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    Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations


    Dear Admin,

    I am a supporter of MQM.

    I see that there are some common misconceptions/deceptions/allegations against MQM and they appear again and again and again.

    Now question is if we have to answer these allegations again and again in Full for nth time?

    Or is it better you provide us a Sub page under Siasi Discussion, where every Party supporters introduce their Parties and also answer the common Misconceptions and allegations against them. This will reduce the repetition of old allegations again and again.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    And those who oppose can troll

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    sisat.pk has a domain pakistani . not .karachi. There should not be a sub domain of this page and there should not be a NO GO areas as we have in Karachi.. . We have all pakhtoons, punjabi, sindhi, balochi and urdu speakers under one flag.

    We dont want to see another Dilawar here like @woofer of MQM has been threatening one of our fellow here. We do not want a fascist party here.

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Brilliant Idea!....

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    @mehwish_ali @aijazahmed bhai owns this group on MQM you can use this, or if you want we can also allow you to create one.

    http://www.siasat.pk/forum/group.php?groupid=13
    TRUTH is TRUTH even if no one believes it, A LIE is a LIE even if every one believes it.

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by Queue Farms View Post
    And those who oppose can troll
    The idea is this that only supporters of that party are allowed to introduce their respective parties and answer the most common issues .... and also to post the policies of their parties how to tackle the political, social, economical problems that are faced by Pakistan at moment.

    There should be no trolling as opponents are not allowed to post there.

    Only Mods will have the right to delete any thing which goes against the Forum Rules.


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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by Waseem View Post
    @mehwish_ali @aijazahmed bhai owns this group on MQM you can use this, or if you want we can also allow you to create one.

    http://www.siasat.pk/forum/group.php?groupid=13
    Thanks.

    It's a Good suggestion.

    But still few things to add.

    1. I don't think I have the ownership of this group as I am unable to move the posts or delete or edit them.

    2. Still, I would like to suggest to place such GROUPs of all Parties under the Siasi Discussion Section.

    Reason is as under:

    - These Groups don't have enough advertisement or prominent enough place at moment.

    - Due to lack of this, you could see that all such groups have almost died and no one is posting there or reading them.

    Therefore, in order to make these Groups active, the best way is to place them as sub-section of the Siasi Section.


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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    @Adeel @Waseem I think I had proposed this idea a while ago when I mentioned the "thread hijackers" that this trolling is making a mockery of this website siasat.pk There are few threads opened to appreciate Imran Khan how he is sleeping, eating, praying and I have no problem but isn't it personal stuff. On the other hand, there are MQM bashing threads and I don't have any problem but in all these threads the actual siasat.pk discussion is left behind. I think it would be a good idea to give some of these members an area of gupshup chit-chat area where they can bash or appreciate whatever they like keeping it separate from the real discussions. If not then create a sticky thread called MQM Bashing thread and Imran Appreciation thread and just merge all these threads in their respective threads.
    @mrk123 @Salik @indigo @moazzamniaz

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by mehwish_ali View Post
    Thanks.

    It's a Good suggestion.

    But still few things to add.

    1. I don't think I have the ownership of this group as I am unable to move the posts or delete or edit them.

    2. Still, I would like to suggest to place such GROUPs of all Parties under the Siasi Discussion Section.

    Reason is as under:

    - These Groups don't have enough advertisement or prominent enough place at moment.

    - Due to lack of this, you could see that all such groups have almost died and no one is posting there or reading them.

    Therefore, in order to make these Groups active, the best way is to place them as sub-section of the Siasi Section.
    01. Not a big issue, If you wish we can give you access right now.

    02. Yes, you are right these groups are hidden, and I'm sure many new members must not be aware of it. I am not sure if we can do it but if some how we can place these groups on home page (like we have a small widget on blogs) it will get a good place for them. I will talk to admin about it, lets see if we could do it or not.
    TRUTH is TRUTH even if no one believes it, A LIE is a LIE even if every one believes it.


