو دنیا میں ہر جگہ مل سکتی ہیں - ہم تو اس طرح کا کھانا کھانا چاہتے تھے جو رسول الله تناول فرمایا کرتے تھے مگر افسوس کے ان لوگوں ہم کو ان تمام احساسات اور محسوسات سے محروم کردیا


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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    I dont know but we have a Saudia expert on our forum ...

    I think he could better respond and tell us the right picture...

    I invite @QaiserMirza for his perfect comments over here...

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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    100% agree


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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    i agree with all you brothers, atleast they should have kept KAABA away from business and its related activities, its all about making money.

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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    Quote Originally Posted by A.Ali.T View Post
    کم از کم میں اپنے بارے میں کہہ سکتا ہوں کہ جب میں مکہ گیا تھا تو میرا مقصد حج کہ علاوہ یہ تھا کہ میں اس ماحول کو محسوس کرسکوں جس میں رسول الله نے زندگی گزاری تھی - ان گلیوں میں گھوم سکون جہاں سے رسول الله گزرے تھے اس زمین پر چل سکون جہاں کبھی رسول الله کے مبارک قدم پڑے تھے مگر افسوس کے جب وہاں گیے تو کہیں پیزا ہٹ تو کہیں کے ایف سی تو کہیں سٹاربکس - یہ تمام چیزیں تو آپکو دنیا میں ہر جگہ مل سکتی ہیں - ہم تو اس طرح کا کھانا کھانا چاہتے تھے جو رسول الله تناول فرمایا کرتے تھے مگر افسوس کے ان لوگوں ہم کو ان تمام احساسات اور محسوسات سے محروم کردیا


    With out the feeling of Rasool Allah's life and pattern , we r incomplete...Muslim

    But these stupid people, they dont know the importance of Rasool...

    For which Allah Tala said by himself

    لَقَدْ جَاءَكُمْ رَسُولٌ مِّنْ أَنفُسِكُمْ عَزِيزٌ عَلَيْهِ مَا عَنِتُّمْ حَرِيصٌ عَلَيْكُم بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ رَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ ﴿١٢٨﴾


    (لوگو) تمہارے پاس تم ہی میں سے ایک پیغمبر آئے ہیں۔ تمہاری تکلیف ان کو گراں معلوم ہوتی ہے اور تمہاری بھلائی کے خواہش مند ہیں اور مومنوں پر نہایت شفقت کرنے والے (اور) مہربان ہیں (128)


    I am prety sure now that why they destroy the living signs of Rasool Allah....

    They did this for America , and said to people it is out of deen....

    This is the same case we have that how America is changing our school courses ...they made the Islamit courses in America...

    Same thing whe their father , Abdul Aziz took over as rebellion of Islamic Khilafat , I must be in the orders for America to ruin all the signs of Prophet...and give us oil , we will finish all Islam , and dont worry , we will protect u....

    Kust to reduce the love of prophet Muhammad ...

    These r the pets of America...Though some people r good...
    Last edited by Raaz; 04-Aug-2012 at 04:21 AM.

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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    قیصر مرزا ہی کیوں؟ خود اس پرروشنی ڈالیں. آپ کا علم تو ہمیشہ ٹھاٹیں مارتا ہے اور اکثر آپ علما کرام کی لتاڑ پچھاڑ کرتے پاے جاتے ہیں یہاں بھی اپنے علم و فن کا اظہار فرما دے. کیا مضائقہ ہے.


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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    جب سے یہ عمارتیں بن رہی ہیں مجھے اس وقت سے ہی یہ سب عجیب لگ رہا تھا۔۔۔۔ جب کے مجھے ان حدیث کا بھی نہیں پتہ تھا۔۔۔۔۔۔

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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    معاملہ تو سر پر واقعی پنہچ چکا ھے۔جو حالات ھو رھے ھیں صدیوں سے محلوں میں رھتے ھوے عیاشیوں پر خرچ کرنے کے عالمی ریکارڈ بنانے والے بادشاھوں کا اقتدار اب خطرے میں ھے اور اسی لیے اب کانفرنسیں بھی بلوای جا رھی ھیں لیکن لگتا ھے کہ اب معاملہ واقعی سر پر پنھچ چکا ھے۔

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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    When I first saw this Tower in its skeleton format .. I was scared.. I knew Allah SWT will never be happy.


    Tell me whats the difference between buildings in Las Vegas and this Tower.


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    I think our people have some thing wrong with their minds. What is wrong if new, luxury buildings are made to provide maximum comfort to the visitors. Technology has made humans resourceful and this is being used in the service of people. It has also made the place beautiful. Is good if buildings are like Las Vegas but inside there are no Casinos but comfortable rooms and prayer facilities. Why do not we appreciate what is good and only criticize. There is no doubt that the West has done wonders for humanity, we should be thankful to their contributions in every field. We have done nothing and criticize the most. What a shame.