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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by United4Pak View Post
    @Adeel @Waseem I think I had proposed this idea a while ago when I mentioned the "thread hijackers" that this trolling is making a mockery of this website siasat.pk There are few threads opened to appreciate Imran Khan how he is sleeping, eating, praying and I have no problem but isn't it personal stuff. On the other hand, there are MQM bashing threads and I don't have any problem but in all these threads the actual siasat.pk discussion is left behind. I think it would be a good idea to give some of these members an area of gupshup chit-chat area where they can bash or appreciate whatever they like keeping it separate from the real discussions. If not then create a sticky thread called MQM Bashing thread and Imran Appreciation thread and just merge all these threads in their respective threads.
    @mrk123 @Salik @indigo @moazzamniaz
    How about this groups, group owner or his appointed members will be doing moderation in the group?
    TRUTH is TRUTH even if no one believes it, A LIE is a LIE even if every one believes it.

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    But this option should be only for political parties . not for MQM terrorists.

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    My suggestion is that ban MQM supporters on this website . we don't want these terrorists here.

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    I also want a group page on siasat.pk and my party name is "Anti MQM Party"

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    آپ کراچی میں بار بار ہونے والے قتل کو بند کروادیں
    الزامات بھی بار بار نہیں لگیںگے

    آپ تھوڑی محنت متحدہ، اے این پی اور امن کمیٹی پر کرلیں
    انہی کو سمجھادیں مہربانی ہوگی
    نہیں سمجھتے حکومت چھوڑدیں تو بھی الزامات نہیں لگیںگے
    میری گارنٹی ہے


    اور ہاں الطاف حسین کو پاکستان بلا لیں دیکھیں الزامات ختم ہوجائیںگے

    کچھ تو کریں
    الگ پیج کھولنے سے کیا قتل بند ہوجائیںگے؟؟؟

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by Waseem View Post
    How about this groups, group owner or his appointed members will be doing moderation in the group?
    I don't know how these groups work and it could be possible every party supporter would want a group and having them on main page will be too much. Why not have separate sections like light hearted section and a proper siasat section and moderator job is just to transfer these threads if someone opened an appreciation thread to lighthearted section and vice versa. If someone tries trolling in siasat section then he can be asked to go to appropriate section.

    These are just my ideas but whatever you think can improve this situation will get thumbs up from me.


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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by such bolo View Post
    آپ کراچی میں بار بار ہونے والے قتل کو بند کروادیں
    الزامات بھی بار بار نہیں لگیںگے

    آپ تھوڑی محنت متحدہ، اے این پی اور امن کمیٹی پر کرلیں
    انہی کو سمجھادیں مہربانی ہوگی
    نہیں سمجھتے حکومت چھوڑدیں تو بھی الزامات نہیں لگیںگے
    میری گارنٹی ہے


    اور ہاں الطاف حسین کو پاکستان بلا لیں دیکھیں الزامات ختم ہوجائیںگے

    کچھ تو کریں
    الگ پیج کھولنے سے کیا قتل بند ہوجائیںگے؟؟؟
    Agar koi khabar ho to zaroor DISCUSS honi chahiye lekin Altaf Hussain kA London jana sirf ek khabar hai usko sirf ek jaga discuss hona chahiye chahay jo bhee argument ho. Doosron baat zaatiyat aur trolling bhee nahi honi chahiye


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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by United4Pak View Post
    @Adeel @Waseem I think I had proposed this idea a while ago when I mentioned the "thread hijackers" that this trolling is making a mockery of this website siasat.pk There are few threads opened to appreciate Imran Khan how he is sleeping, eating, praying and I have no problem but isn't it personal stuff. On the other hand, there are MQM bashing threads and I don't have any problem but in all these threads the actual siasat.pk discussion is left behind. I think it would be a good idea to give some of these members an area of gupshup chit-chat area where they can bash or appreciate whatever they like keeping it separate from the real discussions. If not then create a sticky thread called MQM Bashing thread and Imran Appreciation thread and just merge all these threads in their respective threads.
    @mrk123 @Salik @indigo @moazzamniaz
    There are very rare cases of an MQM supporter opening up a thread appreciating their leader. Normally instead of opening a thread in favor of ALTAF HUSEIN they normally rely on oepning against PTI or N league.
    who has stopped you from opening a thread in favor of Altaf...but the fact is that even you know his reality. Therefore, you just rely on criticizing others.
    Last edited by such bolo; 17-Jul-2012 at 06:04 PM.

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by United4Pak View Post
    Agar koi khabar ho to zaroor DISCUSS honi chahiye lekin Altaf Hussain kA London jana sirf ek khabar hai usko sirf ek jaga discuss hona chahiye chahay jo bhee argument ho. Doosron baat zaatiyat aur trolling bhee nahi honi chahiye

    یہ تو عجیب بات ہوئی کہ الطاف حسین کے باہر رہنے والی بات صرف ایک جگہ ہونی چاہیے
    بھائی جب متحدہ کی بات ہوگی تو ساری باتیں ہونگی

    کیوں کہ باتیں کسی نا کسی خبر کے آنے کا بعد ہی عموما شروع ہوتی ہیں
    خبر آتے ہی تنقید یا تعریف
    برداشت تو کرنا پڑیگا


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    Quote Originally Posted by such bolo View Post

    یہ تو عجیب بات ہوئی کہ الطاف حسین کے باہر رہنے والی بات صرف ایک جگہ ہونی چاہیے
    بھائی جب متحدہ کی بات ہوگی تو ساری باتیں ہونگی

    کیوں کہ باتیں کسی نا کسی خبر کے آنے کا بعد ہی عموما شروع ہوتی ہیں
    خبر آتے ہی تنقید یا تعریف
    برداشت تو کرنا پڑیگا
    Bhai agar ek khabar "Imran khan ne tsunami march mein hissa kyun nahi liya" per char threads open ho jayen to kaisa lagay ga ya phir har do mahinay baad ek thread khul jaye to kaisa lagay ga

    qqed karna har ek kA Haq hai lekin Kissi ko uskay political affiliation ki Bunyan par gaaliyan dena ya ghair Muslim ya Pak dushman ke certificate dena ghalat hai. Kyun ke kal tak jo mujahideen thay ah Wo terrorist thehray.
    Last edited by United4Pak; 17-Jul-2012 at 06:39 PM.

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    Re: Parties sub-pages under Siasi Discussions, where they introduce themselves + Answer the common Allegations

    Quote Originally Posted by United4Pak View Post
    Bhai agar ek khabar "Imran khan ne tsunami march mein hissa kyun nahi liya" per char threads open ho jayen to kaisa lagay ga ya phir har do mahinay baad ek thread khul jaye to kaisa lagay ga

    qqed karna har ek kA Haq hai lekin Kissi ko uskay political affiliation ki Bunyan par gaaliyan dena ya ghair Muslim ya Pak dushman ke certificate dena ghalat hai. Kyun ke kal tak jo mujahideen thay ah Wo terrorist thehray.
    بھائی بات درست ہے
    ایک ہی موضوع پر بار بار تھریڈ نہیں کھولنا چاہیے

    مگر ایک ہی شخصیت یا جماعت کے بارے میں کسی بھی نئی خبر یا انفارمیشن پر تھریڈ کا کھولنا
    اور پھر اس تھریڈ میں لوگوں کا اپنے اپنے حساب سے تنقید یا تعریف کرنے میں کوئی قباحت نہیں
    اس تنقید یا تعریف میں پرانی باتیں دہرائی بھی جائینگی

    اگر تو ایک ہی خبر پر بار بار تھریڈ کھل رہا ہے تو آپ نشاندھی کریں
    میرے خیال میں ایڈمن بھی اسکا خیال رکھتے ہیں


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