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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    Quote Originally Posted by frenes View Post
    قیصر مرزا ہی کیوں؟ خود اس پرروشنی ڈالیں. آپ کا علم تو ہمیشہ ٹھاٹیں مارتا ہے اور اکثر آپ علما کرام کی لتاڑ پچھاڑ کرتے پاے جاتے ہیں یہاں بھی اپنے علم و فن کا اظہار فرما دے. کیا مضائقہ ہے.

    I always respect Ulama e Ikram ...but the real one...

    Today every one is called Molana...These r not Molana as well as Alim e deen. Sory to say..

    Our Molana is Allah Tala...

    I said against the political Mullas like Tahir Ul Qardri , Modudi only and only when they r wrong in my thoughts...

    U could answer also ... u have same rights ...and having Quran o hadees.

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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    InshaAllah this year I am going to Hajj with my parents. When I started researching about it, I was appalled. Hajj when everyone wears the same simple dress symbolizes equality be rich and poor elite and the masses. But you can pay your way to a luxury hajj. I felt appalled at seeing the marketing pictures of hotels. Seemed surreal as if the whole purpose of Hajj is compromised. May Allah accept my Hajj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfarooqi View Post
    InshaAllah this year I am going to Hajj with my parents. When I started researching about it, I was appalled. Hajj when everyone wears the same simple dress symbolizes equality be rich and poor elite and the masses. But you can pay your way to a luxury hajj. I felt appalled at seeing the marketing pictures of hotels. Seemed surreal as if the whole purpose of Hajj is compromised. May Allah accept my Hajj.
    Pls appreciate the good work done to make the Hajj as pleasant as possible. Hajj is not supposed to be a punishment and sufferance. We are not rewarded more if we burden ourselves physically and mentally with real and imagined sufferance during Hajj. Being closer to profit and Allah in Mekkah should be as pleasant and as comfortable as possible and that is what has been done. Why the good efforts are not appreciated?????????? What is wrong with our psychology??????????


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    Quote Originally Posted by romeojuliet View Post
    Pls appreciate the good work done to make the Hajj as pleasant as possible. Hajj is not supposed to be a punishment and sufferance. We are not rewarded more if we burden ourselves physically and mentally with real and imagined sufferance during Hajj. Being closer to profit and Allah in Mekkah should be as pleasant and as comfortable as possible and that is what has been done. Why the good efforts are not appreciated?????????? What is wrong with our psychology??????????
    I understand what you are saying. It is one thing to make the hajj more bearable, but providing five star comfort making it feel like you are on a pleasure trip is not needed. I don't think that justifies destroying the history and displacing the locals. Hardship of hajj lasts for only few days but the feeling that you take with you lasts for ever and you can cherish that for the rest of your life.

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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    Muamla sar par aa gaya hai se aap ki kia Murad hai ?????

    Kia aap ka Ishara Hazrat Imam Mahdi (AS) ki taraf hai ?????


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    allha hum sub ko maf kere


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    Re: کیا معاملا سر پر آ گیا ہے؟

    Dear All Brother & Sisters,

    As Salam o aliqum

    I was born in Riyadh SaudiArabia and also raised & mostly studied here & now working in saudi as well. There was a time when we use to in our teenage and it was must they we spend 27th of Ramadan in Masid-ul-Haram; it use be a little old style but still all the facilities were around the Masjid.

    And i do remember when we i went abroad for higher studies and came back and started a job it was around 4~6 years lately when i performed umrah and in 2009 i started my first job in august and after some weeks ramadan started so decided to perform umrah on 27th Ramdan and taken flight from Riyadh~Jeddah and i was unaware of the changes were in progress and some were already such as Kingabdulaziz hotel; i went there i was fully backed with the crowd and every single place construction were happeining it was 8 or 8.30pm and i tried several ways to enter inside haram but due to rush i couldn't and i had to wait until taraweeh gets finished i performed umrah and prayers of night.

    But next morning i have to catch a flight from jeddah~Riyadh i got taxi and went back to jeddah airport and came back to riyadh; while i was in taxi from makkah to jeddah i was continuously thinking about the changes made to makkah but as we are human we also forgets and then i get to know about "Youm al Qiyamah Sign" Arabia will become a land of gardens and rivers. [ it has started, many hotels and big construction projects are being made there, example, Hotel Burj-al-Arab, Hotel infront of Masid Haraam.

    So the conclusion is that what Allah his Prophet Muhammad SAW said is true and no 1 will be able to stop it except Allah; so these are the signs which states Day of judgement is near so be prepared
    Last edited by simple_and_peacefull; 04-Aug-2012 at 07:25 AM. Reason: correction of Holy Prophet(PBUH)'s name

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